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Post by martinw8686 on Mar 25, 2023 16:32:29 GMT
In recent months, we've seen an increase in the BBC cancelling programmes, and presenters perceived to have left wing or liberal views, for example Mock the Week, Frankie Boyle's New World Order, a recent episode of David Attenborough and then the situation with Gary Lineker.
In some cases these views the BBC are so concerned with, are simple human decency, kindness and consideration for those marginalised or less fortunate.
The current UK government are the opitamy of over privileged selfishness, with policies that discriminate against the most vulnerable in society. They seek to cover up their own incompetence and corruption by trying to lay the blame for the counties issues on migrants and others in need of support and compassion.
It's incredibly hard not to cry out against the current government, this goes beyond the left/right political devide, this is a matter of what is right and what is wrong.
The BBCs excessive censorship of anything perceived to be critical of the government is going way too far, this is beginning to feel like the nightmare world imagined by George Orwell, how long before accusations of thought crimes are leveled against those that don't blindly follow corporate reteric.
I adore Doctor Who, but I'm beginning to despise what the current regime at the BBC stand for. Let's hope our beloved show can continue to stand for kindness and rally against the cruel and cowardly, because from where I'm standing the BBC is looking very cruel and cowardly.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Mar 25, 2023 18:44:46 GMT
I'm not aware of any specific reason why "Mock the Week" was cancelled, and Frankie Boyle has always been a figure of controversy. The David Attenborough story was denied within hours of it being claimed, and Gary Lineker failed to apologies when his remarks were seen to have (admittedly, unintentional) anti-semetic implications. (It should also be noted that his remarks conveniently knocked reporting of his tax tribunal off the headlines)
What's happening with the BBC is that in recent years there has been considerable criticism of it that it aligns left. It's therefore found it necessary to reposition. Of course, some people don't like that, but it doesn't mean that it's wrong to do so. All I can say is, I must have missed all those tv shows where they say how much they like the government...
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Post by martinw8686 on Mar 25, 2023 22:42:26 GMT
I'm not aware of any specific reason why "Mock the Week" was cancelled, and Frankie Boyle has always been a figure of controversy. The David Attenborough story was denied within hours of it being claimed, and Gary Lineker failed to apologies when his remarks were seen to have (admittedly, unintentional) anti-semetic implications. (It should also be noted that his remarks conveniently knocked reporting of his tax tribunal off the headlines)
What's happening with the BBC is that in recent years there has been considerable criticism of it that it aligns left. It's therefore found it necessary to reposition. Of course, some people don't like that, but it doesn't mean that it's wrong to do so. All I can say is, I must have missed all those tv shows where they say how much they like the government...
I'm reasonably confident Mock the Week, The Mash Report and New World Order were cancelled by the BBC because they were often critical of the tories. Given most of the government are a collection of incompetent psychopaths it's pretty much a given they be the topic of jokes. Ed Byrne on Mock the Week even quipped "the show was cancelled by a bunch of tories that can't take a f##king joke". Yes Frankie Boyle is controversial but that hasn't stopped him from working with the BBC on various projects for over 15 years, his show is in fact very progressive and has a highly inclusive panel of guests. I firmly believe BBC news should be impatial but to stop presenters from expressing their opinion on a forum away from work doesn't sit well with me. For me linking Linekers words to anti semitism is a deflection tactic from the right. It was perfectly clear he was referencing the similar way the tories are demonising a marginalised minority, looking to steer blame and hatred towards migrants to deflect the genuine concerns people have about tory sleaze, corruption and incompetence. It feels to me like there's a shift going on at the BBC, based on links to Boris Johnson and fears of a vindictive government. I appreciate you're view, there's two sides to every story. I just hope we don't see the alignment shift to the right. For my part it's the BBCs lose, I'll always tune in to Doctor Who but for my topical comedy I'll go to the channels that take on the comedians the BBC is parting company with. |
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Post by martinw8686 on Mar 25, 2023 23:23:31 GMT
Sorry for getting on my soap box, I get so frustrated by the current government and my favourite comedy shows help cheer me up. I'm not being very impartial myself, perhaps best to stick to enjoying Doctor Who and leave politics for the sake of my sanity.
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 26, 2023 0:26:26 GMT
I watched a couple of recent mock the week episodes and watched a couple of classic mock the week episodes when Frankie Boyle was on
And the difference was like classic Simpsons and modern day Simpsons
The show was funny 10 years ago and most of the comedians that were funny left (show was never the same after Frankie got booted)
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Post by Chakoteya on Mar 26, 2023 10:14:38 GMT
The BBC is currently very vulnerable to political pressure due to the Charter renewal coming up and the Government of the day getting to decide what it has to do with whatever funding they decide to give it.
