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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 25, 2020 6:33:53 GMT
Last Of Us 2, shocking game sluggish combat mechanics, Naughty Dog have killed my intrest in continuing to play this game because of a certain characters death which has been appallingly handled.
I loved the first game, played it multi times but won't be continuing with this now.
Haven't been this angry since The Last Jedi.
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Post by Digi on Jun 25, 2020 7:20:48 GMT
You're only robbing yourself. The story is still about them.
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Post by polly on Jun 25, 2020 18:35:33 GMT
Jak 3 - I forgot how much this game focused on driving dune buggies around that don't actually handle very well. Just as good as the first two outside of that, but overall a step down.
Alien: Isolation - Very, very good. One of the most tense and atmospheric horror games I've played in quite a long time. I just hope it lasts, you know? Like sometimes developers get lazy with the back end of the game, or it goes on long enough you can shatter the illusion and understand how to manipulate the game. Don't want the xenomorph to become "Oh, it's you again."
I want to preserve this suspense all the way down the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 1:46:00 GMT
Jak 3 - I forgot how much this game focused on driving dune buggies around that don't actually handle very well. Just as good as the first two outside of that, but overall a step down. Another victim of the "rushed for Christmas" push for releases that was going on back then ( Ratchet & Clank 3 were hit likewise, from memory). Still, they do well with the resources they have and the Wasteland feels like a nice extension of the world that brought us Haven City.
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Post by theotherjosh on Jun 26, 2020 2:41:53 GMT
Been playing a lot of games lately. Maneater: Someone described it as "Grand Theft Auto, but you're a shark", which is not far off. Goofy open-world game with funny narration from Chris Parnell and a cheeky sense of humor. Monster Train: This is quite a fun game! Kind of a deckbuilding roguelike, which is my current favorite type of game. City of Heroes: I'm playing this on and off again since its return. I'll level a character to 50 and get the incarnate skills and then lose interest. Trying out a sentinel this time around. Oninaki: This is a tricky one, guys. Same studio as I am Setsuna. It's hilariously depressing. Lovely looking game. Like a watercolor painting. Some of the folks who worked on Chrono Trigger helped develop it and it has much the same feel, gameplaywise Ever see Dead Like Me? You play a kind of psychopomp like the characters in the show. You're trying to get ghosts to move on so they can enter the cycle of reincarnation. {Spoiler}The first mission was encountering the ghost of a little boy. The grief his parents feel at his passing is preventing him from moving on.
Your solution is TO MURDER HIS PARENTS.
Also, there are already some hints that the reincarnation cycle is bogus, which makes the whole thing even darker. It's bleak, but intriguing. I think I'll like it if I can endure it.
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Post by polly on Jun 26, 2020 18:40:21 GMT
Jak 3 - I forgot how much this game focused on driving dune buggies around that don't actually handle very well. Just as good as the first two outside of that, but overall a step down. Another victim of the "rushed for Christmas" push for releases that was going on back then ( Ratchet & Clank 3 were hit likewise, from memory). Still, they do well with the resources they have and the Wasteland feels like a nice extension of the world that brought us Haven City. I vaguely remember hearing that about Up Your Arsenal but having played that recently as well, I think it turned out better than Jak 3. It's not all bad by any means, but Jak II had a much more varied bunch of missions, especially early on. Ah, well. I kinda wish there could be a happy medium between a rushed annual schedule, and the nightmare we have now where game development takes closer to a decade than not, and you're lucky to get one entry in a series per console.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 19:59:35 GMT
Another victim of the "rushed for Christmas" push for releases that was going on back then ( Ratchet & Clank 3 were hit likewise, from memory). Still, they do well with the resources they have and the Wasteland feels like a nice extension of the world that brought us Haven City. I vaguely remember hearing that about Up Your Arsenal but having played that recently as well, I think it turned out better than Jak 3. It's not all bad by any means, but Jak II had a much more varied bunch of missions, especially early on. Ah, well. I kinda wish there could be a happy medium between a rushed annual schedule, and the nightmare we have now where game development takes closer to a decade than not, and you're lucky to get one entry in a series per console. Yeah, that'd be nice. I think that's a happy medium struck more with indie developers than AAA titles nowadays. It's funny, because both games are really good. You'd have no idea about the hurried production for either playing them for the first time. The only thing that'd really tip it one way or the other are the little things like Jak 3's storyline being a bit rougher round the edges than Jak II was. Veger's a great character, for instance, but there's this odd expectation we should recognise him from the word "go". I think Up Your Arsenal dodged that problem because much of what was dummied out ended up being expanded mini-games (stuff that ended up being incorporated into the Future trilogy).
