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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 23, 2023 9:54:28 GMT
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Post by mark687 on May 23, 2023 12:48:43 GMT
Mild Spoilers Another frustrating boxset in this frustrating Arc Starts of with the delightfully quirky Broadway Belongs to Me, a showcase for Bonnie and some witty observations on the business of show. Then its Purity and Time-Burst now they're basically the same plot MacBride/Purity influencing characters to influence real life events to archive their objectives (seemly no Birth illness or disability and that Sheffield should be a Scientific Mecca by the 21st Century) The frustrating thing is she still passionately believes she's right and all the Doctor can say as a counter argument is the Web of Time and right to exist one. From a personnel view I'd like to have the Doctor cite a positive of there being differently abled people in the world. The 2 stories endings are 1 provocative and 1 head-starching as well. Purity "Patrica was not a Monster but a good person with a logical intention, I however will become a Monster to achieve the logical intention" Time-Burst Its the expected Cliff-Hanger but not with the assumed expected change Again no fault in the Performances I just hope August release resolves it with some sensible finality. 3/5 Regards mark687
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Post by mark687 on May 23, 2023 14:46:59 GMT
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Post by mark687 on May 24, 2023 15:58:20 GMT
Updated Cover Image for the ST Interlude
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Post by mark687 on May 25, 2023 9:31:27 GMT
Also there's an Extended Interview DL for Time Burst also located in the attached Bonus Content Box.
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Post by mark687 on May 25, 2023 10:09:33 GMT
1st Review
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Post by mark687 on May 25, 2023 10:49:51 GMT
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Post by tuigirl on May 28, 2023 8:45:59 GMT
It is telling, like in many other threads in this forum, when there is no member reviews or discussion. Only copies of advertising, social media posts and of these bought review sides. This does not inspire confidence in me and neither makes me want to listen nor, if I had not preordered the release, buy it. I have stopped reading these fake „ all is wonderful“ reviews. I come on here hoping to see new posts from members, and am disappointed every time I see a new advertising post. Honest question to the moderators aussiedoctorwhofan et al. Is this necessary? Is this forum payed by BF? Do you really need to repost all this advertising? Hardly anyone is reacting and I by now find it annoying. I will make a post in the general section and maybe we should add a poll.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 28, 2023 9:05:16 GMT
It is telling, like in many other threads in this forum, when there is no member reviews or discussion. Only copies of advertising, social media posts and of these bought review sides. This does not inspire confidence in me and neither makes me want to listen nor, if I had not preordered the release, buy it. I have stopped reading these fake „ all is wonderful“ reviews. I come on here hoping to see new posts from members, and am disappointed every time I see a new advertising post. Honest question to the moderators aussiedoctorwhofan et al. Is this necessary? Is this forum payed by BF? Do you really need to repost all this advertising? Hardly anyone is reacting and I by now find it annoying. I will make a post in the general section and maybe we should add a poll. We always encourage everyone to engage in constructive conversations, whatever starts a conversation is welcomed.
Ebbs and flows ..
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Post by tuigirl on May 28, 2023 9:07:38 GMT
It is telling, like in many other threads in this forum, when there is no member reviews or discussion. Only copies of advertising, social media posts and of these bought review sides. This does not inspire confidence in me and neither makes me want to listen nor, if I had not preordered the release, buy it. I have stopped reading these fake „ all is wonderful“ reviews. I come on here hoping to see new posts from members, and am disappointed every time I see a new advertising post. Honest question to the moderators aussiedoctorwhofan et al. Is this necessary? Is this forum payed by BF? Do you really need to repost all this advertising? Hardly anyone is reacting and I by now find it annoying. I will make a post in the general section and maybe we should add a poll. We always encourage everyone to engage in constructive conversations, whatever starts a conversation is welcomed.
Ebbs and flows ..
See the thread I made on this. Delete if irrelevant. EDIT: I just do not think advertising is a constructive contribution.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 28, 2023 9:28:03 GMT
We always encourage everyone to engage in constructive conversations, whatever starts a conversation is welcomed.
Ebbs and flows ..
See the thread I made on this. Delete if irrelevant. EDIT: I just do not think advertising is a constructive contribution. I have gotten into a handful of ranges thanks to advertising. It's all part and parcel of being online. We see so many people logging in but not contributing which is a shame.
Marketing helps overall IMHO.
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Post by tuigirl on May 28, 2023 11:13:21 GMT
See the thread I made on this. Delete if irrelevant. EDIT: I just do not think advertising is a constructive contribution. I have gotten into a handful of ranges thanks to advertising. It's all part and parcel of being online. We see so many people logging in but not contributing which is a shame.
Marketing helps overall IMHO.
