Post by sherlock on Apr 4, 2020 15:22:26 GMT

Apr 4, 2020 15:05:34 GMT md said:
Hey guys,I’m new to this forum and have been working on River Songs Timeline myself for like ten years haha! So have lots of input in this (I swear I’ve revisited it a crazy number of times)
Just working on a complete one with everything myself at the moment. Most of my main timeline is similar to what is discussed on here with a few key changes though, thought I’d like to ask some opinions and just splatter gun my ten years worth of problems:
1. Regarding vortex manipulators:
Either she has only one in which case all vortex is post Pandorica or she has multiple
Problem with the former is that Pandorica river is already portrayed with a battered diary, she seems older and references good man goes to war before she leaves. Yet good man goes to war and in fact most river stories (second first/last night river, day of the moon) contain a vortex manipulator so we would have very few stories in between her first night and the Pandorica despite her diary being so warn and her seeming so much older and being understanding of a younger doctor not knowing her well.
Problem with the latter is why does she need to get a Pandorica vortex manipulator if she already had one (granted she loses it sometimes later when she is professor), and secondly we have yet to see a younger version get one (though in student bodies it does mention she steals one from the university so this could be a get out here?)
Do you guys stick to the vortex post Pandorica or not? As sticking to this can detract from her reverse order storyline (though this is t perfect I know)
2. In the legend books she is a professor whilst still in Stormcage, yet in the audios TDORS2 she says she becomes a professor after (I have allowed this as her meaning she became an actual teaching professor, which also explains a lot of there later stories involving her archaeology or students)
3. She has a sonic trowel often and sometimes a screwdriver, though also in TDORS2 it is debated what it is she made herself, and in animal instinct it’s a pen torch. Thoughts on this? I feel this gives lee way dependent on interpretation.
4. Given up till day of the moon at least River believe she travels in reverse, so we need that as much as possible where we can (so Rain Gods which has a much older doctor makes sense to have a much younger river and she hasn’t a vortex manipulator, so this should go after first night to deepen the Doctor getting more forgetful part of their story) there is no reason that the restaurant they were going to is darillium as this is just in their early Stormcage date phase where they went to all sorts of places.
(I have all sorts of input but just thought I put a few and see your opinions, can also share my timeline once I’ve dealt with R+J lol (wtf is up with River attacking nine?))
2. Your assumption works. She gained the qualifications to be a professor whilst in prison, but didn’t teach anyone till after being pardoned. A fudge, but hardly the biggest reach in continuity.
3. I think her sonic device is something is something of a work in progress. She bases on it on the screwdriver so initially calls it that, later tries it as a pen torch and eventually settles on a trowel.
4. Rain Gods as an early date works fine. I’ll alter my own timelines with that in mind.
I haven’t heard R & J but what little I’ve gathered about it from the wiki confuses me immensely.