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Post by redsharkJason on Jul 22, 2016 18:18:37 GMT
She comes out on top in In a Mirror, Darkly (Part 2). Hoshi is normally cute and perky, but in that 2-part story she's downright sexy! Linda Park described it as putting the Ho in Hoshi. Aww, Linda Park is so very wholesome. Hamming it up and overacting would have been encouraged for that story. Interestingly: The inclusion of Shatner was in its development talks, it being a 4-5 part miniseries was explored and news was received that Enterprise had been cancelled during its production. I found In a Mirror, Darkly to be superior to the Original Series' The Tholian Web and Mirror, Mirror, which obviously Enterprise was paying homage to. And, that's BIG compliment coming from me!
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Post by redsharkJason on Jul 22, 2016 18:20:53 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 18:31:35 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel? Tholian Web is less straightforward than that. Timey Wimey.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jul 22, 2016 22:07:27 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel? More or less. {Spoiler} The mirror Tholians of the 22nd century created a rip between the two universes and sent a distress call that the Prime Defiant of the 23rd century followed. The Tholian Web features Kirk and his crew trying to rescue the Defiant, but Kirk gets stuck on the Defiant, and they are attacked by the Prime Tholians of the 23rd century. Once they recue Kirk and the Defiant is in the mirror 22nd century, Mirror Archer steals the Defiant, and the events of In A Mirror Darkly happen. In Mirror Mirror, Prime Kirk and some of his crew switch places with their mirrror counterparts in the 23rd century
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Post by redsharkJason on Jul 22, 2016 22:52:35 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel? More or less. {Spoiler} The mirror Tholians of the 22nd century created a rip between the two universes and sent a distress call that the Prime Defiant of the 23rd century followed. The Tholian Web features Kirk and his crew trying to rescue the Defiant, but Kirk gets stuck on the Defiant, and they are attacked by the Prime Tholians of the 23rd century. Once they recue Kirk and the Defiant is in the mirror 22nd century, Mirror Archer steals the Defiant, and the events of In A Mirror Darkly happen. In Mirror Mirror, Prime Kirk and some of his crew switch places with their mirrror counterparts in the 23rd century As Twiki from Buck Rogers would say:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 4:53:14 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel? More or less. {Spoiler} The mirror Tholians of the 22nd century created a rip between the two universes and sent a distress call that the Prime Defiant of the 23rd century followed. The Tholian Web features Kirk and his crew trying to rescue the Defiant, but Kirk gets stuck on the Defiant, and they are attacked by the Prime Tholians of the 23rd century. Once they recue Kirk and the Defiant is in the mirror 22nd century, Mirror Archer steals the Defiant, and the events of In A Mirror Darkly happen. In Mirror Mirror, Prime Kirk and some of his crew switch places with their mirrror counterparts in the 23rd century Yeah, timey-Wimey.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 3:28:53 GMT
Okay Guys, as you guys have probably noticed, I have not been posting my short thoughts about each episode. This is because I have not been able to find the time to write my thoughts for episodes as I have been really busy and it will not be getting less busy for me anytime soon. This is me trying to say that I don't think that I will continue this semi-blog(don't know what to call it). I apologize to anyone that may have been enjoying this thread and thank you guys for the nice conversations that we have had. Thank you guys very much for reading.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 6, 2016 13:01:10 GMT
Thats fair enough. Hope you enjoy the rest of your watchings
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 15:29:03 GMT
Thats fair enough. Hope you enjoy the rest of your watchings Thank you very much.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Aug 7, 2016 10:34:11 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel? it may be nitpicking but it is not strictly speaking correct as the The Thoolian Web and Mirror, Mirror are both originals The term Sequel and prequel should be applied only to the later works (i.e. the Enterprise episodes) So I, Mudd is a sequel to Mudd's Women but Mudd's Women is not a prequel to I, Mudd
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 7, 2016 18:46:07 GMT
Someone, help me out here with this timeline claptrap: Is it correct to say that The Tholian Web is an Enterprise prequel and Mirror, Mirror is an Enterprise sequel? it may be nitpicking but it is not strictly speaking correct as the The Thoolian Web and Mirror, Mirror are both originals The term Sequel and prequel should be applied only to the later works (i.e. the Enterprise episodes) So I, Mudd is a sequel to Mudd's Women but Mudd's Women is not a prequel to I, Mudd I guess it would be more accurate to say that In A Mirror Darkly is a sequel to The Tholian Web and a prequel to Mirror Mirror.