Just follow the thread I did. some others also think it is an issue. Maybe Refrain sharing that stuff in the discussion threads. If I want that stuff, I go into the update= advertising thread. Honestly, just look at the tread we are in. This is no constructive discussion. It only shows me you spend too much time on social media and have mastered the feat of copy pasting. For news, update thread. For discussions, here.
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Post by Kestrel on May 29, 2023 0:44:07 GMT
I don't think the posting of tweets is necessarily advertising -- or, rather, it's that not every individual tweet is an advertisement. Sometimes it can be nice to see what the people involved in a story have to say about it, just as much as it is to hear what they have to say in the BTS audio tracks accompanying (almost) every release. And certainly not everything people say or quote here necessarily needs to drive discussion, but it should at least merit some thought.But, yeah, I am also (very) weary of the endless marketing. And when you see a thread with as little going on in this one, and pair it with how distinctly underwhelming (and that's the polite word for it) these XDAs have been so far... it's all just kind of grating. "Go buy this expensive thing that we promise is good despite the fact that, evidently, there's nothing in it interesting enough for even the biggest fans to talk about." Though I'll admit the recent slew or price hikes leaves me feeling less and less charitable about such things; more and more inclined to cynicism. Another frustrating boxset in this frustrating Arc From a personnel view I'd like to have the Doctor cite a positive of there being differently abled people in the world. Frustrating is definitely a good word for it, on pretty much every level. I think their heart is in the right place with these themes, or at least I very much hope it is, but the execution is... far from ideal. Pretty much all of the major issues I had with Water Worlds... have persisted.
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Post by tuigirl on May 29, 2023 7:29:23 GMT
I don't think the posting of tweets is necessarily advertising -- or, rather, it's that not every individual tweet is an advertisement. Sometimes it can be nice to see what the people involved in a story have to say about it, just as much as it is to hear what they have to say in the BTS audio tracks accompanying (almost) every release. And certainly not everything people say or quote here necessarily needs to drive discussion, but it should at least merit some thought.But, yeah, I am also (very) weary of the endless marketing. And when you see a thread with as little going on in this one, and pair it with how distinctly underwhelming (and that's the polite word for it) these XDAs have been so far... it's all just kind of grating. "Go buy this expensive thing that we promise is good despite the fact that, evidently, there's nothing in it interesting enough for even the biggest fans to talk about." Though I'll admit the recent slew or price hikes leaves me feeling less and less charitable about such things; more and more inclined to cynicism. Another frustrating boxset in this frustrating Arc From a personnel view I'd like to have the Doctor cite a positive of there being differently abled people in the world. Frustrating is definitely a good word for it, on pretty much every level. I think their heart is in the right place with these themes, or at least I very much hope it is, but the execution is... far from ideal. Pretty much all of the major issues I had with Water Worlds... have persisted. You put my thoughts and feeling into the right and much better words. Yes, exactly, this is exactly why I got annoyed so much in the first place. I am a big fan of Colin, but after these lukewarm words from members, I just do not feel the need to listen to this release. I have a hard time concentrating and would be less than charitable when I write a review here. So sadly, no, all those flashy pictures and the tweets and the advertisements shared here do not make me, a Colin fan, any more interested in this. Just the opposite. I have preordered this anyways, because I bought the bundle and I had hopes for Colin, but my enthusiasm for it has hit rock bottom.
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Post by Alastair on May 29, 2023 8:11:44 GMT
I enjoyed Water Worlds quite a bit. Hebe is a great companion.
Purity Undreamed I admired more in concept than execution. Grounding your sci-fi in English academia certainly gives it a distinct flavour, but (1) it felt like Hebe got lost in the ensemble just as we were getting to know her, and (2) if you’re going the soap opera route, Standed is an impossibly hard act to follow. Still, it was entirely unlike the first set, and promised something different again for the third.
There are a few things holding me back this time. A doubling of cost in Australian dollars. The absence of Ruth Madeley (whether by design or as a creative way around her Who TV role). A sense that this series is perpetually on the verge of finding a rhythm and identity.
I still admire its commitment to being different, and at least one friend with impeccable taste loves the range unreservedly, so maybe it’s just not for me. Very open and interested in reading more opinions!
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Post by jbatty8 on May 29, 2023 8:29:05 GMT
I'm a long term subscriber to BF, since the beginning. I've seen the highs and the lows, the huge growth of various spin offs and ranges. Like any corporation at some point Big Finish lost what made it special to us fans and turned it into a bigger commercial operation.
As a result we have seen some erosion of good story telling, and a lot of standard x+y vs z. Many releases with characters stuck together because its not been done before, not because it's a good story that demands it. A huge number of unnecessary sequels and prequels in the past ten years points at either a lack of ideas, sales issues or corporate preference.
