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Post by Superium on Oct 21, 2019 14:15:22 GMT
I've never understood the appeal of Sarah Jane.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 14:32:47 GMT
'Nu Who' has too many boring long speeches from the Doctor. & they are all basically saying the same thing. We get it. Enough already!
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Post by timegirl on Oct 21, 2019 15:52:58 GMT
This is a very silly theory but one I’d like to believe😄 On the Doctor’s birthday every year they invite all their past and future selves over to big black tie gala in the TARDIS, where the only other guests are the each incarnation’s companions. They play crazy party games and pranks on each other. They each take turns providing the evening’s entertainment such as Two playing the recorder, Six singing Gilbert and Sullivan, Seven shows off his spoon skills, Twelve on his electric guitar, etc. There also always a massive Congo line through all the rooms of the TARDIS.Companions and Doctors always end up getting mixed up with each other, some times even flirting with one another depending on the combination . The night always ends with each incarnation of the Doctor roasting each other. Of course these parties are so timey wimey that no one ever remembers what happens at these parties before or afterwards😄
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:29:22 GMT
This is a very silly theory but one I’d like to believe😄 On the Doctor’s birthday every year they invite all their past and future selves over to big black tie gala in the TARDIS, where the only other guests are the each incarcerations companions. They play crazy party games and pranks on each other. They each take turns providing the evening’s entertainment such as two playing the recorder, six sings Gilbert and Sullivan, Seven shows of his spoon skills, twelve on his electric guitar, etc. There also always a massive Congo line through all the rooms of the TARDIS.Companions and Doctors always end up getting mixed up with each other, some times even flirting with one another depending on the combination . The night always ends with each incarnation of the Doctor roasting each other. Of course these parties are so timey wimey that no one ever remembers what happens at these parties before or afterwards😄 Can just imagine the various Doctors 'cocking a snook' to the Celestial Intervention Agency and the laws of time to enjoy themselves on an annual basis - would certainly explain their reputation as a renegade on Gallifrey! The idea of a conga line through the TARDIS conjures up a lovely mental image too - I wonder how much ginger beer the first incarnation of the Doctor would have to drink to let himself get in the spirit of the occasion, not to mention roast his future selves? 😉
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Post by timegirl on Oct 21, 2019 16:43:18 GMT
This is a very silly theory but one I’d like to believe😄 On the Doctor’s birthday every year they invite all their past and future selves over to big black tie gala in the TARDIS, where the only other guests are the each incarcerations companions. They play crazy party games and pranks on each other. They each take turns providing the evening’s entertainment such as two playing the recorder, six sings Gilbert and Sullivan, Seven shows of his spoon skills, twelve on his electric guitar, etc. There also always a massive Congo line through all the rooms of the TARDIS.Companions and Doctors always end up getting mixed up with each other, some times even flirting with one another depending on the combination . The night always ends with each incarnation of the Doctor roasting each other. Of course these parties are so timey wimey that no one ever remembers what happens at these parties before or afterwards😄 Can just imagine the various Doctors 'cocking a snook' to the Celestial Intervention Agency and the laws of time to enjoy themselves on an annual basis - would certainly explain their reputation as a renegade on Gallifrey! The idea of a conga line through the TARDIS conjures up a lovely mental image too - I wonder how much ginger beer the first incarnation of the Doctor would have to drink to let himself get in the spirit of the occasion, not to mention roast his future selves? 😉 On a side note when ever it’s time for the Doctor to blow out their candles, River always jumps out of the birthday cake shouting out “Hello Sweetie!”🎂😄😘
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 17:50:31 GMT
I've never understood the appeal of the character of Ace.
Sorry.
I now expect to be hunted down and burned as a heretic. I came back to Doctor Who after not being totally enthralled by Colin Bakers reign,i was just growing up(i have since regressed lol,happily 🤪😂).The teaming of Sylvester and Sophie was a slight breath of fresh air in the program when they moved to a slightly darker version of The Doctor,she was interesting in that she was manipulated and possibly maltreated by the Doctor which to me breathed life into the program were you really safe with the Doctor?It was interesting,I love Fenric,But now i still find perhaps its time for Ace To be a fully grown woman and come back into the range as such.
