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Post by timleschild on Jul 12, 2024 22:15:04 GMT
Plus it will be very nice to hear Jo Martin on audio. This is the most interesting part of the release... The only interesting part. But I will wait until her boxset, well it depends on the stories.
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Post by enofa on Jul 14, 2024 17:35:14 GMT
Tim Foley and Benny makes me almost interested in this.
I think what pro-dartboard comments are failing to understand is the way these things come together: it’s already been stated by writers that they were given a list of things to include before they started writing. That means it’s all about crossovers and not about the drama.
Bringing in characters from elsewhere in the fictional universe can be brilliant, if they have a reason to be there. If the characters can bring out interesting sides of the Doctor / companion, if they can drive the plot forward, if they have interesting thematic links that help deepen the meaning behind the story. Benny meeting Nine was great, it was one of the few 9DAs which leant heavily into the Time War and brought out a vulnerable, almost cowardly side of the Doctor which resulted in a very original story. Throwing together all the random bits of Terry Nation trivia into Dalek Universe ended up creating a brilliantly formed world that felt very fleshed out, while River’s appearance made sense of the fact Eleven has clearly met her a few times in The Time of Angels. These are taking elements of the Doctor Who universe and bringing them together to flesh out what exists and shine new lights on them. A grab bag of random characters who have nothing to do with each other coming together says no more than “what if X met Y?”, so unless your story is astonishingly good, the false, contrived nature of it just really stands out.
As for “that’s what Once and Future is about,” there’s definitely truth there, nobody should be surprised that this is the case for the coda. On the other hand, it doesn’t meant it doesn’t still warrant criticism: when they make something bad seven times, it doesn’t let them off the hook when they do it an eighth time.
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Post by noneofyourbusiness on Jul 14, 2024 17:57:38 GMT
Tim Foley and Benny makes me almost interested in this. I think what pro-dartboard comments are failing to understand is the way these things come together: it’s already been stated by writers that they were given a list of things to include before they started writing. That means it’s all about crossovers and not about the drama. Having been given 'X meets Y' as a rough premise doesn't mean you can't write a dramatic story about it.
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Post by enofa on Jul 15, 2024 19:18:56 GMT
I never said it didn’t. But it clearly makes it a lot harder. The Artist at the End of Time seemed to be pretty popular, and has some very powerful ideas. However, common opinion seems to be that most of the X meets Y stories don’t really go further than just X meets Y. So that, combined with the knowledge that they ARE contrived, as well as an abundance of them in recent years, is very likely to make people wary or weary or both when another is announced - especially when it’s a notable event like Jo Martin’s first Big Finish story.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 22, 2024 11:13:23 GMT
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Post by timleschild on Jul 22, 2024 11:49:53 GMT
I love Tim Foley's work but yet again we have the typical BF line about how this is standalone (even though its linked to a big multi-release story). Another great jumping on point for new listeners?
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