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Post by polly on Jun 26, 2020 20:21:59 GMT
Yeah, that'd be nice. I think that's a happy medium struck more with indie developers than AAA titles nowadays. It's funny, because both games are really good. You'd have no idea about the hurried production for either playing them for the first time. The only thing that'd really tip it one way or the other are the little things like Jak 3's storyline being a bit rougher round the edges than Jak II was. Veger's a great character, for instance, but there's this odd expectation we should recognise him from the word "go". I think Up Your Arsenal dodged that problem because much of what was dummied out ended up being expanded mini-games (stuff that ended up being incorporated into the Future trilogy). Yeah, that's a good point, the only things I noticed missing from UYA were extras like ship combat and races and stuff. Jak 3 kinda has a general sloppiness. Though like I said, I think things are much improved when you get a break from driving around the desert. Still a worthwhile conclusion to the trilogy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 0:23:17 GMT
Yeah, that'd be nice. I think that's a happy medium struck more with indie developers than AAA titles nowadays. It's funny, because both games are really good. You'd have no idea about the hurried production for either playing them for the first time. The only thing that'd really tip it one way or the other are the little things like Jak 3's storyline being a bit rougher round the edges than Jak II was. Veger's a great character, for instance, but there's this odd expectation we should recognise him from the word "go". I think Up Your Arsenal dodged that problem because much of what was dummied out ended up being expanded mini-games (stuff that ended up being incorporated into the Future trilogy). Yeah, that's a good point, the only things I noticed missing from UYA were extras like ship combat and races and stuff. Jak 3 kinda has a general sloppiness. Though like I said, I think things are much improved when you get a break from driving around the desert. Still a worthwhile conclusion to the trilogy. Oh, definitely. I'm tempted to dust off my PS2 and go back to play them now, I'm feeling nostalgic.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 27, 2020 6:25:25 GMT
You're only robbing yourself. The story is still about them. The stealth is shocking, the combat mechanics clunky , the characters are all unlikable especially Elle who just seems pis.ed off & angry even before that scene ii don't feel robbed because that character is why i loved the first game & there was plenty more they could've done with that character. Nah no longer interested in this franchise, I'll what for Ghosts next month. Cheers Naughty Dog thanks for breaking my heart least made most my money back selling the steelbook.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 27, 2020 7:54:17 GMT
If this thread was started in the early-mid 90's I would have responded with : All the Mortal Kombats - Doom - Quake - Castle Wolfenstein - Prince Of Persia Then the arthritis kicked in around Mortal Kombat 4 and I had to unfortunately stop playing for hours and hours on end.
