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Post by nucleusofswarm on May 19, 2024 10:31:49 GMT
"Dead Ringers" yesterday had a sketch where the Daleks refuse to fight the Doctor because he's gay and black and then they'll be cancelled by the Woke mob and have to go on Laurence Fox's podcast. They're only prepared to exterminate if nobody ever finds out {Spoiler} and the Doctor points out that with the ratings the way they are, nobody will Ouch! at the punchline. I must admit I'm not helping the ratings but are they really that bad?
Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in...
Your resident industry man is back to explain some things. So, let's get a shift on: 1) The overnights have not accounted for the iPlayer launch numbers. It's just terrestrial. As critic Darren Mooney observed, the Saturday airing is effectively a rerun, not a premiere. 2) The BBC does. not. care. about overnights anymore, and haven't in years, for tv drama shows. The prize is 7 day and 28 days, and if anyone thinks that's an excuse, here's one of TV's biggest writers (and a man many wanted to be showrunner) confirming this is the BBC 's mindset: x.com/jackthorne/status/17595212844409000243) Audience share and ranking also matter. Lest we forget, juggernaut Mr Bates vs The Post Office started small and then exploded later.
In the coming hours, when we get the 7 day, then we will know if the entire strategy has paid off. These are uncharted waters for this series, and a test of iPlayer's ubiquity, and I suspect will provide a far healthier picture. Everyone just relax and have a jammie dodger, or custard cream.
(And now I return to the vortex. Try not to burn anything down!)
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Post by number13 on May 19, 2024 21:25:07 GMT
Ouch! at the punchline. I must admit I'm not helping the ratings but are they really that bad?
Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in...
Your resident industry man is back to explain some things. So, let's get a shift on: 1) The overnights have not accounted for the iPlayer launch numbers. It's just terrestrial. As critic Darren Mooney observed, the Saturday airing is effectively a rerun, not a premiere. 2) The BBC does. not. care. about overnights anymore, and haven't in years, for tv drama shows. The prize is 7 day and 28 days, and if anyone thinks that's an excuse, here's one of TV's biggest writers (and a man many wanted to be showrunner) confirming this is the BBC 's mindset: x.com/jackthorne/status/17595212844409000243) Audience share and ranking also matter. Lest we forget, juggernaut Mr Bates vs The Post Office started small and then exploded later.
In the coming hours, when we get the 7 day, then we will know if the entire strategy has paid off. These are uncharted waters for this series, and a test of iPlayer's ubiquity, and I suspect will provide a far healthier picture. Everyone just relax and have a jammie dodger, or custard cream.
(And now I return to the vortex. Try not to burn anything down!)
Good to hear from you nucleus! (' Contact has been made...' )
That's about what I guessed. Streaming rules! I hardly ever watch anything on broadcast these days except the rolling news channels. Genuinely, I think the last other programme I watched on broadcast was the Coronation, so that's a year ago.
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Post by timleschild on May 20, 2024 16:12:06 GMT
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Post by sherlock on May 20, 2024 17:12:52 GMT
So the show is pretty much back to where it was pre-60th ratings-wise. The crowd drawn by Tennant’s return not sticking around presumably, nor a influx of new viewers for new era.
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Post by timleschild on May 20, 2024 18:21:55 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on May 20, 2024 18:30:24 GMT
What I find interesting is that the midnight iPlayer launches now pretty much show you what the dedicated Doctor Who fanbase is in the UK, as they’re pretty much the difference between the overnights and the 7-day figures.
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Post by timleschild on May 20, 2024 20:32:39 GMT
Less than a couple million dedicated Doctor Who fans.
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Post by shutupbanks on May 20, 2024 22:29:21 GMT
Less than a couple million dedicated Doctor Who fans. Tenth most watched show of the week.
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Post by timleschild on May 20, 2024 22:46:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2024 1:07:41 GMT
Boom was brilliant and 73 Yards is supposed to be another darker ep, and a total winner.
Anyone feel like going with 2 silly eps and not two which had contrast was a bad decision? If someone checks the show out for the first time - as is clearly the Disney goal - wouldn't you want to offer a sampling of the full buffet, not two from the same food section.
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Post by shallacatop on May 22, 2024 6:27:34 GMT
Went to the pictures last night (Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, very good), nice and busy screening and the Season One trailer played. Great to see it, especially given how visually striking the series has been of late. It’s a shame that it was met with quite a few exclaims of “I didn’t know it was back on!”.
It’s purely anecdotal, of course, but I think has been an issue this time round in the UK; promotion has been thin on the ground, especially given the massive push in the US and other Disney+ territories.
