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Post by Ela on Jul 23, 2019 22:30:00 GMT
The Daleks Master Plan. I'd forgotten how long and convoluted the plot of this story was.
Digresses a lot, lots of sidetracks that don't really add to the main story arc.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 23, 2019 23:33:27 GMT
The Three Doctors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 7:29:42 GMT
The Leisure Hive - An oddball of a story. Its style and pace are completely unlike any previous story.
There are oddities in the pacing and structure of this story which I had not noticed in prior viewings, especially in the first two episodes.
I still think the shuttle landings might as well have been a view from inside a gas can as the nozzle is inserted. You really can't tell what is happening in those model shots.
Yeah... Or any story after it really. Of all the stories in that season, Meglos strikes me as the one most like its predecessor in both tone and content. I really like the conflict between the Argolin and the Foamasi. There's something utterly chilling about hearing a war that only lasted twenty-minutes. The Hive is essentially a walk-in mausoleum for a culture that's largely accepted its rather grim fate. Gracefully and with dignity. As a tachyon thought experiment, it's interesting to think what it might've looked like if it'd been the Fifth Doctor's debut story. Reborn to a place in its dying days.
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Post by doctorkernow on Jul 28, 2019 19:41:42 GMT
Hello again.
Just finished watching the 60 episodes of the RTD era. What a blast! Thoroughly entertaining, with a few missteps. This was 21st Century Who, but with the central tenets of Classic Who still there.
The key word with Russell's Who is domestic. How does the Doctor's world effect those he knows? What effect does the knowledge of aliens have on the human race as a whole? How is the Doctor affected by those he travels with.
That pattern of contemporary, historical and future story at the start of each series was a good idea. Keeping the cliffhanger with the two parters was essential too.
While some of Russell's Doctor Who didn't hit the mark, I still found them watchable even though sometimes things just didn't make sense!
Each series has its classic story which is different for everyone. While you may not agree with Russell's vision of Doctor Who; he got a lot of things right and has left behind for me a fondly remembered legacy.
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Post by elkawho on Aug 1, 2019 2:38:39 GMT
Hello again. Just finished watching the 60 episodes of the RTD era. What a blast! Thoroughly entertaining, with a few missteps. This was 21st Century Who, but with the central tenets of Classic Who still there. The key word with Russell's Who is domestic. How does the Doctor's world effect those he knows? What effect does the knowledge of aliens have on the human race as a whole? How is the Doctor affected by those he travels with. That pattern of contemporary, historical and future story at the start of each series was a good idea. Keeping the cliffhanger with the two parters was essential too. While some of Russell's Doctor Who didn't hit the mark, I still found them watchable even though sometimes things just didn't make sense! Each series has its classic story which is different for everyone. While you may not agree with Russell's vision of Doctor Who; he got a lot of things right and has left behind for me a fondly remembered legacy. Well said!
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Post by elkawho on Aug 1, 2019 2:46:17 GMT
Whovians of Central Jersey group watch tonight: Day of the Daleks
I've only seen this story once, but damn is it a good one. I adored this story, and I can't say enough about it. One of the things that struck me is what a great character The Controller is. He starts as just another 2-D bad guy, and then as the story goes on you really see how his experience shaped the decisions he makes.
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Post by number13 on Aug 1, 2019 11:13:24 GMT
Whovians of Central Jersey group watch tonight: Day of the Daleks I've only seen this story once, but damn is it a good one. I adored this story, and I can't say enough about it. One of the things that struck me is what a great character The Controller is. He starts as just another 2-D bad guy, and then as the story goes on you really see how his experience shaped the decisions he makes. I love it! Did you watch the Special Edition version or the original? It's my favourite SE from the entire DVD range for what they did to enhance such a great script. If you've never read it, I recommend the novelisation - one of the very earliest and possibly Terrance Dicks' best novelisation of the lot. The audiobook read by Richard Franklin is excellent.
Agree, the Controller is a great character and I really like Aubrey Woods' 'heightened' performance as a silvered aristocrat from a time where such ‘privileged’ people use stylised makeup and protocol to try to separate themselves from the horrors of the world around them. But in the novel we see some of the Controller's thoughts and there from his very first scene he's self-aware that he is 'a slave, just like all the others'. So when the Doctor tried to make him see which side he should really be on, he was pushing at a door more open than even he perhaps realised.
