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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2024 13:25:51 GMT
No idea what Nick said about the review, first Ive heard of this! As a podcaster he should only care about the positive -that pod is for PR. But as a creative AND head honcho he needs to see bigger pictures. It was the regen reviews on Facebook of the big finish group The guy ended up changing the review But it seriously left a bad impression That's BS if true. A reviewer who alters a review because the reviwee wants it done? No credibility, that person didn't want to burn bridges (free review copies?) and can't be taken seriously if they backed down. Only exception is a factual error, of course. Those can be amended, though should always be done with a note about the article being altered. And Nick is abusing his position if he leant on the person to make them feel they had to do so.
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Post by theillusiveman on May 3, 2024 14:16:18 GMT
It was the regen reviews on Facebook of the big finish group The guy ended up changing the review But it seriously left a bad impression That's BS if true. A reviewer who alters a review because the reviwee wants it done? No credibility, that person didn't want to burn bridges (free review copies?) and can't be taken seriously if they backed down. Only exception is a factual error, of course. Those can be amended, though should always be done with a note about the article being altered. And Nick is abusing his position if he leant on the person to make them feel they had to do so. the post and the next page goes into detail
it makes me worried if reviewers are afraid to give constructive criticism to a product, with the cost of living and the price of audios increasing it makes it hard to know which audios to get.
we all want big finish to succeeded and be the best that it can be and has been. with the reception seen on social media towards the last day and the response on here i do feel worried that Big Finish or the creative executives are not listening or wont listen to the criticism of the audios, honestly if i hadn't prordered The last day bundle way in advance i probably would have cancelled the preorder.
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Post by mark687 on May 31, 2024 14:12:53 GMT
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Post by sherlock on May 31, 2024 14:22:17 GMT
I don’t normally place much stock in Big Finish’s trailers, but boy does that make it sound like Part 2 is exactly as messy as Part 1 was.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 5, 2024 20:02:50 GMT
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 5, 2024 20:36:58 GMT
That's BS if true. A reviewer who alters a review because the reviwee wants it done? No credibility, that person didn't want to burn bridges (free review copies?) and can't be taken seriously if they backed down. Only exception is a factual error, of course. Those can be amended, though should always be done with a note about the article being altered. And Nick is abusing his position if he leant on the person to make them feel they had to do so. the post and the next page goes into detail
it makes me worried if reviewers are afraid to give constructive criticism to a product, with the cost of living and the price of audios increasing it makes it hard to know which audios to get.
we all want big finish to succeeded and be the best that it can be and has been. with the reception seen on social media towards the last day and the response on here i do feel worried that Big Finish or the creative executives are not listening or wont listen to the criticism of the audios, honestly if i hadn't prordered The last day bundle way in advance i probably would have cancelled the preorder.
Nick in particular has always been passionately protective of the property and of Team Big Finish. This passion can, at times, result in him acting before thinking when it comes to less-than-favourable reviews of upcoming products. I think it was when The Ravagers was being released and a lot of fandom was less than impressed with the final product (but supportive of some parts) Nick came in firing all cannons and pulling reviews/asking websites to pull reviews all over the shop. Which is in my opinion his right to request but not insist upon. A company like BF succeeds or fails based on reviews, and its major product (lisenced Doctor Who products) is judged by the liscensor by the reviews, the BBC came very close at times to pulling the plug, negative reviews can be the last nail in the coffin and a lot of people lose their jobs. I can see why people might be sensitive to negative reviews. Not that constructively worded criticism is a bad thing or something that would destroy the company, but if BF endured the sort of Bowlstreak reviews TV Who is getting it’d be done like last week’s dinner.
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Post by Star Platinum on Jun 5, 2024 21:51:59 GMT
I was hoping for this week, I’ll have to ask Sylvester McCoy if he has any teases for it when I see him on Saturday.
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Post by Kestrel on Jun 5, 2024 22:56:29 GMT
What, exactly, was it that made the first set so messy? I'm not planning to listen 'til it's all out, so I can go at my own pace.
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Post by melkur on Jun 6, 2024 0:14:26 GMT
The day before I'm due to go on holiday. Now, do I listen to it day-of-release or on the way to/from the airport the following day...? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6343532/images/ZBDvOFPmQgNwxFXLpuoD.gif)
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Post by 20fridge on Jun 6, 2024 6:10:45 GMT
What, exactly, was it that made the first set so messy? I'm not planning to listen 'til it's all out, so I can go at my own pace. The story opens in media res. It has a large cast of characters spread out over an almost equally large number of times/places. There are multiple versions of some characters. The story jumps between the characters and locations rather frequently. New threads are introduced each episode, and very few converge until the end. The best way I can describe the story so far, is like "The Wedding of River Song" on acid.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 6, 2024 8:28:30 GMT
That's BS if true. A reviewer who alters a review because the reviwee wants it done? No credibility, that person didn't want to burn bridges (free review copies?) and can't be taken seriously if they backed down. Only exception is a factual error, of course. Those can be amended, though should always be done with a note about the article being altered. And Nick is abusing his position if he leant on the person to make them feel they had to do so. the post and the next page goes into detail
it makes me worried if reviewers are afraid to give constructive criticism to a product, with the cost of living and the price of audios increasing it makes it hard to know which audios to get.
we all want big finish to succeeded and be the best that it can be and has been. with the reception seen on social media towards the last day and the response on here i do feel worried that Big Finish or the creative executives are not listening or wont listen to the criticism of the audios, honestly if i hadn't prordered The last day bundle way in advance i probably would have cancelled the preorder.
