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Post by martinw8686 on Jul 22, 2022 21:02:02 GMT
With the news Disney are negotiating with the BBC for streaming rights should we be worried about how this may affect future deals for rights between Big Finish and the BBC?
Also Disney going anywhere near Doctor Who really troubles me, look at the way they butchered Star Wars, carving it up without a care for the expanded universe that had been built up in the intervening years!
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 22, 2022 21:13:20 GMT
Emphasis on the word streaming. If it goes through, that’s all it will be; a platform for new Doctor Who to be watched globally. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jul 22, 2022 21:28:37 GMT
Emphasis on the word streaming. If it goes through, that’s all it will be; a platform for new Doctor Who to be watched globally. Nothing more, nothing less. Thanks for the reassurance, I see Disney getting involved with more beloved shows and movies and I panic. |
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Post by sherlock on Jul 22, 2022 22:04:53 GMT
A Disney channel used to broadcast repeats of Series 2 back in the 2000s (think it was called Disney XD?) so this isn’t exactly unprecedented.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jul 22, 2022 22:35:45 GMT
If it's just streaming and the episodes continue to air on the bbc that's fine.
In terms of creative control the show needs to be in the hands of those that understand it, Big Finish is full to the brim with writers that love the show, that grew up as fans.
I'd be heartbroken to see story's cobbled together in a boardroom by suits, we'd end up with Dwayne Johnson as the Fifthteenth Doctor and everything filmed in green screen!
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Post by Star Platinum on Jul 22, 2022 23:01:57 GMT
Streaming who on Disney Plus? That'd be great, especially if they could get the classics.
Now Disney in creative control? That'd be a nightmare scenario for me. They'd kick Big Finish to the curb in a heartbeat and strip the series of all of it's charm. While the BBC may not be what Doctor Who needs it to be, it's certainly better than the alternative.
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Post by Digi on Jul 22, 2022 23:44:25 GMT
Kind of finding this entire thread baffling honestly... Even if it were to stream through Disney, we already know that the production company moving forward is going to be Bad Wolf. They'll have the vast, vast majority of control over production, just checking with the IP owner, BBC, to make sure they don't go too far astray from what BBC expects of their property. This is like getting concerned that Netflix has the rights to add the new episode of The Flash every week; it makes no difference, they're just the distributor.
And if we're gonna bring other properties into it, I think it's entirely wrongheaded to complain that few crappy movies 'ruined' anything when they're only a fraction of the broadly really stellar media put out in the last decade. I wouldn't get mad at, say, Tolkien's entire Legendarium, just because of a handful of poor narrative choices. The bad is just a drop in an ocean of overwhelming good. The phrase "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" springs to mind.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Jul 23, 2022 4:53:30 GMT
Doctor Who's been on every other streaming service, so why not?  (Unless Disney+ wants to buy the American broadcast rights and replace BBC America, in which case this is actually big news.) |
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Post by martinw8686 on Jul 23, 2022 10:53:24 GMT
Kind of finding this entire thread baffling honestly... Even if it were to stream through Disney, we already know that the production company moving forward is going to be Bad Wolf. They'll have the vast, vast majority of control over production, just checking with the IP owner, BBC, to make sure they don't go too far astray from what BBC expects of their property. This is like getting concerned that Netflix has the rights to add the new episode of The Flash every week; it makes no difference, they're just the distributor. And if we're gonna bring other properties into it, I think it's entirely wrongheaded to complain that few crappy movies 'ruined' anything when they're only a fraction of the broadly really stellar media put out in the last decade. I wouldn't get mad at, say, Tolkien's entire Legendarium, just because of a handful of poor narrative choices. The bad is just a drop in an ocean of overwhelming good. The phrase "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" springs to mind. You're absolutely right, I totally flew off the handle. The day I posted the thread I'd just been to a Star Wars toy exhibit at my local museum, the original 1970s toy displays were awesome but they had the recent Disney ep 7-9 stuff for contrast, I really didn't like the creative choices for the original characters under Disney so when I saw Doctor Who and Disney in the same sentence I went in to a panic without thinking. P.S - I think the diversity and inclusion that Disney promote is great, I suppose I'm a bit precious about Doctor Who and Star Wars because I remember being a geeky bullied kid growing up in the late 80s and early 90s, no one got me at the time and those fictional world's were my escape from difficult times. Like I said, I reacted without thinking yesterday, it's easy to do when your passionate about something. Thanks for calling me on my BS, it's a fine line between healthy concern and discussion towards toxic fandom. |
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 23, 2022 12:43:29 GMT
If Disney are going to get the rights to exclusively stream Doctor who on Disney plus then I wouldn’t even bother watching the show. It will be a cold day in hell before I give Disney a single cent after the crap they have produced in the last decade and how they ruined Star Wars
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Post by timleschild on Jul 24, 2022 12:20:29 GMT
If Disney are going to get the rights to exclusively stream Doctor who on Disney plus then I wouldn’t even bother watching the show. It will be a cold day in hell before I give Disney a single cent after the crap they have produced in the last decade and how they ruined Star Wars But that is not what happening |
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 24, 2022 12:39:39 GMT
I said this on the Series 14 thread, I'll repost here - Like with the Sony buyout, seems some fans are still getting the wrong end of the stick here. Getting streaming rights does not mean 1) Disney is buying Who. (They're not buying the entire rights/IP) 2) Disney is teaming up with the BBC to make Who. (It's not a co-production deal) 3) They won't make DVDs and Blurays now. (This wouldn't impact physical media releases, completely different rights that Disney would have no say in). It's literally the same deal as when Netflix and Amazon and HBO Max got the streaming rights before i.e. it's just distribution, not production or creative. And that's if this goes ahead.
As for a new comment, I do think this is indicative of the BBC taking more pressure off the domestic (UK) side - by treating it as a more global entity, and moving it out of house, the show can weather middling UK ratings in future - even if RTD2 is a great era, we can't say the show won't eve be back in 3 and 4m territory again. Like this, the BBC don't have to worry as much if it 'justifies' the cost.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jul 24, 2022 20:36:26 GMT
If Disney are going to get the rights to exclusively stream Doctor who on Disney plus then I wouldn’t even bother watching the show. It will be a cold day in hell before I give Disney a single cent after the crap they have produced in the last decade and how they ruined Star Wars Why yes … ruined. I mean, they released one of the most loved films, attempted to expand the franchise (only for the fans to intentionally review bomb Solo), told an amazing story of failure and personal redemption (Kenobi), a space western about family/honour (the Mandelorian)…. Three naff films doesn’t ruin anything, if they did Star Wars has been ruined since 1999. The only thing I DO hold them in contempt for is the way the novels were treated. Seriously…. You have a title scrawl, use it to explain the Vong War, and then introduce Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker as the protagonists. |
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