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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 17:14:17 GMT
I’m sorry if I caused any drama and about today. I didn’t mean to I just wanted to have fun and enjoy BF and DW. Sometimes I feel like the forum weirdo for my interests. I’m sorry if my shipping ever made anyone uncomfortable. I just want to be myself and express my interests. I didn’t mean to I just am enthusiastic and wanted to have fun. 12 and Clara make me happy so I talk a lot about them. I never wanted today to cause a war or chase anyone out. I am going to take a very long break from the forum after today as it has become unhealthy and stressful for me. Please accept my apology and take care.
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Oct 14, 2021 18:57:53 GMT
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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 18:57:53 GMT
I hope you don’t all hate me.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 14, 2021 19:24:16 GMT
I hope you don’t all hate me. I never have, and I don't think really, anyone does. If nothing else before you go, don't carry this event on your shoulders: things spiral out for nonsensical reasons in life and nobody can control that. Clearly, there was more going on here than your own posts and, I hope, will serve as a moment of reflection and learning for the DU. It's not your fault and don't carry that guilt with you - your passion and energy is something to celebrate and relish.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 19:28:37 GMT
I hope you don’t all hate me. I never have, and I don't think really, anyone does. If nothing else before you go, don't carry this event on your shoulders: things spiral out for nonsensical reasons in life and nobody can control that. Clearly, there was more going on here than your own posts and, I hope, will serve as a moment of reflection and learning for the DU. It's not your fault and don't carry that guilt with you - your passion and energy is something to celebrate and relish. Thanks 😊 that means a lot. I have felt so horrible and guilty all day.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 14, 2021 19:39:37 GMT
I never have, and I don't think really, anyone does. If nothing else before you go, don't carry this event on your shoulders: things spiral out for nonsensical reasons in life and nobody can control that. Clearly, there was more going on here than your own posts and, I hope, will serve as a moment of reflection and learning for the DU. It's not your fault and don't carry that guilt with you - your passion and energy is something to celebrate and relish. Thanks 😊 that means a lot. I have felt so horrible and guilty all day. Do what you have to to relax and clear your head. Treat yourself.
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Oct 14, 2021 19:40:48 GMT
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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 19:40:48 GMT
Thanks 😊 that means a lot. I have felt so horrible and guilty all day. Do what you have to to relax and clear your head. Treat yourself. Thanks 😊
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 14, 2021 19:45:50 GMT
I repeat this again, we are all weird here. And I like it that way. And stop apologizing. OWN IT.
No idea what happened here today. I have a hell of a time at work at the moment, and I honestly only come here at the moment to relax and check up on my friends. that is you, by the way. And everybody else.
But today somehow the droppings hit the ventilation implement.
I have no idea why everybody everywhere around me right now over-reacts in such a way. I barely keep the kindergarten drama queens at work in check, had another drama again today, additional to 10 hours of gruelling work.
Honestly, I did not see any of the post neither from you, nor the others, as overly offensive or drama worthy. Yes, of course one can feel hurt when discussions get heated, and I understand that.
What I certainly do not understand how this escalated so much. Everybody on here usually behaves civilized, so I was shocked. And I just cannot get my mind around it.
But maybe my mind is just numbed by all the kindergarten drama at work that I miss all the nuances on here.
I really hope everybody is now taking a deep breath and shakes hands again. Because all of you are my friends, and I would hate if I lost any more of you just because of some kindergarten drama going on. This is just totally out of character and unexpected from several people.
So yeah, basically proves the point that EVERYBODY is VERY weird here and nobody needs to single out anyone else.