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Post by frisby78 on Aug 1, 2019 12:34:36 GMT
Battlefield. I've come to the realisation that season 26 is my favourite.
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Post by elkawho on Aug 1, 2019 17:17:20 GMT
Whovians of Central Jersey group watch tonight: Day of the Daleks I've only seen this story once, but damn is it a good one. I adored this story, and I can't say enough about it. One of the things that struck me is what a great character The Controller is. He starts as just another 2-D bad guy, and then as the story goes on you really see how his experience shaped the decisions he makes. I love it! Did you watch the Special Edition version or the original? It's my favourite SE from the entire DVD range for what they did to enhance such a great script. If you've never read it, I recommend the novelisation - one of the very earliest and possibly Terrance Dicks' best novelisation of the lot. The audiobook read by Richard Franklin is excellent.
Agree, the Controller is a great character and I really like Aubrey Woods' 'heightened' performance as a silvered aristocrat from a time where such ‘privileged’ people use stylised makeup and protocol to try to separate themselves from the horrors of the world around them. But in the novel we see some of the Controller's thoughts and there from his very first scene he's self-aware that he is 'a slave, just like all the others'. So when the Doctor tried to make him see which side he should really be on, he was pushing at a door more open than even he perhaps realised.
We watched the original, but I've heard that the special edition is great. And I guess that it's just another book added to the list that I have to read.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Aug 4, 2019 10:26:02 GMT
there are no Macra
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Post by mark687 on Aug 4, 2019 20:39:17 GMT
The Green Death Blu-Ray (with bonus Behind the Sofa plus kudos to whoever is doing their best in "Air-Brushing" the CSO Edges)
Regards
mark687
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Aug 6, 2019 0:00:14 GMT
Spearhead From Space... it just looks so good and it gets a new era off to a sizzler of a start.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 6, 2019 11:52:28 GMT
The Enemy of the World
Very good performances and some surprisingly good set pieces carry a cheesy idea (the Doctor being a doppelgänger of a wannabe dictator) off with some style.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 6, 2019 15:09:00 GMT
The Web of Fear
Classic stuff. The supporting characters are all characterised nicely, the first Yeti attack is very well put together and the twists at the end work nicely. The Brig makes a fine debut as well.
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 6, 2019 17:38:21 GMT
The Enemy of the WorldVery good performances and some surprisingly good set pieces carry a cheesy idea (the Doctor being a doppelgänger of a wannabe dictator) off with some style. I love that one. It just does something different (and does not feature any aliens apart from the Doctor). I thought it is refreshing, funny, has some twists and surprising bits, and a really great ending.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 3:20:34 GMT
The Enemy of the WorldVery good performances and some surprisingly good set pieces carry a cheesy idea (the Doctor being a doppelgänger of a wannabe dictator) off with some style. I love that one. It just does something different (and does not feature any aliens apart from the Doctor). I thought it is refreshing, funny, has some twists and surprising bits, and a really great ending.
A great human tale about the vagaries of good and evil. The ensemble cast are extremely well-drawn from Kent to Fedorin to the unnamed cook in Salamander's kitchens. Fariah's got to be my favourite, though, for exploring how people can be extorted into protecting the very people they hate. Barry Letts is also on fire with his direction. It's got a wonderful TV21 aesthetic. The explosion done with a combination of back projection and debris on-set is genius. If the Doctor had been more involved, it might just be my favourite Second Doctor story, but as it stands, it's my favourite Pat Troughton story. If anyone does a 2018 story in the future, I'd love to see how they marry up the real world here with its depiction there.
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Post by theotherjosh on Aug 7, 2019 13:15:54 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks
I have a confession to make. I never really found the Daleks frightening and it's almost certainly due to the fact that to the best of my recollection, Destiny is the very first Dalek story I ever saw. I read a number of Target novelizations and I knew what a Dalek was, but this was the first time I was seeing them on screen. Your first exposure to something tends to anchor your understanding of it. And the Daleks do not exactly cover themselves with glory in this outing.