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 21, 2019 22:17:08 GMT
I've never understood the appeal of Sarah Jane. YANA
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 2:37:15 GMT
This is a very silly theory but one I’d like to believe😄 On the Doctor’s birthday every year they invite all their past and future selves over to big black tie gala in the TARDIS, where the only other guests are the each incarcerations companions. They play crazy party games and pranks on each other. They each take turns providing the evening’s entertainment such as two playing the recorder, six sings Gilbert and Sullivan, Seven shows of his spoon skills, twelve on his electric guitar, etc. There also always a massive Congo line through all the rooms of the TARDIS.Companions and Doctors always end up getting mixed up with each other, some times even flirting with one another depending on the combination . The night always ends with each incarnation of the Doctor roasting each other. Of course these parties are so timey wimey that no one ever remembers what happens at these parties before or afterwards😄 Can just imagine the various Doctors 'cocking a snook' to the Celestial Intervention Agency and the laws of time to enjoy themselves on an annual basis - would certainly explain their reputation as a renegade on Gallifrey! The idea of a conga line through the TARDIS conjures up a lovely mental image too - I wonder how much ginger beer the first incarnation of the Doctor would have to drink to let himself get in the spirit of the occasion, not to mention roast his future selves? 😉 Ohh, I have something for this. It's a comic I often tend to bring up as the fuzzy line between fanon and canon (where else can Sixie burst onto the scene with "Mid-life crisis? MID-LIFE CRISIS?"), but Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors has a lovely little sequence at the very end with everyone catching up with themselves. The story itself is more or less over, but no reason why we can't have a bit of fun before we go: The other one is all twelve Doctors playing Dance Dance Revolution in the TARDIS, which I'll link here. It's a smidge bit too long for a post.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 22, 2019 2:46:17 GMT
Can just imagine the various Doctors 'cocking a snook' to the Celestial Intervention Agency and the laws of time to enjoy themselves on an annual basis - would certainly explain their reputation as a renegade on Gallifrey! The idea of a conga line through the TARDIS conjures up a lovely mental image too - I wonder how much ginger beer the first incarnation of the Doctor would have to drink to let himself get in the spirit of the occasion, not to mention roast his future selves? 😉 Ohh, I have something for this. It's a comic I often tend to bring up as the fuzzy line between fanon and canon (where else can Sixie burst onto the scene with "Mid-life crisis? MID-LIFE CRISIS?"), but Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors has a lovely little sequence at the very end with everyone catching up with themselves. The story itself is more or less over, but no reason why we can't have a bit of fun before we go: The other one is all twelve Doctors playing Dance Dance Revolution in the TARDIS, which I'll link here. It's a smidge bit too long for a post. Those are both brilliant!🤣 Some highlights of the Doctor’s birthdays include: Thirteen and Six inexplicably swapping outfits for the night and both refusing to swap back. Two, seven, and twelve doing an epic rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody on recorder, spoons, and electric guitar. Rose, Martha, and Donna decide to prank Ten vaporizing his suit so he has to spend the rest of the night in his birthday suit, Jamie thinks Amy is a bonnie lass and tries to impress her much to Rory’s annoyment. Three has bit to much bubbly and sings “I am the Doctor” Four decides to throw jelly babies like confetti everywhere he goes. Leila decides to worship Frobisher as a god after witnessing his shapeshifting abilities. Nine revealing he is actually very good at tango dancing much to Rose and Jack’s surprise. Bill and Ace hitting it off and setting off explosive fireworks that bizarrely become sentient. One and Susan having a grandfather, granddaughter dance and befriending Graham and Ryan. Five losing a bet to K9 and having to eat his celery. Twelve and Missy duet to “Don’t Go Breakin’My Heart” Eight and Charlie decide to cheer up War inviting him on their charades team. Eleven goes a bit silly and decides to wear everyone’s hats at once. Nine and Ten take turns slow dancing with Rose, and at one point Rose slipped out the loo, Nine and Ten danced with each other. Evelyn and Six perform al the parts in pirates of penzance. Thirteen and Yaz perform the opening number of Thirteen’s favorite musical Hamilton. Sarah Jane and Harry trick Four into thinking it’s a fancy dress party, so he comes dressed as a vampire ballerina Viking.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 22, 2019 3:04:35 GMT
Not 100% certain if this belongs in this thread but I don't think it's worth its own.