In any case, if someone needs someone to vent or shout at, I am well practiced and offer up myself.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 19:50:12 GMT
I repeat this again, we are all weird here. And I like it that way. And stop apologizing. OWN IT. No idea what happened here today. I have a hell of a time at work at the moment, and I honestly only come here at the moment to relax and check up on my friends. that is you, by the way. And everybody else. But today somehow the droppings hit the ventilation implement. I have no idea why everybody everywhere around me right now over-reacts in such a way. I barely keep the kindergarten drama queens at work in check, had another drama again today, additional to 10 hours of gruelling work. Honestly, I did not see any of the post neither from you, nor the others, as overly offensive or drama worthy. Yes, of course one can feel hurt when discussions get heated, and I understand that. What I certainly do not understand how this escalated so much. Everybody on here usually behaves civilized, so I was shocked. And I just cannot get my mind around it. But maybe my mind is just numbed by all the kindergarten drama at work that I miss all the nuances on here. I really hope everybody is now taking a deep breath and shakes hands again. Because all of you are my friends, and I would hate if I lost any more of you just because of some kindergarten drama going on. This is just totally out of character and unexpected from several people. So yeah, basically proves the point that EVERYBODY is VERY weird here and nobody needs to single out anyone else. In any case, if someone needs someone to vent or shout at, I am well practiced and offer up myself. Thanks I needed that
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 14, 2021 22:39:45 GMT
You aren’t mean or dismissive of others. Your replies to comments and participation in discussion is respectful and honest and given in good faith. Like all of us here, you do have your own unique idiosyncrasies. However, they aren’t hurting anyone. There is nothing to be sorry for.
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Oct 14, 2021 22:52:32 GMT
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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 22:52:32 GMT
You aren’t mean or dismissive of others. Your replies to comments and participation in discussion is respectful and honest and given in good faith. Like all of us here, you do have your own unique idiosyncrasies. However, they aren’t hurting anyone. There is nothing to be sorry for. Thanks 😊 I just felt bad about everything today and because I was told I annoyed people with my love of 12 and Clara and that people were messaging the moderators for me to tone it down that I talk about them too much . I don’t want to feel like I can’t be myself here. I only talk about them because they make me happy. No one else gets given a hard time about mentioning their interests/favorite characters on more than one thread. I don’t want to be a bad annoying forum member but it does make me feel othered a bit.
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Post by x2magneto on Oct 14, 2021 23:32:13 GMT
You aren’t mean or dismissive of others. Your replies to comments and participation in discussion is respectful and honest and given in good faith. Like all of us here, you do have your own unique idiosyncrasies. However, they aren’t hurting anyone. There is nothing to be sorry for. This. If you were disrespectful or stepping on somebody to be heard, I'd turn my tissue compression eliminator on you. Everyone has the right to have the relationship with the material that they see fit. We would all do well to remember that.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 14, 2021 23:43:25 GMT
You aren’t mean or dismissive of others. Your replies to comments and participation in discussion is respectful and honest and given in good faith. Like all of us here, you do have your own unique idiosyncrasies. However, they aren’t hurting anyone. There is nothing to be sorry for. This. If you were disrespectful or stepping on somebody to be heard, I'd turn my tissue compression eliminator on you. Everyone has the right to have the relationship with the material that they see fit. We would all do well to remember that. Thanks for lightening the mood😄
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Oct 15, 2021 1:01:02 GMT
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Post by timegirl on Oct 15, 2021 1:01:02 GMT
I’m going to take a very long break now. I’m sorry if I annoy people. Maybe I just don’t belong here. Thanks to everyone who does support me. Goodbye and take care.
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Post by constonks on Oct 15, 2021 2:03:19 GMT
I hope you don’t all hate me. Oh, no, not at all! D: You're a valued member of this community and I personally really enjoy your posts!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 6:31:03 GMT
Please don't go, I love reading your contributions, they're one of the main reasons I come here. I'm not really clear on what happened yesterday, as I wasn't online much, but I really really hope you come back. Online forums are never a great place for expressing opinions, and hopefully anyone who has hurt your feelings was only trying to express theirs, not to actually belittle you or make you feel unwelcome. I can't believe anyone could be so mean.
It makes me so sad to think you might not actually read this - please, please, do not go.
