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Post by martinw8686 on Aug 30, 2023 8:23:40 GMT
I'm just starting the Gallifrey range but wonder will Big Finish be able to address what happened to Leela, Narvin, Romana, etc after the Time War, were they in the pocket universe and then revived Gallifrey when it was destroyed by the Master?
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 30, 2023 9:49:28 GMT
I'm just starting the Gallifrey range but wonder will Big Finish be able to address what happened to Leela, Narvin, Romana, etc after the Time War, were they in the pocket universe and then revived Gallifrey when it was destroyed by the Master? Leela was kind of addressed in the Companion Chronicles by Nigel Fairs |
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Post by horatiowatson on Aug 30, 2023 15:52:32 GMT
Had it not been for the TV series re-destroying Gallifrey, I was expecting the range to jump ahead after Time War 4 and be set following the events of Hell Bent. Gallifrey, restored to the universe but in reduced circumstances, attempts to reestablish its standing as a galactic power in a way that won't trigger new conflict. But I think that might have been hard to write a series like that knowing the Master was going to swoop down and reduce it all to ash in one go anyway.
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Post by timleschild on Aug 30, 2023 15:57:58 GMT
All dead now hopefully.
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Post by Star Platinum on Aug 30, 2023 19:19:13 GMT
Posts like this make me glad you aren’t involved with any of the Doctor Who creative teams. That aside, I certainly wouldn’t mind a post Time War Gallifrey series. How does a society that was one of the great democracies in the franchise go back from its war footing post Time War? As for the second destruction, we’ll see what RTD does with it going forward. I don’t know how much of “The last of the Timelords” material he’ll want to retread, and Both Gallifrey and Skaro have been brought back from total destruction a few times in both Television and Big Finish continuity a few times. Only time will tell. |
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Post by martinw8686 on Aug 30, 2023 21:54:40 GMT
I think re destroying Gallifrey is the main reason I disliked the Timeless Child so much, just a total dick move from Chibnall.
I can be objective about all the other 13th Doctor divisive moments but re-destroying Gallifrey is a big bugbear for me.
The 2005 destroyed Gallifrey felt like an interesting way to add depth to the story and avoid overwhelming a new audience with too much continuity. But the 2nd time is such a waste, which appears to have been done to make life easier for the writer rather than any meaningful purpose.
Long story short, I'd love ongoing Gallifrey stories and characters without such a cumbersome curtain drawn across the stage.
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Post by nardole on Aug 31, 2023 2:14:37 GMT
I think they'll do hell bent stuff eventually. Sure the master destroyed it but you could have a big gap between then plus I don't think gallifrey will stay destroyed again for too long anyway.
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Post by timleschild on Aug 31, 2023 7:28:13 GMT
Posts like this make me glad you aren’t involved with any of the Doctor Who creative teams. That aside, I certainly wouldn’t mind a post Time War Gallifrey series. How does a society that was one of the great democracies in the franchise go back from its war footing post Time War? As for the second destruction, we’ll see what RTD does with it going forward. I don’t know how much of “The last of the Timelords” material he’ll want to retread, and Both Gallifrey and Skaro have been brought back from total destruction a few times in both Television and Big Finish continuity a few times. Only time will tell. Posts like this make me glad you aren’t involved with any of the Doctor Who creative teams. |
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Post by enofa on Sept 1, 2023 10:45:50 GMT
To be fair, series 3-6 were written with the knowledge that they’d all be wiped out in the Time War and it didn’t stop the story continuing, so there’s no need for the Chibnall destruction to make any difference. Plus we don’t know how long the planet was around between The Day of the Doctor and the Master’s apparent destruction of the planet. It could have been a thousand years, or ten thousand. There’s plenty of room for a plot.
I’d definitely be keen to hear stuff from this era - by the time War Room is done there’ll have been more Time War era Gallifrey material than pre-Time War material, and it’ll be really nice to get a change.
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Post by martinw8686 on Sept 1, 2023 18:53:17 GMT
To be fair, series 3-6 were written with the knowledge that they’d all be wiped out in the Time War and it didn’t stop the story continuing, so there’s no need for the Chibnall destruction to make any difference. Plus we don’t know how long the planet was around between The Day of the Doctor and the Master’s apparent destruction of the planet. It could have been a thousand years, or ten thousand. There’s plenty of room for a plot. I’d definitely be keen to hear stuff from this era - by the time War Room is done there’ll have been more Time War era Gallifrey material than pre-Time War material, and it’ll be really nice to get a change. You make a good point. The state of Gallifrey while they were in the pocket universe is interesting for a different kind of story. It would be lovely to add some references to Trenzlor, the Saxon Master being kicked out, the 12th Doctors confession dial and the machinations of the exhaled Rasilon. I've said for a long time I'd love to see post apocalyptic Gallifrey after the Masters destruction, with Timelords emerging from bunkers to form rival rebuild factions. |
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Post by martinw8686 on Sept 4, 2023 15:35:29 GMT
I wonder where Gallifrey goes after War Room?
Galifrey:Time War "No More" - charting the final moments of the War, when all seemed doomed for the Timelords, the Daleks closing in, the Timelords at their most ruthless, desperate and cruel. Enter the War Doctor (Jonathan Carley), as he is pushed towards his search for the moment.
Adding the War Doctor to the range as an assemble charecter amongst the regulars would be just awesome and such a great setting point for the range.
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 7, 2023 2:17:15 GMT
Had it not been for the TV series re-destroying Gallifrey, I was expecting the range to jump ahead after Time War 4 and be set following the events of Hell Bent. Gallifrey, restored to the universe but in reduced circumstances, attempts to reestablish its standing as a galactic power in a way that won't trigger new conflict. But I think that might have been hard to write a series like that knowing the Master was going to swoop down and reduce it all to ash in one go anyway. I think this can still be done, and probably would be the best possible direction to continue the range. It's not like we know which Gallifrey the Master destroyed -- IE how long local-time exists between Gallifrey's Return and subsequent destruction. It was only a few years i IRL, sure, but could easily be millennia in-universe. Besides, I think we can all very safely assume Chibnall's slapdash destruction of Gallifrey to be retconned sooner rather than later. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 7, 2023 16:01:29 GMT
Had it not been for the TV series re-destroying Gallifrey, I was expecting the range to jump ahead after Time War 4 and be set following the events of Hell Bent. Gallifrey, restored to the universe but in reduced circumstances, attempts to reestablish its standing as a galactic power in a way that won't trigger new conflict. But I think that might have been hard to write a series like that knowing the Master was going to swoop down and reduce it all to ash in one go anyway. I think this can still be done, and probably would be the best possible direction to continue the range. It's not like we know which Gallifrey the Master destroyed -- IE how long local-time exists between Gallifrey's Return and subsequent destruction. It was only a few years i IRL, sure, but could easily be millennia in-universe. Besides, I think we can all very safely assume Chibnall's slapdash destruction of Gallifrey to be retconned sooner rather than later. I'd honestly want it to be Surviving Time Lords and Gallifreyans making a home on a New Planet. But thats just how i would do it |
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Post by Kestrel on Sept 7, 2023 20:04:47 GMT
Well, there are plenty of ways around it. The main thing -- to me, at least -- is just moving past the Time War setting. I love it, I do, but I think it's time to move on.
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