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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 10, 2024 9:08:50 GMT
The Time War.
Dealing with the repercussions of degeneration, the Doctor has a limited window of time to evade capture, recruit old allies, wage a war, and find out what’s really going on. A warrior is being hunted by a mysterious stranger in a TARDIS. A rogue agent has been assigned a mission to eliminate a dangerous foe. This is a fight between a war criminal and a fugitive. A fight between Doctors.
***PLEASE NOTE: this Special Edition release can now only be purchased as part of a Download bundle. Click on the bundle button above for more details. If you wish to purchase this release as a stand-alone story, you can find the standard edition here.***
Jo Martin (The Fugitive Doctor) Jonathon Carley (The War Doctor) Lisa Bowerman (Bernice Summerfield) Nicholas Khan (Shalvar) Chase Masterson (Vienna Salvatori) Richard Reed (Various Voices) Imogen Stubbs (Queen Elizabeth)
Producer David Richardson said: “The main story of Once and Future is over, but this is an afterward, a final chapter, which unites two incarnations who have been lost to the Doctor’s consciousness. It’s the Fugitive vs War Doctor, with some old friends and foes joining the fray. And, significantly, this is Jo Martin’s first performance for Big Finish – welcome aboard, Jo, you are absolutely brilliant.” ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6343532/images/ZBDvOFPmQgNwxFXLpuoD.gif)
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 10, 2024 9:16:27 GMT
"Jonathon Carley
We hidden incarnations always turn up fashionably late. This was a bonkers one to record. Jo Martin, Benny, Voord, Queen Elizabeth the first, Tim Foley.
And just you wait until you find out who or what the War Doctor has been travelling with."
who... or what?!
Interesting !
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Post by timleschild on Jul 10, 2024 9:37:02 GMT
We haven't got the Fugitive Doctor's series yet but already we have them meeting other characters from the Whoniverse. Not a good indication of what BF have in store for the character.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 10, 2024 9:55:30 GMT
The concept of those two incarnations sparring is more than enough on its own. Throwing in the dartboard approach that plagued Once & Future is far less appealing. I’m not convinced this will be a substantial and satisfying venture with just an hour’s running time.
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Post by dannybl on Jul 10, 2024 9:59:11 GMT
The dartboard-ness of this range is hilarious, especially since its still there!
Still trying to make Vienna 'happen' bless em
And is that DARK GALLIFREY?
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Post by ollychops on Jul 10, 2024 10:00:49 GMT
Yeah, I’ll admit just having War vs Fugitive is fine in itself but then you’ve got Benny, Vienna, Queen Liz I and the Voord… seems like overkill. Still, nice to have some Fugitive content.
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 10, 2024 10:10:49 GMT
Hard pass
The story already concluded and it feels like it’s been artificially extended
And also anything from that chibball era is not going anywhere my collection so atleast i get to save money so every cloud has a silver lining
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 12:01:35 GMT
Yes, of course it's overkill as was the rest of the story, but I subscribed to the full package and I'm quite looking forward to it, mainly because we'll be getting some more Jo Martin. So that's a big positive.
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Post by melkur on Jul 10, 2024 12:23:40 GMT
Whilst I don't know if I would strictly buy this release on it's own, I'm also subscribed to the full run of this, and am at least interested enough in seeing where this hodgepodge is going...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 12:54:47 GMT
I hate that Jo Martin's debut will be another cramped affair - The War Doctor, Benny and Vienna? Really?
Once And Future has been more of an attempt to tempt listeners into other ranges it seems, as everyone has had exposure. The ultimate crossover crap. BF are NEVER at their best with a crowded bunch of established characters. It cramps the story too much.
War Doctor is also getting over exposed now.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 10, 2024 13:39:40 GMT
While this sounds more involved then "A little Wrap up" its an intriguing mash up and its great that Benny's in play.
Regards
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Post by Star Platinum on Jul 10, 2024 14:14:40 GMT
Colour me intrigued.
The interplay between the two doctors should be good. There are parallels running between them are there to be exploited.
I will never say no to more Benny personally, though in retrospect her omission from the previous entries should have been glaring.
I think the Voord are an interesting choice, they’re a fairly under developed villain, which will give the writer flexibility.
Last, it’s a Tim Foley script, so I’m very confident it will be excellent.
I’m a little surprised by the dartboard complaints. Once and Future represents 60 years of Doctor Who and the spin offs that sprung from it at Big Finish. With not having to justify character aging or appearances, are you really that surprised that they’ve taken elements from across those 60 years?
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Post by sherlock on Jul 10, 2024 14:39:56 GMT
I’m a little surprised by the dartboard complaints. Once and Future represents 60 years of Doctor Who and the spin offs that sprung from it at Big Finish. With not having to justify character aging or appearances, are you really that surprised that they’ve taken elements from across those 60 years? The problem with Once and Future is the dartboard is literally all there is to it. There’s no drama, barely even any real plot - just writers constructing scenarios to accommodate the producers’ random grab bag of characters. It’s just lacking in any substance, which is admittedly true of most anniversary fare but they’re not 8 hours long so don’t wear thin in same way. Maybe the Coda will defy the trend. But that’s why people are cynical about it.
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Post by relativetime on Jul 10, 2024 15:23:14 GMT
I pretty much agree with a lot of what's already been said. Fugitive vs War is an idea that should really sell itself, but now we have to throw Benny and Vienna and the Voord and Queen Elizabeth I into the mix and it has me more apprehensive than I otherwise would have been. Still, I have this preordered anyways and I'm still excited to finally get some Fugitive Doctor stories after what feels like forever. Fingers crossed I guess.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 10, 2024 16:23:48 GMT
Just to put the whole 'dartboard' thing into perspective, is anybody reading IDW's Star Trek comics, constructed on the same principles:
"Star Trek" features Sisko (DS9), Data and Crusher (TNG), Scotty (TOS) and Tom Paris (Voyager), plus Worf (TNG/DS9) till he got his own spinoff "Star Trek: Defiant", which also features Spock (TOS), B'elenna Torres (Voyager), and Lore and Sela (both TNG baddies).
I think BF do their teamups in a comparatively modest way!
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Post by timleschild on Jul 10, 2024 17:04:40 GMT
I think BF do their teamups in a comparatively modest way!
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Post by wolfdog95 on Jul 10, 2024 19:03:23 GMT
Unpopular opinion but I don't have a problem with this. I love Carley's War Doctor and Jo Martin's Doctor, so sign me up.
I'm largely not against the dartboard format. Fundamentally for a franchise like Doctor Who, with a rich and varied wealth of characters throughout its history, it does it a disservice to not bring different aspects, eras and corners of the franchise together.
At the very least, I find it infinitely preferable to a certain writer making the main focus of an "anniversary special" be the cast and characters he created.
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Post by dasmaniac on Jul 10, 2024 20:18:40 GMT
To be fair, the grab bag of random characters has basically been the premise of this series. It's not meant to be anything groundbreaking.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jul 10, 2024 20:31:31 GMT
The Forgotten versus the Unacknowledged - with Voord and Timeboats and all sorts of weirdness …. Works for me.
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Post by muddyviolet on Jul 10, 2024 22:07:03 GMT
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