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Post by nitronine on Apr 27, 2022 18:04:19 GMT
And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards! At least it's not another one of those horrible faux-watercolour covers. Looking at the artist's other work I think she's great. But when she's limited to the Big Finish in house style it really doesn't work for me. Wish they'd let their artists be more experiemental like they used to.
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 27, 2022 20:34:06 GMT
And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards! At least it's not another one of those horrible faux-watercolour covers. Its not faux-watercolour it digital art different from often badly photoshopped covers though i agree
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Post by ollychops on Apr 27, 2022 21:27:00 GMT
I'd rather Sylvester had got another go because Harvest of the Sycorax was comfortably the worst story in this range. I couldn't agree with this more. I normally love Goss' stories but this one sorely missed the mark for me because it ended up being a retread of the Sycorax's plan from The Christmas Invasion and did nothing particularly new or interesting with them. I really hope BF bring them back at some point so they can have another crack at doing something more unique with them.
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Post by tuigirl on Apr 27, 2022 22:02:29 GMT
Does Sylvester still have issues recording? If yes, that is an explanation for his rare appearance.
Concerning Colin.... I love him. He is extremely enthusiastic and I think he is the one guy who will say pretty much "yes" to anything BF lays in front of his door. Maybe that is the reason he now is in so many releases and is doing all the weird stuff. He also always gives 100%, even if the script is a letdown, just look at Mind of the Hodiac. Colin is brilliant, even if the story is not. And as sad as it might sound, I am not sure how many more of these releases Colin will be able to do, so I am happy about any new story we get with him.
I am actually looking forward to this release. I liked the previous 2 volumes, and I am curious what these do with these. Plus, we get more of Charley! That alone was an instant pre-order from me.
But I agree, the "new monsters" featured here are a bit.... left field. Very weird choice to be honest.
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Post by dasmaniac on Apr 27, 2022 22:24:45 GMT
I guess I'm gonna be a bit of contrarian here and say that the out of left field nature of this set has me intrigued. It's rather unconventional. I'm also wondering when the first two Doctors will get their chance at meeting a New Series monster. The First Doctor is ripe for a Weeping Angel story. The Angels have long struck me as a monster that is straight out of the First Doctor era.
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Post by Digi on Apr 28, 2022 1:01:43 GMT
Being able to buy individual titles rather than the entire boxset is probably a pipedream, isn't it?
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Post by Kestrel on Apr 28, 2022 3:49:33 GMT
I think Doctor Who stories generally tend to be at their weakest when they're "about the monsters," but I really like the idea of these anthology-style sets where each story has a different protagonist (like the recent Peladon boxset). I found the first two CDNM sets pretty bland overall, but I'm still optimistic. If Dalek Universe proved anything, it's that any premise--no matter how underwhelming--can generate fantastic stories.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 28, 2022 7:40:25 GMT
I get the well of aliens the Doctor could have met once before is pretty low, but god damn it’s running dry now. Tbf when I was a kid I did use the Moxx figure as an original villain (think I named him Jinx or something along those lines) and I assume they’re riffing a bit off the weird publicity focus the Moxx got back in the day. But still…weird choice. The Tivolian has more substance to work with, though not all that much. Doesn’t the Doctor say he’s only heard about the dream crabs in Last Christmas? Continuity pedantry aside, they’re actually quite a ripe idea so can see why they deserve two outings here. Companions in the set is fine, though I did like that the previous sets were solo outings cos those are so rare.
Writers-wise it does seem they haven’t really pushed the boat out. No offence to the four writers here, but their names do pop up on a lot of releases these days. I know Big Finish always say they’re looking for new talent and I’m sure it’s no easy task, but it’s getting harder to shake the sense of same old, same old.
I’ll wait on reviews I think.
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Post by martinw8686 on Apr 28, 2022 8:43:59 GMT
I'm a little confused with recent 8th Doctor Charley era artwork, he appears to look like the Timewar era 8th Doctor, mid length hair, stubble and more aged. Is this because there limited photos of Paul Mcgann? Sorry to be pedantic but I like cover art to represent the era of the story.
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 28, 2022 8:53:12 GMT
I'm a little confused with recent 8th Doctor Charley era artwork, he appears to look like the Timewar era 8th Doctor, mid length hair, stubble and more aged. Is this because there limited photos of Paul Mcgann? Sorry to be pedantic but I like cover art to represent the era of the story. The art for CDNM looks like they’ve used the Night of the Doctor shots but applied some work to the face, tie and waistcoat to make it a bit more like The TV Movie. I don’t mind it too much personally. It’s no different to my eyes as the various outfit combination and hairstyles that Ten & Twelve spotted throughout their tenure. The eras span a long time for the most part, so there’s no reason why they wouldn’t change appearance, both looks and the garb they’re wearing.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Apr 28, 2022 8:55:35 GMT
I'm a little confused with recent 8th Doctor Charley era artwork, he appears to look like the Timewar era 8th Doctor, mid length hair, stubble and more aged. Is this because there limited photos of Paul Mcgann? Sorry to be pedantic but I like cover art to represent the era of the story. There are licensing issues with the tv movie photography of McGann, so this is the next best thing - it's a photo from Night of the Doctor edited to look like he's wearing his tv movie costume, but this artist hasn't changed the hair or the stubble. For the End of the Beginning, the Lucie Miller boxset, and the Charlotte Pollard boxset, they at least gave him longer tv movie-era hair, but oh well.
