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Post by nucleusofswarm on May 21, 2022 13:10:11 GMT
Two Dalek stories that, both intentionally and not, aimed to go more for the funny funny. But which is the more successful at this particular mission?
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Post by grinch on May 21, 2022 13:13:49 GMT
Definitely The Chase. Certainly more fun and it’s makes much more sense than Destiny of the Daleks. Never liked the Movellans and the idea of their conflict with The Daleks between an unending equal match doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense due to the fact that you know... the Daleks aren’t robots.
No matter what the script might say.
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Post by mark687 on May 21, 2022 13:39:08 GMT
Nice to have these back and a tricky one as well!
Chase is stronger material but meanders, and I think the "Haunted House" is too silly.
Now Destiny is a comedy that I don't think is going for comedy and it stays more focused, it suffers massively of course by immediately preceding possibly the greatest blend of Comedy and Drama in DW history.
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Post by theillusiveman on May 21, 2022 14:16:28 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks
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Post by bonehead on May 21, 2022 15:02:04 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks for me, by a country mile, although I like The Chase too.
It's strange that even as far back as 1965, some were speculating that there was only so much you could do with the Daleks, and The Chase seems to echo that. Rather than a story, we have the Daleks in a variety of silly and unlikely locations. It's quite fun, and William Hartnell really sells it as always ('Things that go bumpity-bumpity!'). It's also heightened by a terrific ending as we say goodbye to Ian and Barbara - beautifully done, as is The Doctor's reaction to their departure. The Mechonoids are alright, but are just plumper Daleks; the Doctor Who 'double' is a bit silly, as is the haunted house business. A series of mixed set-pieces.
Destiny is wild and silly too, but more contained and actually has a story to tell. Equally, for all the accustions of overt frivolity during series 17, Tom is often very serious and sells the creepiness of the old abandoned city, with cobwebbed pseudo-corpses, and conversations about zombies. I could go on about Lalla Ward all day, but I won't. She is utterly magnificent throughout, impossibly beautiful and not afraid to get rough and ready with a Movellan - she even kicks his arm off! Also, the Dalek voices are wonderfully raspy and chunky- and coinsistent - in this. They look a bit battered, as does their daddy, but then, they are in the midst of a war they are actually losing, so that makes sense to me.
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Post by grinch on May 21, 2022 15:07:16 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks for me, by a country mile, although I like The Chase too.
It's strange that even as far back as 1965, some were speculating that there was only so much you could do with the Daleks, and The Chase seems to echo that. Rather than a story, we have the Daleks in a variety of silly and unlikely locations. It's quite fun, and William Hartnell really sells it as always ('Things that go bumpity-bumpity!'). It's also heightened by a terrific ending as we say goodbye to Ian and Barbara - beautifully done, as is The Doctor's reaction to their departure. The Mechonoids are alright, but are just plumper Daleks; the Doctor Who 'double' is a bit silly, as is the haunted house business. A series of mixed set-pieces.
Destiny is wild and silly too, but more contained and actually has a story to tell. Equally, for all the accustions of overt frivolity during series 17, Tom is often very serious and sells the creepiness of the old abandoned city, with cobwebbed pseudo-corpses, and conversations about zombies. I could go on about Lalla Ward all day, but I won't. She is utterly magnificent throughout, impossibly beautiful and not afraid to get rough and ready with a Movellan - she even kicks his arm off! Also, the Dalek voices are wonderfully raspy and chunky- and coinsistent - in this. They look a bit battered, as does their daddy, but then, they are in the midst of a war they are actually losing, so that makes sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2022 20:10:18 GMT
The Chase wins this one for me. It was the better story as far as I'm concerned.
Destiny of the Daleks isn't really that good a story and David Gooderson wasn't a great Davros ... I could do a rant about some of it's silliness; Romana's regeneration, Daleks not being robots, air ducts that Daleks couldn't reach, etc... but because it was (re)written by Douglas Adams people overlook all of the nonsense and frivolities.
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Post by bonehead on May 21, 2022 20:27:31 GMT
The Chase wins this one for me. It was the better story as far as I'm concerned.
Destiny of the Daleks isn't really that good a story and David Gooderson wasn't a great Davros ... I could do a rant about some of it's silliness; Romana's regeneration, Daleks not being robots, air ducts that Daleks couldn't reach, etc... but because it was (re)written by Douglas Adams people overlook all of the nonsense and frivolities.
I do understand what you mean, but I like Destiny *because* of the nonsense and frivolities - Romana's radiation tablets are soon forgotten too! I wouldn't want every story to be like this, but I do love it - and it has three cracking cliffhangers too. |
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Post by shutupbanks on May 21, 2022 23:52:53 GMT
The Chase Of Marinus does the funny better but I prefer watching Destiny. Neither story is very good but I at least feel like Destiny is having a go at trying to tell a story whereas Chase just feels like a chore padded out to 6 episodes.
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