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Post by kimalysong on Aug 8, 2016 1:01:14 GMT
Just random thought but I feel like Star Trek's 50th Anniversary celebration paled in comparison to Doctor Who's.
Note while I think I'm more of an overall Who fan I love TOS and enjoy TNG so I was hoping for something more after all the stuff for Doctor Who.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 1:24:37 GMT
Just random thought but I feel like Star Trek's 50th Anniversary celebration paled in comparison to Doctor Who's. Note while I think I'm more of an overall Who fan I love TOS and enjoy TNG so I was hoping for something more after all the stuff for Doctor Who. Over in Doctor Who there was stuff for the NuWho crowd in the form of The Day of the Doctor, there was something for the classical fans in The Hunters of the Burning Stone and Big Finish really let loose with everything they tried to put out during that period culminating in The Beginning. It was basically just an explosion of content that spun this, that and the other way. We even had four of the show's original actors turn up to do a comedy spoof together for The Five-ish Doctors. Star Trek on the other hand seemed to get a lot of repackaged, preexisting content, the CBS guidelines and Star Trek Beyond, all of which isn't particularly celebratory. It's interesting comparing the two fandoms because there are some marked differences between how each approach their content. Doctor Who is capable of being pretty much anything you want and thus has free reign in terms of how you'd like to approach it, whereas Trek is treated a lot more like Horatio Hornblower or Sharpe, there's a stranglehold on how content is produced and where it comes from. Seeing it elsewhere in other programmes, I think having a monopoly on a product actually kills quite a lot of content coming out from it. Let fans have their fun seems to be the message here. Something wonderful may happen.
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 8, 2016 4:04:57 GMT
Just random thought but I feel like Star Trek's 50th Anniversary celebration paled in comparison to Doctor Who's. Note while I think I'm more of an overall Who fan I love TOS and enjoy TNG so I was hoping for something more after all the stuff for Doctor Who. I think Pocket Books and IDW both did some stuff, but Beyond is the only really big thing they had for the anniversary. Its too bad Discovery isn't coming out until after the anniversary year. They could have done something like Trials and Tribbleations.
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Post by elkawho on Aug 14, 2016 14:14:58 GMT
Just random thought but I feel like Star Trek's 50th Anniversary celebration paled in comparison to Doctor Who's. Note while I think I'm more of an overall Who fan I love TOS and enjoy TNG so I was hoping for something more after all the stuff for Doctor Who. I completely agree. And I was a HUGE Star Trek fan decades before I was a Doctor Who fan. I grew up on Star Trek. I'm so thoroughly disappointed. I was expecting some kind of special on CBS as least. As a fandoms go, I enjoy Doctor Who fandom so much more than Star Trek's.
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 14, 2016 15:27:13 GMT
There's a documentary on the History Channel tonight, but the fiftieth anniversary really has been dissapointing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 2:27:10 GMT
CBS couldn't broadcast a new series within six months of a Paramount film being released from what I understand from Joseph Ianniello. With the July release of Beyond, that's why we're not getting the new series in the 50th itself. I've no idea what the reasons are that we couldn't have gotten it earlier than the movie, but hey. It's coming.
IDW's strips have been wonderful -they're wrapping up with a crossover between the Prime and Abrams crews. A new ongoing comic "To Boldly Go" debuts in October. There have also been a couple of miniseries though I've not read the Academy Years one. On disc we've had the Director's Cut, with a new 4K scan, of Wrath Of Khan. There's a boxset out on bluray next month featuring the original series, the first 6 movies and for the first time ever The Animated Series in HD. That's, I think, the first time movies and the series have been collected together. We've had more new novels than in quite a few years as well. And Star Trek Online is coming to X-Box One and PS4.
Add that to Beyond and...it's not been a bad 50th year if you're someone into more multimedia. It's more Trek than we've had in a long, long while. We've not had something like An Adventure In Space And Time, sure, but that's a real gift we got as Who fans. I wasn't expecting anything like that. All things considered, I think the franchise is shaping up nicely to last another 50 years.