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Post by sherlock on May 22, 2024 7:40:26 GMT
Went to the pictures last night (Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, very good), nice and busy screening and the Season One trailer played. Great to see it, especially given how visually striking the series has been of late. It’s a shame that it was met with quite a few exclaims of “I didn’t know it was back on!”. It’s purely anecdotal, of course, but I think has been an issue this time round in the UK; promotion has been thin on the ground, especially given the massive push in the US and other Disney+ territories. Oh been meaning to catch that film. Glad it’s good. I saw the trailer play before Godzilla x Kong a few weeks back (I have no real idea why seeing that movie appealed to me so much, but there’s just something purely entertaining about a giant lizard fighting a giant monkey then fighting another, meaner, giant monkey). Can’t recall if it got much, if any, reaction but then the theatre wasn’t exactly full.
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Post by mark687 on May 22, 2024 11:46:46 GMT
DWM Issue 604
RTD Notes
The intensity of US Promotion
Set Reports from Space-Babies-Boom
Prviews for and hints rather than Spoiler
73 Yards (Eerie and intriguing hints for the rest of the Series)
Dot and Bubble (Similar to a couple of BF stories)
Rouge, The England of Ruby Sunday Empire of Death (Information and Cliff-Hangers that will set Fandom and the Internet ablaze)
Varada Sethu Companion Casting Announcement
Interviews
Jonathan Groff, Susan Twist, Moffatt and Sam Diny (Assistant Composer)
Regards
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Post by timleschild on May 22, 2024 12:52:10 GMT
Went to the pictures last night (Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, very good), nice and busy screening and the Season One trailer played. Great to see it, especially given how visually striking the series has been of late. It’s a shame that it was met with quite a few exclaims of “I didn’t know it was back on!”. It’s purely anecdotal, of course, but I think has been an issue this time round in the UK; promotion has been thin on the ground, especially given the massive push in the US and other Disney+ territories. Yes, all I have seen is the trailer at the cinema. No billboards or anything in public places.
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Post by timleschild on May 22, 2024 15:01:57 GMT
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Post by mark687 on May 22, 2024 15:44:13 GMT
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Post by timleschild on May 22, 2024 16:18:03 GMT
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Post by sherlock on May 22, 2024 16:28:58 GMT
We now have an election in the UK, so the politics angle for this season is suddenly very timely.
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Post by number13 on May 23, 2024 9:45:33 GMT
So the show is pretty much back to where it was pre-60th ratings-wise. The crowd drawn by Tennant’s return not sticking around presumably, nor a influx of new viewers for new era. Apart from Eurovision (and even that seems low to me for a supposedly huge event - one which happens to other people but not me!) all the numbers for the top 10 are surprisingly rubbish imo. Maybe the fact that we have finally had some warm and sunny weather in the UK this May has got people switching off their TVs and doing better things?
Presumably the schedulers know what they're about, but classic Who often used to start in the autumn just as schools went back and evening TV seemed more of an option than it had in summer. (The BBC actually used to have a summer holidays kids' show called 'Why Don't You Switch Off Your TV and Do Something Else' I think - but then I never watched it! )
TV is for the indoor season imo. I'm watching the Chelsea Flower Show coverage here and there because (as people may have noticed) I do like a spot of gardening, but that's it. And I vaguely noticed a man in the rain talking about something yesterday, but didn't listen. Was it anything important?
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Post by bethhigdon on May 23, 2024 16:16:54 GMT
So the show is pretty much back to where it was pre-60th ratings-wise. The crowd drawn by Tennant’s return not sticking around presumably, nor a influx of new viewers for new era. Apart from Eurovision (and even that seems low to me for a supposedly huge event - one which happens to other people but not me!) all the numbers for the top 10 are surprisingly rubbish imo. Maybe the fact that we have finally had some warm and sunny weather in the UK this May has got people switching off their TVs and doing better things?
Presumably the schedulers know what they're about, but classic Who often used to start in the autumn just as schools went back and evening TV seemed more of an option than it had in summer. (The BBC actually used to have a summer holidays kids' show called 'Why Don't You Switch Off Your TV and Do Something Else' I think - but then I never watched it! )
TV is for the indoor season imo. I'm watching the Chelsea Flower Show coverage here and there because (as people may have noticed) I do like a spot of gardening, but that's it. And I vaguely noticed a man in the rain talking about something yesterday, but didn't listen. Was it anything important?
I never watch it anyways but I know there were calls to boycott Eurovision this year for multiple reasons, but how successful it was I don't know.
Especially since the normal rating system becomes increasingly obsolete. I know several marketing departments in the animation industry have been pulling their hair out these past few years as they no longer have a viable way to gauge audience reaction and therefore no idea what merch to push or pull.
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