The rot set in when They loaded all the costs of the free over 75's TV (in 2015) licence and running the World Service (in 2014) onto the main BBC budget instead of keeping it within the relevant Government departments. Frantic cuts to to services, staff etc. had to be made and are still continuing. The Government even "persuaded" the BBC to finance Local Democracy Reporters working in other news organisations! (2017) They are now having to try and get those organisations to contribute to the costs - and of course they're not keen. Why dip into your own pocket to help defray the cost for something that someone else has been told to provide you for free?
I can't imagine any other business that has to try and double-think their way around those sorts of bombshells to their incomes and the attitudes of the Nadine Dorries of the world too.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 26, 2023 16:30:18 GMT
I'm not aware of any specific reason why "Mock the Week" was cancelled, and Frankie Boyle has always been a figure of controversy. The David Attenborough story was denied within hours of it being claimed, and Gary Lineker failed to apologies when his remarks were seen to have (admittedly, unintentional) anti-semetic implications. (It should also be noted that his remarks conveniently knocked reporting of his tax tribunal off the headlines)
What's happening with the BBC is that in recent years there has been considerable criticism of it that it aligns left. It's therefore found it necessary to reposition. Of course, some people don't like that, but it doesn't mean that it's wrong to do so. All I can say is, I must have missed all those tv shows where they say how much they like the government...
That's a bit reductive of a real issue - it's not that the BBC is making 'The Tories Are Great, Series 5' for BBC One, but rather a number of their top brass are either members of or closely aligned with the Conservative party, such as Tim Davie, Robbie Gibbs, Laura Kuenessberg, Fiona Bruce and several more. Ex journos like Emily Maitlis have been vocal about the skewing of the balance rightwards, such as a lot of guest panelists hailing from right leaning publications like The Telegraph and The Spectator; their many gaffs when it comes to having LGBT pieces with no LGBT people involved (and especially dropping the ball when they told employees not to go to pride, and then having to backpedal due to the sheer wave of backlash); their damaging pursuit of 'balance' leading to the platforming of spin doctors, climate deniers and fringe extremists who spread misinformation with next-to-no pushback.
Now a response to that may be 'but their dramas and comedies have a lot of progressive elements don't they?' - yes, but it's kind of like how Fox was. The entertainment side leans one way, the news side another. Chakoteya above rightly notes the battle of the licence fee and how hostile the Tories have been towards them, always dangling it over to get more of their people in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 0:02:30 GMT
Their main issue, for me, has been the "balance". So they would give air-time to an anti-Vaxxer or "Trump won 2020" moron just as they would to rational people. With equal time, that allows bile to spread. Nigel Farage is, I believe, one of the most frequent guests on Question Time ever to represent his far-right BS and that attempt to give "balance" from Auntie Beeb lent him cred and inarguably swayed Brexit. Their coverage of the SNP and any independent Scotland talk is also impossibly biased as they would lose a LOT of licence fees and given the constituation crisis that no more UK would cause, potentially invalidate their founding charter.
It's still a wonderful news outlet at it's best and does make the best drama on Earth.
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Post by Timelord007 on Apr 14, 2023 7:58:10 GMT
Like most things nowadays it's run by moronic imbeciles.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Apr 28, 2023 9:57:22 GMT
Well, at least one's gone.
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Post by Chakoteya on Jul 12, 2023 8:24:13 GMT
Well, BBC, choices, choices, choices.
Do I watch the RTD version of Midsummer Night's Dream from 2016 or the new hip version with Ncoti Gatwa, both now available on iPlayer?
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Post by timleschild on Jul 12, 2023 11:58:53 GMT
Oh dear. BBC in the firing line again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 21:28:45 GMT
Oh dear. BBC in the firing line again. I can't blame the BBC for the stupidity of one of it's newsreaders! They could probably handle things a lot better than they do, but in my experience the bigger the company the slower they are to act on anything. Too much red tape and bureaucracy. Ideally I'm sure the BBC would rather its employees did not offer teenage girls money for explicit photos. (Clearly HE has never heard of OnlyFans!)
Over here we've a much more serious scandal going on with RTE that doesn't involve that type of thing. Even so, RTE have still proved to be more inept than the BBC at handling things! What is it with state broadcasters and shooting themselves in the foot?!
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