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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 10, 2023 8:34:05 GMT
"Sam has been haunted for years by the Sigil. She’s drawn the pattern since she was a child, she has a tattoo of it, she sells prints of it. Then one day, she sees it on a statue in the window of Bilis Manger's shop. It turns out the Sigil is very old indeed. Why has it been haunting her? Why is it on a Celtic statue of a bird? Where did it come from? Has a terrible entity been released from its ancient slumber?" 
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Post by bonehead on Aug 10, 2023 8:55:15 GMT
That's made my day (perhaps I should be posting in that thread). I honestly thought we wouldn't hear from Murray Melvin again following events in the Torchwood Among Us set - I never knew he'd recorded another one!
Great news.
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Post by grinch on Aug 10, 2023 11:11:04 GMT
Looking forward to eventually giving this a listen.
No doubt it’ll make for a very bittersweet experience.
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 10, 2023 12:33:32 GMT
Not much tickles my fancy at the moment, but I love Billis Manger.
So will get this.
Maybe even listen tonight (or the weekend).
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Post by Ricky on Aug 10, 2023 12:35:13 GMT
It's such a privilege to have one final performance from Murray Melvin to listen to. I'm very much counting down the hours until the end of the workday to hear this
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Post by bonehead on Aug 10, 2023 15:31:04 GMT
Little is new in this story, but that's okay, especially when we are in such illustrious company. There's something oily, ubsequious but charming and villainously humble about Bilis 'Bill' Manger, and I'm glad the story has opted for an open-ended finale. Tweaks could have been made to the climax following Murray Melvin's passing, giving the character some kind of closure - but I'm glad BF didn't do that. I mean, how could you possibly close the book on Bilis? He's in good company here - neither Gabrielle Brooks as Sam or Angus Imrie as Emil are overshadowed, and put in really good performances.
Sigil ends a definite chapter in the life of Torchwood in a good, solid way, unless they recast. I hope they don't.
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Post by grinch on Aug 10, 2023 15:41:39 GMT
Little is new in this story, but that's okay, especially when we are in such illustrious company. There's something oily, ubsequious but charming and villainously humble about Bilis 'Bill' Manger, and I'm glad the story has opted for an open-ended finale. Tweaks could have been made to the climax following Murray Melvin's passing, giving the character some kind of closure - but I'm glad BF didn't do that. I mean, how could you possibly close the book on Bilis? He's in good company here - neither Gabrielle Brooks as Sam or Angus Imrie as Emil are overshadowed, and put in really good performances.
Sigil ends a definite chapter in the life of Torchwood in a good, solid way, unless they recast. I hope they don't.
Considering Bilis’s own declaration in the series that he doesn’t belong anywhere within history, it wouldn’t seem right (in my opinion) that he’d have a definite end regardless of Mr Melvin’s untimely passing. |
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Post by melkur on Aug 11, 2023 10:57:13 GMT
My CD copy arrived this morning. Well, that was quick -!
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 20, 2023 8:44:16 GMT
Loved it.
Fantastic performance and a nice twist at the end ( I am not that into Torchwood, so it surprised me, but maybe people more familiar might have expected it).
This story was creepy, had you guessing, Billis sends shivers down your spine.... what more could you expect?
Also great use of sound effects.
All comes together here.
And the Open end signals that Billis might still be around to haunt this world....
All in all a great send-off for Murray Melvin.
And this also works perfectly as a stand- alone creepy story, plus not much Torchwood knowledge is needed.
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Post by jadominek on Aug 20, 2023 11:14:01 GMT
I am not that into Torchwood, so it surprised me, but maybe people more familiar might have expected it For me, somebody who despises Torchwood, it's very good cuz it's not Torchwood at all  The bad guy could have been mr Jacobi's Yana Master without necessity to change the plot (Cuz he's so good I mean  ) |
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Post by mark687 on Aug 20, 2023 11:25:03 GMT
I am not that into Torchwood, so it surprised me, but maybe people more familiar might have expected it For me, somebody who despises Torchwood, it's very good cuz it's not Torchwood at all The bad guy could have been mr Jacobi's Yana Master without necessity to change the plot (Cuz he's so good I mean ) All the single CD MRs with him are just Billis playing games or turning the plot to his advantage no prior Torchwood knowledge needed Regards mark687 |
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Post by jadominek on Aug 20, 2023 13:13:32 GMT
For me, somebody who despises Torchwood, it's very good cuz it's not Torchwood at all The bad guy could have been mr Jacobi's Yana Master without necessity to change the plot (Cuz he's so good I mean ) All the single CD MRs with him are just Billis playing games or turning the plot to his advantage no prior Torchwood knowledge needed Regards mark687 So there is more good Torchwood (that are good because they have no Torchwood) stuff? Nice to know, any recommendations? |
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Post by bonehead on Aug 20, 2023 14:15:59 GMT
All the single CD MRs with him are just Billis playing games or turning the plot to his advantage no prior Torchwood knowledge needed Regards mark687 So there is more good Torchwood (that are good because they have no Torchwood) stuff? Nice to know, any recommendations? I never really 'got into' Torchwood on the telly (the only episode I really liked was From Out of the Rain) but I love the majority of the audios. Recommendations? Loads!
