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Post by sherlock on Dec 31, 2016 10:14:38 GMT
The end result is that the stalemate was ended by Resurrection of the Daleks, with the Movellans using a virus to get enough advantage over the Daleks to convince them Davros was the answer. To be fair, recovering Davros was their original strategy in Destiny but in Resurrection they had a specific reason to revive him. Two points to the Daleks in Resurrection for their Supreme showing enough independent thought as to plot against Davros and consider Gallifreyan High Council a viable target for infiltration and assassination by their duplicates. Not so impressive was that they had to seek out their creator to solve a problem that they themselves seemed incapable of fixing, despite their extensive understanding of virology (re: The Dalek Invasion of Earth, Planet of the Daleks, et al.). The audio Davros really does paint an excellent picture of why he's so bitter towards his own creations. That intervening period of living the same moment over and over again must have left a lot of resentment towards the Daleks and the Doctor for putting him there. Minus points to the Daleks in Resurrection for storing the virus on Earth for no reason, at the same time planning to invade it with duplicates and deciding to assassinate the High Council to essentially kick start a Time War despite being unable to beat a bunch of robots.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 0:31:12 GMT
Two points to the Daleks in Resurrection for their Supreme showing enough independent thought as to plot against Davros and consider Gallifreyan High Council a viable target for infiltration and assassination by their duplicates. Not so impressive was that they had to seek out their creator to solve a problem that they themselves seemed incapable of fixing, despite their extensive understanding of virology (re: The Dalek Invasion of Earth, Planet of the Daleks, et al.). The audio Davros really does paint an excellent picture of why he's so bitter towards his own creations. That intervening period of living the same moment over and over again must have left a lot of resentment towards the Daleks and the Doctor for putting him there. Minus points to the Daleks in Resurrection for storing the virus on Earth for no reason, at the same time planning to invade it with duplicates and deciding to assassinate the High Council to essentially kick start a Time War despite being unable to beat a bunch of robots. Ambition, ambition, ambition. The Daleks in Resurrection are implied to rely solely upon instinct as a means of combatting their stringent thinking, so I guess from a certain point of view it makes sense. They're very desperate Daleks. In A Device of Death, the Movellans themselves are implied to be descended from Deepcity's synth-troopers, who were originally created with the purpose of being an impartial peacekeeping force. Someone who could weigh up all the alternatives before reacting with deadly force and that's how they got into that stalemate heard of in Destiny to begin with. They're robots with long history, at least.
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Post by martinw8686 on Mar 17, 2023 20:42:03 GMT
Destiny of the Daleks 3/5 - okay story let down by ridiculous Romana regeneration and flippant tone undermining Dalek threat.
Creature of the Pit 2/5 - some interesting ideas but the whole thing is way too silly, it all feels very pantomime.
City of Death 5/5 - the tone is pitch perfect, the humour is witty without undermining the drama.
Nightmare of Eden 3/5 - some very good ideas and Tom is great but the lead villain is ridiculous and the Mandrels are just not threatening.
Horns of Nimon 1/5 - wow this is bad, just beyond silly, even more of a pantomime than Creature of the Pit. Strong contender for the worst serial of the Tom Baker era.
Shada (completed with animation) 5/5 - closer to City of Death in tone, it would have balanced the season out much better in 1979/80. Tom's brilliant.
Season 17s tone can either work brilliantly or be absolutely awful, the execution of the scripts being hampered by low budget, rushed recording time, a producer/script editor at the end of their tether and Tom exerting too much influence.
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