So, the Doctor marries River in The Wedding of River Song. Then, in Deep Breath, the Doctor tells Clara that he thought he was her boyfriend during their earlier travels. It's not until The Husbands of River Song that the Doctor spends his final night with River. So, bearing all that in mind, isn't the Doctor technically cheating on River with Clara? Though their relationship wasn't physical in any way, the Doctor did seem to be trying to get that emotional connection with Clara; he actively believed he was in that kind of relationship, even though he knew he hadn't finished things with River yet.
(Yes, I know that it's probably just an issue of things being written years apart, but the retroactive changes to the story seem pretty damning)
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Oct 22, 2019 5:00:13 GMT
Not 100% certain if this belongs in this thread but I don't think it's worth its own. So, the Doctor marries River in The Wedding of River Song. Then, in Deep Breath, the Doctor tells Clara that he thought he was her boyfriend during their earlier travels. It's not until The Husbands of River Song that the Doctor spends his final night with River. So, bearing all that in mind, isn't the Doctor technically cheating on River with Clara? Though their relationship wasn't physical in any way, the Doctor did seem to be trying to get that emotional connection with Clara; he actively believed he was in that kind of relationship, even though he knew he hadn't finished things with River yet. (Yes, I know that it's probably just an issue of things being written years apart, but the retroactive changes to the story seem pretty damning) I think any marriage between time travelers can't be a traditional one (and neither the Doctor nor River are traditional people, even if they were living all their days in the right order). After all, it's "til death do you part," and River died the first time they met. In Husbands they actually shout the names of the other people they've married at each other. (And River has her 'second wife' that's so similar to the Doctor.) I think in human terms "open relationship" might be the best summary, with added temporal complications.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 22, 2019 7:14:17 GMT
Not 100% certain if this belongs in this thread but I don't think it's worth its own. So, the Doctor marries River in The Wedding of River Song. Then, in Deep Breath, the Doctor tells Clara that he thought he was her boyfriend during their earlier travels. It's not until The Husbands of River Song that the Doctor spends his final night with River. So, bearing all that in mind, isn't the Doctor technically cheating on River with Clara? Though their relationship wasn't physical in any way, the Doctor did seem to be trying to get that emotional connection with Clara; he actively believed he was in that kind of relationship, even though he knew he hadn't finished things with River yet. (Yes, I know that it's probably just an issue of things being written years apart, but the retroactive changes to the story seem pretty damning) I think any marriage between time travelers can't be a traditional one (and neither the Doctor nor River are traditional people, even if they were living all their days in the right order). After all, it's "til death do you part," and River died the first time they met. In Husbands they actually shout the names of the other people they've married at each other. (And River has her 'second wife' that's so similar to the Doctor.) I think in human terms "open relationship" might be the best summary, with added temporal complications. Yeah, I agree on the open relationship bit. It is not as if River could be confined in any way to only one relationship. The Doctor knows that and accepts it (kind of, of course he has problems with not being the only one because of his ego, though) and he also knows that River sees it the same way.