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 15, 2021 6:40:09 GMT
I’m going to take a very long break now. I’m sorry if I annoy people. Maybe I just don’t belong here. Thanks to everyone who does support me. Goodbye and take care. You need to stop this Timegirl, you done nothing wrong, the worlds full of drama & conflict your going experience situations that you won't like the trick is to rise above it & stand up for yourself, trust me running away doesn't fix the issue sometimes you need to faces your fears, this year been my year of hell losing my father & developing Type 2 diabetes, there have been many struggles which i haven't wanted to face & issues i haven't wanted to deal with but i had kick myself out of bed sometimes crying & try & battle on. if I'd stopped posting on here & other forums everytime someone had a go at me I'd never post on anything, we all have opinions on topics and ok disagree with each other as long as we remain respectful, i used get vile posts on my movie reviews but didn't stop me reviewing i just eventually got bored of reviewing. Your a valid member of the forum but you do need to stick up for yourself & stop apologising as you done nothing wrong.
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 15, 2021 6:42:24 GMT
I repeat this again, we are all weird here. And I like it that way. And stop apologizing. OWN IT. No idea what happened here today. I have a hell of a time at work at the moment, and I honestly only come here at the moment to relax and check up on my friends. that is you, by the way. And everybody else. But today somehow the droppings hit the ventilation implement. I have no idea why everybody everywhere around me right now over-reacts in such a way. I barely keep the kindergarten drama queens at work in check, had another drama again today, additional to 10 hours of gruelling work. Honestly, I did not see any of the post neither from you, nor the others, as overly offensive or drama worthy. Yes, of course one can feel hurt when discussions get heated, and I understand that. What I certainly do not understand how this escalated so much. Everybody on here usually behaves civilized, so I was shocked. And I just cannot get my mind around it. But maybe my mind is just numbed by all the kindergarten drama at work that I miss all the nuances on here. I really hope everybody is now taking a deep breath and shakes hands again. Because all of you are my friends, and I would hate if I lost any more of you just because of some kindergarten drama going on. This is just totally out of character and unexpected from several people. So yeah, basically proves the point that EVERYBODY is VERY weird here and nobody needs to single out anyone else. In any case, if someone needs someone to vent or shout at, I am well practiced and offer up myself. Brilliantly put, your comment has me tingling like a ASMR video.
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Post by Ela on Oct 17, 2021 1:20:19 GMT
I feel a moderator response is needed here. I hope everyone, including timegirl , will read all of it carefully before responding or jumping to conclusions. I agree and the moderators agree that timegirl has nothing to apologize for. I’m not sure why she feels guilty or feels she has to apologize when someone disagrees with her about something and or when someone jumps to her defense. The person who needs to apologize here, actually, is barnabaslives . His posts aimed at Davy on Thursday were frankly over the top, rude, and uncalled for. For that, he has earned himself a temporary ban from the forum. Davy was not picking on timegirl, bullying her, or trolling. Davy was and has been expressing a difference of opinion with timegirl about the relationship between Clara and 12. He is not the only one to have that difference of opinion, but he is one of the only ones to publicly express his opinion. Others have contacted us privately to remark about the frequency of timegirl’s posts on the topic. But most on this forum have refrained from entering into discussion about it with timegirl publicly on the forum or have just scrolled by her posts about it altogether, because any attempt to offer a different opinion results in a series of responses from timegirl that end up in her feeling hurt and picked on, and feeling she has to take a break from the forum. And no one is trying to deliberately hurt timegirl’s feelings or pick on her. This has been explained to her privately. I'd like to say that disagreeing with someone on an open forum is not the same as bullying, gaslighting, or picking on someone. If you post on a forum, you have to accept that people will disagree, and that people will respond if you constantly try to prove they are wrong, as she does, by continuing to offer evidence supporting her ideas. It's great to have an opinion, but it's also good to gracefully accept that others may have a different opinion. That's the way it goes on a forum. Since we have heard from a number of people who feel a bit overwhelmed by timegirl’s posts about the Clara-12 