Double, Dead Plates, The Grey Mare, Curios, Drive, Tropical Beach Sounds and Other Relaxing Seascapes #4, Dissected, Dead Man's Switch, The Vigil, The Hope, The Green Life, Night of the Fendahl, Deadbeat Escape, torchwood_cascade_ CDRip.tor, Corpse Day, Made You Look, Zone 10, More Than This and Fall to Earth.
And that's just the monthly range ...
I honestly think you'll enjoy these. If you do, perhaps consider branching out into the box sets. Good luck!
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Post by jadominek on Aug 20, 2023 14:30:03 GMT
So there is more good Torchwood (that are good because they have no Torchwood) stuff? Nice to know, any recommendations? I never really 'got into' Torchwood on the telly (the only episode I really liked was From Out of the Rain) but I love the majority of the audios. Recommendations? Loads!
Double, Dead Plates, The Grey Mare, Curios, Drive, Tropical Beach Sounds and Other Relaxing Seascapes #4, Dissected, Dead Man's Switch, The Vigil, The Hope, The Green Life, Night of the Fendahl, Deadbeat Escape, torchwood_cascade_ CDRip.tor, Corpse Day, Made You Look, Zone 10, More Than This and Fall to Earth.
And that's just the monthly range ...
I honestly think you'll enjoy these. If you do, perhaps consider branching out into the box sets. Good luck!
Thank you very much I'll check on Tardis Wiki which of them have no main characters from the show and will choose something interesting. |
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Post by bonehead on Aug 20, 2023 14:31:28 GMT
I never really 'got into' Torchwood on the telly (the only episode I really liked was From Out of the Rain) but I love the majority of the audios. Recommendations? Loads!
Double, Dead Plates, The Grey Mare, Curios, Drive, Tropical Beach Sounds and Other Relaxing Seascapes #4, Dissected, Dead Man's Switch, The Vigil, The Hope, The Green Life, Night of the Fendahl, Deadbeat Escape, torchwood_cascade_ CDRip.tor, Corpse Day, Made You Look, Zone 10, More Than This and Fall to Earth.
And that's just the monthly range ...
I honestly think you'll enjoy these. If you do, perhaps consider branching out into the box sets. Good luck!
Thank you very much I'll check on Tardis Wiki which of them have no main characters from the show and will choose something interesting. You are very welcome. Some of those recommendations have characters from the show - not all by any means - but are mainly independent, standalone stories.  |
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Post by mark687 on Aug 20, 2023 15:44:10 GMT
I never really 'got into' Torchwood on the telly (the only episode I really liked was From Out of the Rain) but I love the majority of the audios. Recommendations? Loads!
Double, Dead Plates, The Grey Mare, Curios, Drive, Tropical Beach Sounds and Other Relaxing Seascapes #4, Dissected, Dead Man's Switch, The Vigil, The Hope, The Green Life, Night of the Fendahl, Deadbeat Escape, torchwood_cascade_ CDRip.tor, Corpse Day, Made You Look, Zone 10, More Than This and Fall to Earth.
And that's just the monthly range ...
I honestly think you'll enjoy these. If you do, perhaps consider branching out into the box sets. Good luck!
Thank you very much I'll check on Tardis Wiki which of them have no main characters from the show and will choose something interesting. Also The Dying Room (a one off all original characters WW2 Era spy thriller genre) Regards mark687 |
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 20, 2023 19:40:32 GMT
I never really 'got into' Torchwood on the telly (the only episode I really liked was From Out of the Rain) but I love the majority of the audios. Recommendations? Loads!
Double, Dead Plates, The Grey Mare, Curios, Drive, Tropical Beach Sounds and Other Relaxing Seascapes #4, Dissected, Dead Man's Switch, The Vigil, The Hope, The Green Life, Night of the Fendahl, Deadbeat Escape, torchwood_cascade_ CDRip.tor, Corpse Day, Made You Look, Zone 10, More Than This and Fall to Earth.
And that's just the monthly range ...
I honestly think you'll enjoy these. If you do, perhaps consider branching out into the box sets. Good luck!
Thank you very much I'll check on Tardis Wiki which of them have no main characters from the show and will choose something interesting. If you liked Billis Manger in Sigil, I very much recommend Dead Man's Switch. That one is also stand-alone and very evil (in a nice way). |
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Post by nottenst on Aug 23, 2023 17:26:40 GMT
Just listened to it. I was surprised. I thought that we'd get something like the end we got, but I thought it would all be Billis maneuvering events. Well done all around.
I had a sense of dread throughout.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Aug 28, 2023 18:24:17 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Sept 5, 2023 21:56:01 GMT
A quiet final outing for Bilis, which whilst not intended as an ending works fine as one. We finally get some insight into his motives (though what exactly he deems “balance” and why he took on this duty is suitably unclear) and the open ending is a nice last moment for him. The twist was a genuine surprise for me, and I think it fitted well.
Ultimately it’s left me wanting more, again, and it’s tragic there won’t be anymore. But I’ll always be grateful for these little sinister tales of Bilis. Murray Melvin always performed really well and the material always matched his commitment.
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