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Post by Traveller on Sept 13, 2017 22:41:03 GMT
Prediction: He will see an initial boost in ratings, followed by an equal drop in ratings once the curiosity wears off. The social experiment in DW will fail, and the show will be cancelled after one season, or he will be replaced quickly, with a return to a male Doctor in hopes of resurrecting ratings that have been consistently poor for several years anyway.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Sept 14, 2017 18:05:08 GMT
Prediction: He will see an initial boost in ratings, followed by an equal drop in ratings once the curiosity wears off. The social experiment in DW will fail, and the show will be cancelled after one season, or he will be replaced quickly Unless Chibnall delivers on the writing quality. Breaking Bad was considered a complete dud conceptually, and yet, Vince Gilligan turned it into the poster boy of the TV renaissance, next to Game of Thrones.
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Post by relativetime on Sept 14, 2017 19:25:40 GMT
I feel like we're still in a golden age of popularity and recognition for Doctor Who and the fact that Jodie Whittaker has generated this much buzz online (and most of it positive, too) bodes pretty well for the future of the show. I once would have said Chibnall would play things safe, but it's clear to me that that's not at all how he intends to run the show - that's pretty exciting news to me!
So, I'll go bold and predict we'll get a pure historical story sometime down the line or maybe a companion that hails from some distant planet where people's skin is purple or something. I don't know, just something fresh and new. And maybe it won't necessarily be Chibnall who writes it - I'd like to think this casting decision has attracted a whole new crowd of talented writers who want to leave their mark on the show. In fact, I don't doubt it.
I'd love for Neil Gaiman to pen an episode or two as well. I think the biggest shame of the last three seasons was his absence - I remember an interview where he said he'd be eager to write an episode for Capaldi. I know he was onboard for a female Doctor, so maybe he won't miss out this time!
Ultimately, though, my prediction is that one of my favorite shows ever will continue to be as wondrous and exciting as it was when I first started watching back with Eccleston.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 14, 2017 22:02:21 GMT
Why do you guys continue to work off the fantasy that a female Doctor is not going to create a new generation of fans for the show?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 22:23:14 GMT
Why do you guys continue to work off the fantasy that a female Doctor is not going to create a new generation of fans for the show? Well, let's think about this... Fellows, what if they'd rejigged the show during its earlier years and we'd gotten a stern Honor Blackman in the role? Or a clownish Audrey Hepburn? Okay, the latter's a bit unlikely, but the former could have happened in a not too alternate timeline. Think of it, I reckon the idea could've had legs even back then.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 14, 2017 22:31:44 GMT
I wish we had gotten a female Doctor 30 or so years ago, just so all the moaning about a female Doctor would be ancient news. The show is built on change. This ability to change is what has kept the show going. The BBC is going to be pulling out the stops when its transmission date approaches. Fans of every stripe are going to be tuning in along with a new generation of fans who will look to Whitaker as their Doctor. It is going to be huge.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 22:42:20 GMT
Well, you know, we'll get a kick out of it one way or the other. The TV Movie was a one-off, but Paul McGann and the Eighth Doctor are still very much with us (and living it up in their own range). If it succeeds and I sincerely hope it does, well, no one's actually lost anything.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 15, 2017 9:20:09 GMT
A film would be nice. Having said that, unless it goes very badly wrong I can't imagine Doctor Who as a TV Series is going anywhere soon. The BBC have nothing to replace it with. Yeah, and, even if Series 11 got bad ratings, they'd probably still make SOME profit off it. It'll be renewed probably until the show goes to 3 million viewers in total. Maybe even until the show gets an average of two million viewers.
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Post by aztec on Sept 15, 2017 16:09:50 GMT
Chibnall's reportedly coming in with a five year plan for the series, and this article certainly implies the BBC are confident in the show's future: www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/worldwide/2017/doctor-who-chinaThe series makes so much money from merchandising and international sales I don't think it's in danger of cancellation anytime soon (certainly not in the immediate future), if anything all the media interest about a female Doctor will probably boost viewing figures, some long term fans have said they will stop watching, whilst others have indicated the casting choice has reinvigorated the show for the better.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Sept 15, 2017 23:45:39 GMT
A film would be nice. Having said that, unless it goes very badly wrong I can't imagine Doctor Who as a TV Series is going anywhere soon. The BBC have nothing to replace it with. Yeah, and, even if Series 11 got bad ratings, they'd probably still make SOME profit off it. It'll be renewed probably until the show goes to 3 million viewers in total. In this age of franchises, I'll bet my bottom penny that the Beeb would fight Tooth and Claw for the series to survive. It's the closest they have to a Marvel or DC, and they're certainly not making money off of Eastenders action figures or Call the Midwife bedcovers.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 16, 2017 18:44:39 GMT
In this age of franchises, I'll bet my bottom penny that the Beeb would fight Tooth and Claw for the series to survive. It's the closest they have to a Marvel or DC, and they're certainly not making money off of Eastenders action figures or Call the Midwife bedcovers. Probably. Perhaps if Series 11 is a failure, they'll retcon it? I hope this doesn't happen, but you never know these days. I don't think they'd retcon. I think they'd place the blame on Chris Chibnall, get a new showrunner on-board and give Jodie Whittaker a second series to win audiences over. They wouldn't want the first female Doctor to be seen as a failure, so Chibnall would be the scape goat.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 17, 2017 12:50:18 GMT