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Post by Whovitt on Jun 27, 2020 10:57:22 GMT
You're only robbing yourself. The story is still about them. The stealth is shocking, the combat mechanics clunky , the characters are all unlikable especially Elle who just seems pis.ed off & angry even before that scene ii don't feel robbed because that character is why i loved the first game & there was plenty more they could've done with that character. Nah no longer interested in this franchise, I'll what for Ghosts next month. Cheers Naughty Dog thanks for breaking my heart least made most my money back selling the steelbook. To be fair, if you continued the plot you'd understand why she's acting the way she is. You pretty much have to get to the very end to get all of the backstory filled in, and it makes everything that happens all that more tragic. If you're not interested in continuing though I know I'm not going to convince you. I just think it's worth sticking through one whole play through just to get a real sense of what's actually going on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 11:15:38 GMT
If this thread was started in the early-mid 90's I would have responded with : All the Mortal Kombats - Doom - Quake - Castle Wolfenstein - Prince Of Persia Then the arthritis kicked in around Mortal Kombat 4 and I had to unfortunately stop playing for hours and hours on end. *sweeps hands* Fᴀᴛᴀʟɪᴛʏ. Sounds like a lot of the classics. Did you ever get to play Strife? It's a PC shooter using the classic Doom engine with some rudimentary roleplaying elements. Worth checking out if you've got Steam or GoG.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 27, 2020 12:33:58 GMT
If this thread was started in the early-mid 90's I would have responded with : All the Mortal Kombats - Doom - Quake - Castle Wolfenstein - Prince Of Persia Then the arthritis kicked in around Mortal Kombat 4 and I had to unfortunately stop playing for hours and hours on end. *sweeps hands* Fᴀᴛᴀʟɪᴛʏ. Sounds like a lot of the classics. Did you ever get to play Strife? It's a PC shooter using the classic Doom engine with some rudimentary roleplaying elements. Worth checking out if you've got Steam or GoG. Nope, never played Strife :-(
I think we still have all the original product boxes from the games, I still have some 5 1/4 floppy disks around somewhere.. Physical
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Jun 27, 2020 13:12:04 GMT
Another victim of the "rushed for Christmas" push for releases that was going on back then ( Ratchet & Clank 3 were hit likewise, from memory). Still, they do well with the resources they have and the Wasteland feels like a nice extension of the world that brought us Haven City. I vaguely remember hearing that about Up Your Arsenal but having played that recently as well, I think it turned out better than Jak 3. It's not all bad by any means, but Jak II had a much more varied bunch of missions, especially early on. Ah, well. I agree that Jak II was the better game, but I did love the way Jak 3 was constantly switching up game-play styles. In a way, they perfected it so much with Jak II, that all they really could do was tack extra bits on-top. (Literally in the case of the gun mods.) Kinda the same case with Sly 3.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jun 27, 2020 20:40:20 GMT
Don't read replies in case you haven't finished TLOU2.
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Post by grinch on Jun 27, 2020 20:48:24 GMT
Don't read replies in case you haven't finished TLOU2. Yeah... it’s definitely not gone down well has it? What did you think of it masterdoctor?
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Post by masterdoctor on Jun 27, 2020 20:52:12 GMT
Don't read replies in case you haven't finished TLOU2. Yeah... it’s definitely not gone well has it? What did you think of it masterdoctor? I loved it, and am doing a second play through to get the plat, but I also appreciate that it's been divisive and people don't like it. What I don't back is an almost entitlement of fandoms, in this case TLOU fandom, to have creators cave in and, like Druckmann said, pander to their expectations. I also believe people would have had a lot better of a time with the game had it not been massively spoiled weeks ago.
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Post by polly on Jun 28, 2020 0:21:26 GMT
I vaguely remember hearing that about Up Your Arsenal but having played that recently as well, I think it turned out better than Jak 3. It's not all bad by any means, but Jak II had a much more varied bunch of missions, especially early on. Ah, well. I agree that Jak II was the better game, but I did love the way Jak 3 was constantly switching up game-play styles. In a way, they perfected it so much with Jak II, that all they really could do was tack extra bits on-top. (Literally in the case of the gun mods.) Kinda the same case with Sly 3. Maybe Jak 3 just front-loaded a lot of the desert driving because I felt as though there wasn't much switching so far. I just beat Veger's big robot, so I think the game is going to open up more from here, if I remember right.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 3:59:56 GMT
*sweeps hands* Fᴀᴛᴀʟɪᴛʏ. Sounds like a lot of the classics. Did you ever get to play Strife? It's a PC shooter using the classic Doom engine with some rudimentary roleplaying elements. Worth checking out if you've got Steam or GoG. Nope, never played Strife :-(
I think we still have all the original product boxes from the games, I still have some 5 1/4 floppy disks around somewhere.. Physical Ah, I miss physical media. There's something special about being able to hold the packaging and its various bits and bobs in your hands. Game manuals have become something of a lost art these days.
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