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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 3, 2016 23:36:39 GMT
People liked The Auntie Matter?!?! Each to their own, I found it one of the worst things BF have done Yes in fact Auntie Matter is my favorite 4DA I've heard so far! Justice of Jalaxar is probably in 2nd places I'd go Jalaxar over Autie Matter, which besides having one of the most clever titles EVER, is also a funny version of P.G. Wodehouse as done by Doctor Who.
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Post by Hieronymus on Jan 4, 2016 3:15:24 GMT
People liked The Auntie Matter?!?! Each to their own, I found it one of the worst things BF have done The Wodehouse humor isn't the only appeal of the story, and the humor works precisely because it is not the norm for the 4DAs. In much the same way, The Romans or The Sun Makers succeed with humor in Doctor Who because it is a rare thing, not overdone in the show. But quite apart from that, we didn't have an A plot and a B plot, but had two parallel and intertwined plots of nearly equal weight for two very strong characters. I liked The Auntie Matter because I feel it made the best use of Mary Tamm's character. The whole situation played very well to her portrayal of Romana I as confident and intelligent yet naive and inexperienced. Even the supporting cast gave strong, consistent, and memorable performances. There were no forgettable parts in this story.
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Post by Hieronymus on Jan 4, 2016 3:49:52 GMT
I'm sure plenty of people listening to that will have zero familiarity with Abigail's Party. As an American, I had zero familiarity with Abigail's Party but I'm watching it now and loving it (if "loving" is the right word).
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Post by omega on Jan 4, 2016 4:13:09 GMT
A good story paying homage to something easily stands on it's own regardless of how much the listener knows of the piece being homaged. I know very little about PG Wodehouse and Abigail's Party, but I still enjoy The Auntie Matter and Suburban Hell. I'm sure that familiarity give the homage depth.
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Post by redsharkJason on Jan 4, 2016 7:10:42 GMT
My top 10 favourite Series 1-4 FDA villains: - The Master
- The Crooked Man
- Aunt Florence
- Cuthbert
- Harcourt
- Shandar
- Strang
- Colonel Spindleton
- Morax
- Gregor Saraton
I never tire of listening to Beevers as The Master. Cuthbert fondly reminds me of Lex Luthor and his henchman Mr. Dorrick in correlation reminds me of Otis. Shandar is a likable rogue.
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Post by redsharkJason on Jan 4, 2016 7:13:10 GMT
A good story paying homage to something easily stands on it's own regardless of how much the listener knows of the piece being homaged. I know very little about PG Wodehouse and Abigail's Party, but I still enjoy The Auntie Matter and Suburban Hell. I'm sure that familiarity give the homage depth. Whether we're aware or not of the origins of an author's story, it's still nice for that information to be examined during the retrospective interviews. I appreciate being enlightened about Abigail's Party, just as I appreciate being reminded that Julia McKenzie (Aunt Florence) is commonly known for her work as Miss Marple.
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Post by bobod on Jan 4, 2016 12:05:38 GMT
People liked The Auntie Matter?!?! Each to their own, I found it one of the worst things BF have done It's the best Fourth Doctor story they've done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 12:48:20 GMT
I'm sure plenty of people listening to that will have zero familiarity with Abigail's Party. As an American, I had zero familiarity with Abigail's Party but I'm watching it now and loving it (if "loving" is the right word). It's wonderful, classic comic-drama. I loved that we got a 4th Doctor story lampooning it since Who and Abigail are both quite big cultural peaks of the 70s
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Post by constonks on Jan 4, 2016 13:33:34 GMT
Seems my opinions are fairly popular as my favorite and second favorite are among the most popular.
Requiem and Wrath.
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Post by ljwilson on Jan 4, 2016 21:10:52 GMT
My vote went for The Darkness of Glass - i did enjoy the setting a la Fang Rock, the obscure references and apprecition of a forgotten art (magic lanternists) and the daft 4th doctor humour that is sprinkled throughout, especially when Leela is having a go at him for not listening.
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Post by ljwilson on Jan 13, 2016 10:25:55 GMT
Right then...I'm going to stick up again for Destination: Nerva. It really is a good story if not particularly radical. Captain Jack and his infected band are suitably creepy, and what's not to like about a deadly pathogen that turns the victim in to an infectious jelly?
'How's the weather on Nerva? I expect it's a bit clammy...'
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Post by constonks on Jan 13, 2016 19:47:16 GMT
A good story paying homage to something easily stands on it's own regardless of how much the listener knows of the piece being homaged. I know very little about PG Wodehouse and Abigail's Party, but I still enjoy The Auntie Matter and Suburban Hell. I'm sure that familiarity give the homage depth. I liked both while knowing absolutely nothing about the sources as well. Neither was an absolute favourite but both worked well enough.
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Post by omega on Jan 13, 2016 20:47:34 GMT
Right then...I'm going to stick up again for Destination: Nerva. It really is a good story if not particularly radical. Captain Jack and his infected band are suitably creepy, and what's not to like about a deadly pathogen that turns the victim in to an infectious jelly? 'How's the weather on Nerva? I expect it's a bit clammy...' It was the first regular full cast Fourth Doctor audio, so the exercise in box ticking can be excused. Do the jokes stand up above groan worthy? Nerva. What's harder to excuse is the indulgence in nostalgia three or four years later by Mr Briggs.
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Post by ljwilson on Jan 13, 2016 22:31:44 GMT
I think the nostalgia is as big part of it, and the Doctor's are mostly kept within their era that is remembered from TV.
The recent Early adventures are black & white TV, Tom's are the 70's, and Fifth's are cheesy synth era 80's. I like that.
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Post by lemmingsunday1 on Jan 18, 2016 9:16:04 GMT
My Top Ten -
The Darkness of Glass Night of the Storm Crow The Auntie Matter Energy of the Daleks The Renaissance Man The King of Sontar The Justice of Jalxar White Ghosts Last of the Colophon The Crooked Man
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Post by iank on Apr 16, 2016 23:38:25 GMT
I think the nostalgia is as big part of it, and the Doctor's are mostly kept within their era that is remembered from TV. The recent Early adventures are black & white TV, Tom's are the 70's, and Fifth's are cheesy synth era 80's. I like that. This is true, but the 4th Doctor era on TV is the one with the least reliance on old villains and rehashes, which is a major part of why it's so brilliant. If they're really trying to emulate that, they should be more original!
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Post by iank on Apr 16, 2016 23:43:37 GMT
The only actual 4DA I've heard so far is The Auntie Matter, which I liked very much.
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Post by relativetime on Apr 17, 2016 1:57:20 GMT
I really enjoyed The Darkness of Glass, Last of the Colophon and The Justice of Jalxar. I haven't listened to anything from Series 1, but I fully intend to go back and listen to at least The Wrath of the Iceni someday.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 17, 2016 4:04:00 GMT
I switched my vote to Wrath Of The Iceni. I listened to it again recently and just had to make that change. It's fantastic.
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Post by relativetime on Apr 17, 2016 5:47:37 GMT
I've switched my vote as well, but to The Crooked Man. I just got done re-listening to it and MAN I really loved it!
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