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 15, 2016 3:29:38 GMT
CBS couldn't broadcast a new series within six months of a Paramount film being released from what I understand from Joseph Ianniello. With the July release of Beyond, that's why we're not getting the new series in the 50th itself. I've no idea what the reasons are that we couldn't have gotten it earlier than the movie, but hey. It's coming. IDW's strips have been wonderful -they're wrapping up with a crossover between the Prime and Abrams crews. A new ongoing comic "To Boldly Go" debuts in October. There have also been a couple of miniseries though I've not read the Academy Years one. On disc we've had the Director's Cut, with a new 4K scan, of Wrath Of Khan. There's a boxset out on bluray next month featuring the original series, the first 6 movies and for the first time ever The Animated Series in HD. That's, I think, the first time movies and the series have been collected together. We've had more new novels than in quite a few years as well. And Star Trek Online is coming to X-Box One and PS4. Add that to Beyond and...it's not been a bad 50th year if you're someone into more multimedia. It's more Trek than we've had in a long, long while. We've not had something like An Adventure In Space And Time, sure, but that's a real gift we got as Who fans. I wasn't expecting anything like that. All things considered, I think the franchise is shaping up nicely to last another 50 years. Yeah, but most of the spin off stuff isn't really anything special for the fiftieth anniversary. Its just stuff that they do every year. The rereleases are cool, but not especially exciting to people who have seen all of them anyway and own a lot of it. The 30th anniversary was a lot better, since DS9 and Voyager both did specials.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 4:00:56 GMT
I don't know how old you are but if you're old enough to have been a big fan for the 40th anniversary then you'll be thanking your stars for what we're getting this year. The film franchise was dead. The tv franchise was dead. Star Trek had no future for the first time since the early 70s. We had nothing. Comparisons with the 30th are a bit unfair given there were two tv shows on air at that point in time. There's no ongoing series to produce specials in right now. Given they couldn't air a new series too close to the new film, I'm not terribly sure what you'd consider to be better and more (realistically) suitable for the 50th. We've got a new movie, a whole new series being made, more spinoff material than we've had in years - a lot more not just "stuff they do every year", the definitive re-release of the most popular Trek film, ...I'm struggling to think of much more that could feasibly be done. Of course there are things I'd personally want to happen - DS9 on bluray for example - but that's unrealistic given TNG's under-performance saleswise. I'd love a mirror universe movie with Shatner as the villain but that's personal fanjodrell. For what we actually could have gotten for the 50th..I'm pretty contented. I think the only thing I would have expected in the 50th is that all of the TOS movies got new scans as they weren't great first time round when bluray was relatively new. The Robert Wise cut of Motion Picture an the alternate cut of Undiscovered Country would have been a treat too but I believe the film elements are long lost.
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 15, 2016 4:46:19 GMT
I don't know how old you are but if you're old enough to have been a big fan for the 40th anniversary then you'll be thanking your stars for what we're getting this year. The film franchise was dead. The tv franchise was dead. Star Trek had no future for the first time since the early 70s. We had nothing. Comparisons with the 30th are a bit unfair given there were two tv shows on air at that point in time. There's no ongoing series to produce specials in right now. Given they couldn't air a new series too close to the new film, I'm not terribly sure what you'd consider to be better and more (realistically) suitable for the 50th. We've got a new movie, a whole new series being made, more spinoff material than we've had in years - a lot more not just "stuff they do every year", the definitive re-release of the most popular Trek film, ...I'm struggling to think of much more that could feasibly be done. Of course there are things I'd personally want to happen - DS9 on bluray for example - but that's unrealistic given TNG's under-performance saleswise. I'd love a mirror universe movie with Shatner as the villain but that's personal fanjodrell. For what we actually could have gotten for the 50th..I'm pretty contented. I think the only thing I would have expected in the 50th is that all of the TOS movies got new scans as they weren't great first time round when bluray was relatively new. The Robert Wise cut of Motion Picture an the alternate cut of Undiscovered Country would have been a treat too but I believe the film elements are long lost. Fair enough. I actually became a fan of Star Trek after watching TV Land's Star Trek marathon on the fortieth anniversary. I didn't expect anything like the 30th anniversary, but it would have been nice if Beyond had felt more like a celebration of the fiftieth anniversary. I certainly enjoyed Beyond, but it would have been nice if it had followed Skyfall's example and included more references to the past. I suppose they may have been scared of doing anything like that after the Wrath of Khan remake didn't go so well. I am excited for Discovery though
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