This is not in any way "traditional", but what I think a necessity between semi-immortal time travellers who keep meeting in the wrong order.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 15:05:58 GMT
Can just imagine the various Doctors 'cocking a snook' to the Celestial Intervention Agency and the laws of time to enjoy themselves on an annual basis - would certainly explain their reputation as a renegade on Gallifrey! The idea of a conga line through the TARDIS conjures up a lovely mental image too - I wonder how much ginger beer the first incarnation of the Doctor would have to drink to let himself get in the spirit of the occasion, not to mention roast his future selves? 😉 Ohh, I have something for this. It's a comic I often tend to bring up as the fuzzy line between fanon and canon (where else can Sixie burst onto the scene with "Mid-life crisis? MID-LIFE CRISIS?"), but Rich Morris's The Ten Doctors has a lovely little sequence at the very end with everyone catching up with themselves. The story itself is more or less over, but no reason why we can't have a bit of fun before we go: The other one is all twelve Doctors playing Dance Dance Revolution in the TARDIS, which I'll link here. It's a smidge bit too long for a post. These are great. Thanks for sharing Wolfie! 😊 EDIT : on closer inspection of the above on my pad I can see all those little touches I missed earlier on my phone : a new K9 (mk V?) for Leela; Three trying on Sixie's coat of many colours and a cricket team of Timelords. Lovely. 😊
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Post by timegirl on Oct 23, 2019 3:23:59 GMT
This is probably a crazy late theory but it’s what I’d like to believe: I think that the Doctor’s past and future incarnations live in the Doctor’s mind. Even though we don’t get to see in their head normally, I think all the other incarnations wake up from a sort of slumber and voice their thoughts and opinions occasionally, like many Jiminy Crickets. The other versions of the Doctor never really go away when they regenerate they just take a back seat to the current dominant personality. Under the right conditions such as perhaps hypnosis or a seance the Doctor comes possibly become possessed by a past or future incarnation of themselves.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 23, 2019 7:29:31 GMT
This is probably a crazy late theory but it’s what I’d like to believe: I think that the Doctor’s past and future incarnations live in the Doctor’s mind. Even though we don’t get to see in their head normally, I think all the other incarnations wake up from a sort of slumber and voice their thoughts and opinions occasionally, like many Jiminy Crickets. The other versions of the Doctor never really go away when they regenerate they just take a back seat to the current dominant personality. Under the right conditions such as perhaps hypnosis or a seance the Doctor comes possibly become possessed by a past or future incarnation of themselves. Hmmm. Not sure. Sounds awfully close to the Eleven...
Although, they have done things like that in BF before, Zagreus and Exile are examples.
And for me, the BF version of Shada is basically this... I have real trouble getting into the story because it is Paul saying Tom's lines and it just sounds wrong for me somehow.
On the other hand- having the Doctor suffering from possession by one of his previous incarnations could be fun, either played as comedy or played straight. Just don't use the 8th Doctor- it would be just a bad copy of the Eleven there.
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Post by Jeedai on Oct 23, 2019 8:35:26 GMT
years ago I’d imagined there to be a component in every TARDIS called the Relative Time Inhibitor. Its function was to ensure that if two Time Lords landed within proximity of each other, it would be at a point consistent with both of their personal timestreams. And that’s why the TV adventures with the Master always happened in the order in which they were aired. Alas BF well and truly broke that with some of their stories, so I guess the RTI malfunctioned along the way. I always figured that is a function or side effect of the Eye Of Harmony. The clock is always running on Gallifrey, so to speak, and the Tardises are all synced to it and therefore each other. Barring interference from Time Scoops and the like, a Tardis automatically prevents interaction with Tardises that are out of sequence with them in order to avoid paradoxes. Possibly by sensing telltale signatures of the EOH for synchronicity energy patterns. (Consider the Temporal Tricorder on Star Trek Enterprise. I always figured that worked by reading the Cosmic Background Radiation emminating off of matter, and comparing the halflife readings to the moment of the Big Bang. The difference in 'cosmic decay' between two beings/items tells you how much more or less time the matter under scrutiny has existed. And the only way to account for that difference would be time travel.) Thus the Delgado Master only ever encounters Pertwee's Doctor, and so on. (Usually). Now take that hypothesis (or @griff 's RTI) and