We rarely see experimentation like we did in the early days and we have to assume that's because Big Finish have a formula they know will sell. For the first time ever it's got me questioning what I buy. I had been buying everything, but now I'm regretting purchases, such as the 9DAs and the new Genesis release, because they are so poor.
The 9DAs are the weakest range for me currently as it had no direction, just random stories, at least one in every set is awful. It should be better, but if there is a season 4 I'm not buying currently. I'm also not buying the 2024 super subscription until I know what's coming, and even then I think I will move to monthly purchases. I've lost trust basically.
However with these new 6DA box sets they do appear to have taken a path that looks to introduce something fresh. I'm actually pleased to see that, although it's not always executed successfully.
This boxset has an erroneous first episode, its not a bad story if a little limited. I find it hard to believe the enemies overall plan they came up with is at all sensible and seems very silly. But it's fun if you like that sort of thing.
The next two episodes whilst linked really move the overall arc onwards and I enjoyed them a lot. I agree with others though about McBride and the Doctors various confrontations, his argument is weak (McBrides isn't a lot better to be fair), and you think that sixie would have shut her down more if this was written 10 years ago.
Good use of time travel, and the resolution worked. The end was somewhat predictable as we have another boxset to come, but I have been enjoying it. I hope it all concludes well in the next set.
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Post by Chakoteya on May 29, 2023 8:52:48 GMT
Unleashed is a good warning message on being able to change history just because you can, for narrow reasons. The ripples of unintended consequences as you splash through the River of Time cause mayhem. It will be interesting to see where we go in the next set. It does make one think a little of all the Doctor's interventions on the side of Right and whether the realities they created were better or worse for communities out on the periphery of those ripples. Sort of Time War in miniature.
And Broadway was a cracker too.
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Post by The Matt on May 29, 2023 9:05:45 GMT
I’m another one who is getting tired of the endless copy and pasted from Twitter. If people were that interested surely they’d just follow BF on Twitter already and if they don’t then they’re not interested enough to scroll through endless screenshots just so members can get their post count up and try and beat other members to be the first to post them 🙄
As for the set…..abysmal. Broadway belongs to me just fails on every level. Story, performances, humour and the usual rubbish American accents. A bunch of nomark villains that neither the Doctor or the listener have ever heard of gang up to get an incriminating photo. That’s it, that’s your plot. Not only is it awful but it doesn’t even it’s into the main story so I had to listen to this tripe for no reason. I’m sure the lovvies in the studio has fun recording it but it was painful to listen to.
The second story was the best solely because it wasn’t as awful as what came before or what follows. Just boring as all hell.
The final story was just a drag. Stock accents with characters saying stick things with a couple of “twists” that Stevie Wonder could have seen coming and a cliffhanger that I’ll never hear concluded because I am done.
Ever since Waterworld the 6DAs have been painful to listen to. The best story could only be described as barely average. I don’t know what Helen Goldwyn, Jacqueline Rayner and Robert Valentine are hearing to think this stuff is good enough to release but these sets are just getting worse.
For the first time ever I am going to have to drop a classic Doctor from my purchase list. I can’t justify the cash for this rubbish. A behind the scenes shake up is desperately needed.
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Post by jbatty8 on May 29, 2023 10:07:49 GMT
I don't mind taking a risk on 12 monthly adventures. But to essentially pay out £300 on massive unknowns now of questionable quality, could see trouble ahead for BF, as subscriptions used to be what kept them going.
You know they are having concerns when they throw out Dalek or Cybermen stories into a range.
The previous poster shares many of my thoughts about this past set, although I can see some positives. The Broadway one is nonsense, but if I want something to have on in the background, then I'm ok with it.
The quality level has dropped for some ranges, noticeably the 6DAs. But unless that translates to a drop in sales, this is how it will be for some time.
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Post by cjr on May 29, 2023 16:58:05 GMT
The was a time when the BF CDs would drop through my postbox (pre-Downloads!), and if it was a 6DA, I’d clear some time. Or do some house chores and put on the first episode. A couple of hours later, I’d equally be satisfied and saddened that I’d burned through another great story that quickly.
Tellingly, I downloaded Purity Undreamed on release. I started the set about Christmas, after being mostly unimpressed by Water Worlds. Worked my way through the box set for a couple of weeks, and literally stopped listening to Purity Undreamed halfway through Chronomancer until last week.
It’s not fatigue of BF - I enjoyed the latest 5th Doctor set, and loved the latest Benny series. But there’s something not sitting right with me about this run. I’ll start on Purity Unleashed and see where I lay compared to the opinions above.
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