They are at their absolute nadir here. The Daleks are part-time hat racks and full time punching bags. They're losing a war to the Movellans. THE MOVELLANS! Also, "If you're supposed to be the superior race of the universe, why don't you try climbing after us?"
Ward and Baker are at the top of their game. I think that Terry Malloy is the best Davros, but the character is fine here, with just the right amount of menace.
I do rather like the episode. It's more than a little bit silly in parts, but I happen to like a certain amount of whimsy in my Who.
Tomb of the Cybermen
"You belong to us. You shall be like us." The Cybermen are at their best when they're not being used as off-brand Daleks, but as when the unique elements of their character are front and center. Probably the best Cybermen story of the Classic series. The Doctor's speech to Victoria is what the show is all about.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 14:22:05 GMT
Destiny of the DaleksI have a confession to make. I never really found the Daleks frightening and it's almost certainly due to the fact that to the best of my recollection, Destiny is the very first Dalek story I ever saw. I read a number of Target novelizations and I knew what a Dalek was, but this was the first time I was seeing them on screen. Your first exposure to something tends to anchor your understanding of it. And the Daleks do not exactly cover themselves with glory in this outing. They are at their absolute nadir here. The Daleks are part-time hat racks and full time punching bags. They're losing a war to the Movellans. THE MOVELLANS! Also, "If you're supposed to be the superior race of the universe, why don't you try climbing after us?" Ward and Baker are at the top of their game. I think that Terry Malloy is the best Davros, but the character is fine here, with just the right amount of menace. I do rather like the episode. It's more than a little bit silly in parts, but I happen to like a certain amount of whimsy in my Who. Tomb of the Cybermen"You belong to us. You shall be like us." The Cybermen are at their best when they're not being used as off-brand Daleks, but as when the unique elements of their character are front and center. Probably the best Cybermen story of the Classic series. The Doctor's speech to Victoria is what the show is all about. I read the Target novelisation of Destiny first, so I was expecting Blake's 7's "Cygnus Alpha" going into the story. A pitch black pseudo-moonscape with only the orange glow of Dalek lights for illumination. Terrance Dicks tries to squeeze as much tension as he can from those scenes. The reality's... hindered by its budget, unfortunately. I rather like the Daleks on the cover with their 60s-style adjustable eyestalks, seamlessly ringed midsection, black bumps and tablet-shaped blinkers. Shame we never got to see the design in action. I remember as kids we had tonnes of theories about the Daleks. We thought the slats on the sides of later drones were solar panels for absorbing radiation from the environment. Similarly, we rationalised the Movellans' weakness with the idea that maybe those power packs were the very last thing the expedition had. Perhaps they were supposed to arrive on Skaro in their hundreds, but it was only a handful of troops and the barest minimum of supplies that broke through whatever the Daleks had in orbit.
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Post by doctorkernow on Aug 7, 2019 19:24:08 GMT
Hello again.
Destiny of the Daleks? Oh dear, the end of episode one with the shattering glass aside it is a poor outing for the Daleks. My first Dalek story and as a result, never really found them scary.
The Jagaroth in the next story aka as the Spaghetti Monster now that really freaked me out! Davros was a sinister presence but the Doctor ran rings around him. The tone was generally quite light and even jokey at times.
Hearing Genesis of the Daleks a few years later I did wonder where the 'We obey noone' Daleks had gone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 21:53:13 GMT
Black Orchid.
I haven't seen this for ages. The last time I watched it, it was with the DVD commentary where most of the cast demolished it, and I could never see why. This is a terrific horror story set bang in the middle of a PG Wodehouse scenario. The cast are great and Director Ron Jones does a good job of disguising how appalling the weather often is on location. Part One is a great set-up, with the regulars on good form - Tegan's in a good mood, Adric is handsome and more appealing than I often remember him and Nyssa has some very awkward problems. Part Two sees The Doctor being a bit free with the TARDIS, but up to his neck in twists and turns. I find the finale truly emotional. Great story and at two episodes, doesn't outstay its welcome!
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