relationship in every thread, we contacted timegirl privately to ask her to consider limiting her conjectures about Clara-12 shipping to one or two dedicated threads, and to ask her if she could limit fan picture posts to one thread in the forum where most folks post their fan pictures or fan art, in the " General" section of The Writers and Creatives Room board. We moderators were already discussing how to gently approach her on this topic when Thursday's kerfuffle broke out. timegirl apparently decided to take another break from the forum after the last PM on the topic was sent to her, I don't know if her decision was a direct result of that conversation, as she hasn't indicated that to us one way or the other. I do hope she will consider our request regarding her posts about Clara-12 and that she will come back to the forum when she feels ready. She’s certainly entitled to post her ideas, but when it’s in every thread, it starts to stray into soap boxing, which is one of the topics dealt with in the forum rules.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 12:46:47 GMT
I feel a moderator response is needed here. I hope everyone, including timegirl , will read all of it carefully before responding or jumping to conclusions. I agree and the moderators agree that timegirl has nothing to apologize for. I’m not sure why she feels guilty or feels she has to apologize when someone disagrees with her about something and or when someone jumps to her defense. The person who needs to apologize here, actually, is barnabaslives . His posts aimed at Davy on Thursday were frankly over the top, rude, and uncalled for. For that, he has earned himself a temporary ban from the forum. Davy was not picking on timegirl, bullying her, or trolling. Davy was and has been expressing a difference of opinion with timegirl about the relationship between Clara and 12. He is not the only one to have that difference of opinion, but he is one of the only ones to publicly express his opinion. Others have contacted us privately to remark about the frequency of timegirl’s posts on the topic. But most on this forum have refrained from entering into discussion about it with timegirl publicly on the forum or have just scrolled by her posts about it altogether, because any attempt to offer a different opinion results in a series of responses from timegirl that end up in her feeling hurt and picked on, and feeling she has to take a break from the forum. And no one is trying to deliberately hurt timegirl’s feelings or pick on her. This has been explained to her privately. I'd like to say that disagreeing with someone on an open forum is not the same as bullying, gaslighting, or picking on someone. If you post on a forum, you have to accept that people will disagree, and that people will respond if you constantly try to prove they are wrong, as she does, by continuing to offer evidence supporting her ideas. It's great to have an opinion, but it's also good to gracefully accept that others may have a different opinion. That's the way it goes on a forum. Since we have heard from a number of people who feel a bit overwhelmed by timegirl’s posts about the Clara-12 relationship in every thread, we contacted timegirl privately to ask her to consider limiting her conjectures about Clara-12 shipping to one or two dedicated threads, and to ask her if she could limit fan picture posts to one thread in the forum where most folks post their fan pictures or fan art, in the " General" section of The Writers and Creatives Room board. We moderators were already discussing how to gently approach her on this topic when Thursday's kerfuffle broke out. timegirl apparently decided to take another break from the forum after the last PM on the topic was sent to her, I don't know if her decision was a direct result of that conversation, as she hasn't indicated that to us one way or the other. I do hope she will consider our request regarding her posts about Clara-12 and that she will come back to the forum when she feels ready. She’s certainly entitled to post her ideas, but when it’s in every thread, it starts to stray into soap boxing, which is one of the topics dealt with in the forum rules. OK, I've read all of it, and I'm not comfortable. I don't think it's particularly appropriate for everyone to see what discussions have been held privately with moderators, and I'm not especially enamoured of the way it sounds those dealings between the moderators and timegirl were going. On which note, after six years, I'm out.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 17, 2021 13:04:21 GMT
I feel a moderator response is needed here. I hope everyone, including timegirl , will read all of it carefully before responding or jumping to conclusions. So, I'll be reaching out over PM (and I suggest anyone else who feels this way too, as I don't want this thread to go south and it's best to sort matters privately) because I do have some misgivings about this response, however well intended it was.
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