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Post by dorney on Apr 28, 2022 12:24:33 GMT
I agree with you on the writers. Not trying to be rude about them because I'm sure these will be great and I can't think of a single bad story from any of them, but I do also think that ranges like this and Peladon should be where they should be trying out new voices. As this has come up a bit, it’s probably worth noting that this set has been in the works for a while. Meaning that the writers were all fairly new or lesser used when it was commissioned.
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 28, 2022 13:48:41 GMT
this one dont sound very exciting
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Post by martinw8686 on Apr 28, 2022 14:14:01 GMT
I'm a little confused with recent 8th Doctor Charley era artwork, he appears to look like the Timewar era 8th Doctor, mid length hair, stubble and more aged. Is this because there limited photos of Paul Mcgann? Sorry to be pedantic but I like cover art to represent the era of the story. There are licensing issues with the tv movie photography of McGann, so this is the next best thing - it's a photo from Night of the Doctor edited to look like he's wearing his tv movie costume, but this artist hasn't changed the hair or the stubble. For the End of the Beginning, the Lucie Miller boxset, and the Charlotte Pollard boxset, they at least gave him longer tv movie-era hair, but oh well. [br Fair enough, I thought it was probably a licensing issue, big finish are usually very good with acurate portrayals of characters age and costumes. The tv movie issue must have arisen after the Lucie Miller era as the covers in those years seemed to portray the tv movie era 8th Doctor. I must say the timewar era costume is my favourite 8th Doctor look, I'd dearly love the time war Doctor to meet Charlie one last time, he's changed so much that the meeting would be really tragic and emotional.
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Post by nitronine on Apr 28, 2022 14:46:12 GMT
I agree with you on the writers. Not trying to be rude about them because I'm sure these will be great and I can't think of a single bad story from any of them, but I do also think that ranges like this and Peladon should be where they should be trying out new voices. As this has come up a bit, it’s probably worth noting that this set has been in the works for a while. Meaning that the writers were all fairly new or lesser used when it was commissioned. That’s understandable. I hope my original post wasn’t too negative, I think BF have been great at bringing in new people in recent years just would’ve liked newer people on this set. But you know more than me and I guess they were so good on this that they kept being used haha
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Post by ollychops on Apr 28, 2022 19:07:59 GMT
I have mixed feelings for this set - it's nice to have it confirmed (and a fourth volume too!) as well as having companions involved this time, but the monsters included are a bit... left-field. I was expecting Krillitanes this time around since Ten had already encountered/was aware of them in School Reunion and they seem like the more obvious choice than some of these. But saying that... having some unusual monsters could prove to be an inspired choice so we'll see. It's nice that the Tivolians get to have their own story given that their two appearances have been part of larger stories.
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Post by Max The Autist on Apr 29, 2022 4:32:13 GMT
And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards! At least it's not another one of those horrible faux-watercolour covers. Those aren't "faux-watercolour" covers, they are painstakingly handcrafted by the artist. She puts a great deal of effort into them, probably more than a lot of other cover artists frankly and they all spend a lot of time on their covers. This isn't some filter or something.
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Post by pawntake on Apr 29, 2022 7:39:30 GMT
At least it's not another one of those horrible faux-watercolour covers. Those aren't "faux-watercolour" covers, they are painstakingly handcrafted by the artist. She puts a great deal of effort into them, probably more than a lot of other cover artists frankly and they all spend a lot of time on their covers. This isn't some filter or something. The watercolour covers are excellent! More please! Just an observation!
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 29, 2022 9:26:09 GMT
I can see both sides here. I’m a fan of the art style, though I believe it’s far more effective when it’s consistently applied across as a range / type of range. I think War Doctor Begins will look gorgeous lined up by the end of the year.
However, it’s easy to say that the process is painstaking and takes a substantial amount of time to do. I absolutely don’t doubt that, but it’s hard to get away from the fact the end result does look like promo pictures with a watercolour-esque effect applied over them.
I appreciate the different and unique style, but perhaps if that was pushed further with unique looks and poses, then they’d be viewed more favourably.
Sorry, just realised that CDNM3 doesn’t even have this style of cover, so very much off topic!
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Post by bonehead on Apr 29, 2022 9:27:08 GMT
That's even worse then. If it takes more than twenty minutes to slap a few stock photos together and make them look awful you're probably in the wrong line of work. Each to their own, but personally I rather like them I think they're gorgeous, the cover to 'Watchers' especially so. I would like Big Finish to maintain a variety of styles, but I really appreciate the effort put into them.
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