They wouldn't want the first female Doctor to be seen as a failure, so Chibnall would be the scape goat. If it was a failure, it would be Chibnall's fault, right? So he wouldn't be the scapegoat? All the same - if it does fail - I think they'd still have to get rid of Whittaker and get either a big name or "First Black Actor" in the role to win people over. The audiences probably won't come back if it's the same Doctor. Not necessarily. It could be anyone's fault, from the First Assistant Director to yes, the showrunner.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 6:28:04 GMT
It'll take a minor miracle to win me over on a female Doctor, i no longer debate it because i tire of fans moaning cause i disagree & try & force me to change my opinion, it's never going to happen but as i have said if Jodie is good as The Doctor I'm man enough to acknowledge that I'm wrong.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Sept 23, 2017 0:04:09 GMT
If it was a failure, it would be Chibnall's fault, right? So he wouldn't be the scapegoat? All the same - if it does fail - I think they'd still have to get rid of Whittaker and get either a big name or "First Black Actor" in the role to win people over. The audiences probably won't come back if it's the same Doctor. Not necessarily. It could be anyone's fault, from the First Assistant Director to yes, the showrunner. The showrunner I get, but the 1st AD has jack to do with casting or writing or producing. The BBC could never spin it as being their fault, though why they'd do that is beyond me. I think you meant casting director.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Sept 23, 2017 7:29:38 GMT
Not necessarily. It could be anyone's fault, from the First Assistant Director to yes, the showrunner. The showrunner I get, but the 1st AD has jack to do with casting or writing or producing. The BBC could never spin it as being their fault, though why they'd do that is beyond me. I think you meant casting director. I think it would have to fail spectacularly to get a replacement of Doctor and showrunner after one series. And I can't see that happening. I'll actually go so far as to predict a massive ratings boost at the start, which will then drop off slightly as the series goes along. Or drop off dramatically if the general audience doesn't like the direction the show's headed. But people will definitely be checking in just to see the first woman Doctor, even if they don't like the idea. It's the sort of headline news that always draws in a casual audience.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:12:28 GMT
i'm not comfortable with the idea of a female doctor and was quite upset with the announcement. Believe me, i like stories with strong female characters, but not this. not changing the gender of the doctor. I will watch the first episode though and If i like it , may even watch further.currently, am not too enthusiastic about it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 23, 2017 12:10:23 GMT
Not necessarily. It could be anyone's fault, from the First Assistant Director to yes, the showrunner. The showrunner I get, but the 1st AD has jack to do with casting or writing or producing. The BBC could never spin it as being their fault, though why they'd do that is beyond me. I think you meant casting director. I was coming from the perspective that one person doing a bad job may create a bad atmosphere on set that has a knock-on effect on the quality of the material. There have been situations where behind the scenes problems have lead to a stressful environment and has resulted in a bad movie. There were many reports that this was the case with Fan4stic, with Josh Trank even having bust-ups with the cast. The BBC would never blame the 1st AD but if he or she is doing a bad job they may indirectly be the cause of a bad atmosphere that is noticeable in the finished edit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 15:34:01 GMT
A lot of people say they're gonna watch the first episode. If it's good, they'll continue watching. If it's bad, they won't. It'd better be a good episode, I reckon! I think one episode isn't enough time to judge a new Doctor to be honest... and that applies to any new Doctor, male or female. I will watch the first season of Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor, I can judge the season as a whole then and see how the characterisation of the new Doctor following her regeneration develops. Every season of Doctor Who has had some poor episodes, so it'd be a bit harsh to judge Jodie on just one outing if the first episode was a bit sub-par.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Sept 23, 2017 15:38:16 GMT
Not necessarily. It could be anyone's fault, from the First Assistant Director to yes, the showrunner. Don't know how it'd be anyone's fault, but Chibnall, Strevens, Walsh and/or Whittaker's fault it is if it were to be a failure. And - even if it was a behind the scenes persons fault - the public won't come back unless they get a big name actor/actress to guest in the following series or Whittaker and/or Walsh leaving. The question is - though - would it be the problem of Whittaker's acting or the gender of the character that people blame it on? Yes, getting rid of the First Assistant Director wouldn't work. They'd have to publicly blame either Chris Chibnall or Jodie Whittaker, and fire both their choice of public blame and the 1st AD.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 15:50:50 GMT
A lot of people say they're gonna watch the first episode. If it's good, they'll continue watching. If it's bad, they won't. It'd better be a good episode, I reckon! I think one episode isn't enough time to judge a new Doctor to be honest... and that applies to any new Doctor, male or female. I will watch the first season of Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor, I can judge the season as a whole then and see how the characterisation of the new Doctor following her regeneration develops. Every season of Doctor Who has had some poor episodes, so it'd be a bit harsh to judge Jodie on just one outing if the first episode was a bit sub-par. Maybe not just one episode but probably a handful at the most for me..if it doesn't catch my attention by then, then I won't get through it. that's been my trend till date for most of the shows I watch. I wasn't impressed with Capaldi's first episode but then I was bored with Matt Smith by then and continued watching the new doctor. 2-3 episodes down the line I was impressed. He is my second favourite doctor after Tennant now So yes, wait n watch a few episodes makes sense.
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