As a general point, I think a lot of these so-called "reviewers" in social media, should be more honest and call themselves influencers rather than reviewers, given that they get free stuff in exchange for good reviews.
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Post by timleschild on Jun 6, 2024 9:50:42 GMT
the post and the next page goes into detail
it makes me worried if reviewers are afraid to give constructive criticism to a product, with the cost of living and the price of audios increasing it makes it hard to know which audios to get.
we all want big finish to succeeded and be the best that it can be and has been. with the reception seen on social media towards the last day and the response on here i do feel worried that Big Finish or the creative executives are not listening or wont listen to the criticism of the audios, honestly if i hadn't prordered The last day bundle way in advance i probably would have cancelled the preorder.
Nick in particular has always been passionately protective of the property and of Team Big Finish. This passion can, at times, result in him acting before thinking when it comes to less-than-favourable reviews of upcoming products. I think it was when The Ravagers was being released and a lot of fandom was less than impressed with the final product (but supportive of some parts) Nick came in firing all cannons and pulling reviews/asking websites to pull reviews all over the shop. Which is in my opinion his right to request but not insist upon. A company like BF succeeds or fails based on reviews, and its major product (lisenced Doctor Who products) is judged by the liscensor by the reviews, the BBC came very close at times to pulling the plug, negative reviews can be the last nail in the coffin and a lot of people lose their jobs. I can see why people might be sensitive to negative reviews. Not that constructively worded criticism is a bad thing or something that would destroy the company, but if BF endured the sort of Bowlstreak reviews TV Who is getting it’d be done like last week’s dinner. I don't think he has any right to ask for reviews to be pulled, unless they are factually inaccurate or contain defamatory comments. He is putting a product out there, like any movie, tv, show, record etc not everyone will like it. Briggs just needs to be thicker skinned.
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Post by martinw8686 on Jun 6, 2024 11:14:21 GMT
PLACE YOUR BETS! HOW LITTLE WILL THE 7TH DOCTOR APPEAR IN PART 2 OF HIS OWN LAST DAY.
MY BET IS ONE 30 MIN EPISODE AND A HANDFUL OF BRIEF CAMEOS.
HIS INVOLVEMENT IN SET ONE WAS INSULTINGLY SMALL.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 6, 2024 11:20:37 GMT
Cover and 1st Cast Details Online Textless Cover Regards mark687 Seven's hair doesn't look long enough if this is meant to be immediately preceding the TV Movie
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Post by melkur on Jun 6, 2024 16:29:39 GMT
Well, now I'm intrigued as to who OgronOgron1 is... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6343532/images/ZBDvOFPmQgNwxFXLpuoD.gif)
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Post by mark687 on Jun 6, 2024 18:17:51 GMT
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 25, 2024 8:13:58 GMT
(This release will include a bonus audiobook: Fond Memories by Alison Lawson, to follow.)
TRAILER
Out Now ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6343532/images/ZBDvOFPmQgNwxFXLpuoD.gif)
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Post by mark687 on Jun 25, 2024 13:58:22 GMT
It works better then Part1 (still not sure why the whole thing is 12 EPs long) it leans into the Multi-verse at stake angle probably too hard for my taste, where it should been more of what I think the main intent is a final resolution and farewell between Ace and 7th (which happens more than once and Slv and Sophie nail it every time.) Lisa and Bonnie, Geoffrey and Philip have fun with what they've got Oh and BF have another very little cheeky nod from them to the Visual verse this time the TV Movie Regards mark687
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Post by dannybl on Jun 25, 2024 14:35:31 GMT
well that was a marathon!
Could have been done on two discs without all the confusing multiverse stuff. Was expecting the final Seventh Doctor story to be Gallifrey, Skaro, Daleks, Master killed!
The beginning of Ep 10 was hilarious and where everything comes together finally. Loved the Mel and Benny duo
Lead in to the TV Movie is literally two scenes in the final episode!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2024 9:08:06 GMT
Tried 2 eps - it's so impossibly convoluted. I thought it might be less so than the first. It's just more of the first.
Ep. 1 with Mel talking to an AI with the Doctor's voice....just technobabble BS about creating paradoxes for 25 mins. Then Ep 2 is just the same as the first box - Ace manipulating Cassie and Hex in their alternative lives to do things to convince them about...oh who cares.
Who the hell thought a sequel to Quantum Probability Engine from the Monthly Range was a good idea for The Last Day of the Seventh Doctor?
I know others have said it but in the REAL Universe, there's enough baggage between The Doctor and Ace to justify a story. To do this as one big soup of forgettable characters and make it a sequel to half-forgotten stories? No. I'm all for high concept but it takes a special writer to pull it off. You wouldn't want RTD writing River's arc. You wouldn't want Moffat writing Rose's family dynamic. Writers have strengths and weaknesses. This plays into ALL Fitton and Adam's worst.
And this SHOULD be accessible. Should be a "good jumping on". Non-BF listeners know Ace and Seven. It should have been written so they can pick it up, maybe a Sylv fan. Colin's Last Adventure was written to be friendly for the newbs and it got some listeners into Big Finish. This would have them running from the hills.
It's not just bad for the event of The Last Day - it's bad for Big Finish in general. So much is just noise.
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