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Post by mark687 on Jul 22, 2024 15:03:56 GMT
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Post by timleschild on Jul 22, 2024 15:11:07 GMT
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Post by muddyviolet on Jul 22, 2024 15:18:34 GMT
Sounds like it could be a Vashta Narada story?
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Post by relativetime on Jul 22, 2024 15:32:21 GMT
Steven is one of my favorite companions thanks to Big Finish and I've always been vocal about my love for Jacqueline Rayner's writing, so I'm at least curious about giving this a shot.
But yeah, I'm absolutely getting tired of the trope of bringing back old... well, old companions and I do feel as though I have to get on my soapbox once again to rant about it a little. In this case, for it to happen immediately after the last set did the same thing and after the Second Doctor Adventures just did the same trope and while the Third Doctor Adventures is continuing with the same trope - it just feels like the magic is gone. I'd much rather Big Finish ditched the "ongoing story arc" and just told a straightforward Season 3 story with Steven and Dodo as they were on television. We've already had some amazing reunions for these companions at Big Finish besides and as a Companion Chronicles fangirl, it almost feels disrespectful to once again plunder and even undercut what that range accomplished so well just to redo it in full-cast.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 22, 2024 16:25:36 GMT
BFs new trope, bring back companions when they're old.
Superfluous, isn't it? If Katy Manning and Fraser Hines are young enough-sounding to appear in "Deathworld", why do they have to play their actual ages in the main ranges?
(Oh, and since we've already had old Steven in the CCs, The Five Companions, and TftT, do we *really* need him again?)
At least if they shook it up a bit. Older Doctor meets older companion, fair enough. But no-older Doctor meets older companion doesn't strike me as a worthwhile experiment, and certainly not a regular occurence.
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Post by timleschild on Jul 22, 2024 16:47:49 GMT
BFs new trope, bring back companions when they're old.
Superfluous, isn't it? If Katy Manning and Fraser Hines are young enough-sounding to appear in "Deathworld", why do they have to play their actual ages in the main ranges? Yes, but I thought one of the reasons was the actors finding it difficult to sound young. Just stick to the recasts! |
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 22, 2024 17:07:52 GMT
They’re really not helping to sell this new era for the First Doctor. We’ve got two leads who sound absolutely nothing like their on screen counterparts to the point where it’s difficult to reconcile. And now we’ve got them opposite the original cast as their older selves, and for seemingly no creative reason, which makes it all the more distant from the era it’s attempting to be part of.
Between this, Bradley going Unbound and Carole Ann only doing Susan’s War, it just doesn’t feel like we have the First Doctor at Big Finish any more. And that just seems wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2024 17:56:48 GMT
Well I'm enthused! It's true that bringing back an older Steven is this box-set's gimmick (every set must have one, it seems) but I like the three regulars being reunited - after all, they all had abrupt TV departures. Also, Peter Purves has gone on record saying he'd like to revisit his character post-Savages (have BF done that already? Can't remember), so I'm all for it.
My reservation? The writer. Jac Raynor has written some good stuff, but most of it I've not been a fan of. I'm getting this because I think Stephen Noonan's First Doctor is great (and Lauren and Peter are too), but I just hope the story's a good one.
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Post by ollychops on Jul 22, 2024 18:52:58 GMT
I’ll be skipping this one. I’m bored of “companion reunites with the Doctor when they’re older” trope. Can’t this have just been set during Season 3 when they’re all travelling together?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jul 22, 2024 20:16:17 GMT
I’ll be skipping this one. I’m bored of “companion reunites with the Doctor when they’re older” trope. Can’t this have just been set during Season 3 when they’re all travelling together? The fact it’s not suggest to me that PP requested Steven be “as old as I am now, please” when the idea was pitched to him. |
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Post by timleschild on Jul 22, 2024 21:06:45 GMT
I’ll be skipping this one. I’m bored of “companion reunites with the Doctor when they’re older” trope. Can’t this have just been set during Season 3 when they’re all travelling together? The fact it’s not suggest to me that PP requested Steven be “as old as I am now, please” when the idea was pitched to him. he should be grateful for the work not making demands like a diva! harrumph... |
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Post by Alastair on Jul 22, 2024 21:35:39 GMT
Let’s maybe steer clear of character judgements — even tongue-in-cheek ones — while this remains pure speculation, yeah?
I agree we’re seeing too much of this type of story too fast, so it’s hard to get enthused over the premise alone. I’m enjoying the range, though, and I love what Big Finish (particularly Simon Guerrier) have done with Steven over the years.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jul 23, 2024 7:19:35 GMT
The fact it’s not suggest to me that PP requested Steven be “as old as I am now, please” when the idea was pitched to him. he should be grateful for the work not making demands like a diva! harrumph... Yes, one of the most highly regarded people in the industry is a “diva” … you utter pancake. |
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Post by noneofyourbusiness on Jul 28, 2024 20:15:41 GMT
Also, Peter Purves has gone on record saying he'd like to revisit his character post-Savages (have BF done that already? Can't remember), so I'm all for it. Yes, we saw older Steven in The Companion Chronicles. I'm all for a follow-up to that. |
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Post by enofa on Jul 29, 2024 21:29:09 GMT
I do understand the actors not wanting to / being up to playing their younger selves anymore, but given that Davison has always sounded tremendously older on audio, Colin now sounds like a cross between Bill Oddie and David Attenborough, and BF thought Dudman’s Capaldi impression was good enough to release, I don’t think having some companions sounding older is going to single-handedly break the reality of it. If it was a boxset of Doctors revisiting older companions, or even a single Doctor realising he never checked up on anyone and making up for lost time, I don’t think it’d bother me too much, but when these are becoming the default for the main releases, it just ends up feeling tiresome.
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Post by Kestrel on Jul 31, 2024 17:49:05 GMT
What happened to the idea that the 1DAs would alternate between Noonan and Bradley? Was that only ever fan speculation, after all?
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Post by enofa on Jul 31, 2024 20:19:21 GMT
BF said they’d be doing more Bradleys which I think caused a lot of the speculation, then possibly the Noonans were popular enough (or at least sounded more authentic) that by the time Bradley and co were free again, they decided to make them Unbound.
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Post by cwm on Jul 31, 2024 21:19:38 GMT
BF always said when it was announced the revamped First Doctor Adventures range would feature a new actor that the intention was to do more with Bradley. AFAIK nowhere did they say that Bradley and Noonan would share the same range.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 31, 2024 21:49:52 GMT
The placeholder image featuring both Hartnell & Bradley when they moved towards dedicated Doctor ranges probably didn’t help to avert any confusion.
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