apply it to "World Enough And Time"/ "The Doctor Falls." The moment of synchronicity between the Master's Tardis and the Doctor's would have been the instant the Doctor's set down on the front end of the Mondasian ship. It's the only time the Doctor's Tardis could have landed at all, minus some some effect of the localized black hole itself on the Tardis' anti-paradox systems. Which I dont recall ever being stated as an issue. Only that there would be problems if they tried to fly her to the bottom of the ship. The Eye Of Harmony itself would not have been affected by the black hole's gravity or radiations or whatever, being contained within its own pocket dimension and just spitting energy outside of that. Anyway... The Master's Tardis, being in a area of the ship where time is moving far faster, gets further and further out of synch with the Doctor's Tardis... But is still in synch with Gallifrey, just at later and later points in the planet's timeline... And ultimately moving beyond Twelve's as Simm takes who-knows-how long to get down to his Tardis, escape the ship, and regenerate (not neccessarily in that order) under conditions were time is moving at a faster rate than the battle he skipped out on. And faster still than than the Doctor's Tardis. Conclusion: Simm's regeneration into Missy occurs -- relative to Gallifrey -- years or decades or even centuries *after* Twelve's regeneration into Thirteen. Missy didnt just trample their collective timelines to mess with Eleven. She did it to Twelve, too, back in "Death In Heaven". And Thirteen in her future travels may yet encounter a younger Missy than we saw in the TV show. A Missy that then gets the idea to go back and get her friend back. A corollary: On the show, we only ever seen Missy using a vortex manipulator to time travel. Such a device would be removed from a Tardis' anti-paradox safeties.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 1:39:07 GMT
I've been listening to Blood Circuit, one of Jim Mortimore's early scripts, and an interesting theory popped up regarding the origins of our favourite penguin chum. I'll let him explain:
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Post by Superium on Oct 24, 2019 2:39:59 GMT
I've never understood the appeal of Sarah Jane. The only reason why I feel Sarah Jane's thought of so highly is because she was at the right place at the right time. She was the companion during one of the most successful periods of the show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 5:51:33 GMT
This is probably a crazy late theory but it’s what I’d like to believe: I think that the Doctor’s past and future incarnations live in the Doctor’s mind. Even though we don’t get to see in their head normally, I think all the other incarnations wake up from a sort of slumber and voice their thoughts and opinions occasionally, like many Jiminy Crickets. The other versions of the Doctor never really go away when they regenerate they just take a back seat to the current dominant personality. Under the right conditions such as perhaps hypnosis or a seance the Doctor comes possibly become possessed by a past or future incarnation of themselves. I like the idea (a lot!) but as Tuigirl has already said, possibly a bit too close to The Eleven for comfort..so how's about setting it during the twelve to fifteen hours post regeneration when the Doctor's emotions are all over the place as the new personality is settling in? I can see the previous lives dropping in for a chat when the Doctor's mental barriers are temporarily down...😊
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Oct 24, 2019 7:04:50 GMT
I've been trying to reconcile the Silurian timeline, because that's the sort of thing you do when you're a little insane, and I've come up with a wild theory. (I'm sure there's something to contradict it.) There were two separate Silurian civilizations. The first was roughly contemporary to the dinosaurs and ended with the asteroid/Adric impact of 65 million years ago. Some Silurians took to space in an ark, while others settled into hibernation. Some hibernation pods malfunctioned, leaving the Silurians to sleep, but others worked, waking them up after the initial ash clouds and mass extinctions, to rebuild their obliterated society. This would be in the Eocene era, when mammals were started to become dominant. The Silurians changed and evolved, developing third eyes and aquatic subspecies, and encountered early primates which they considered "pests." Another astronomical event (theorized to be the coming of the Moon, though this does not match contemporary scientific theory. Unless one considers that it may have been the arrival or an earlier hatching of the "Egg" encountered by the Doctor and Clara Oswald in the mid-twenty-first-century...) caused this civilization to build new shelters, recalling the survival of their ancestors. This time, they were not so lucky, and Silurian civilization crumbled while they slept away, the Earth passing into the paws of the "apes" the Silurians had dismissed as pets...
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