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Post by themeddlingmonk on Sept 15, 2017 20:50:04 GMT
But everything looks better in black & white. Rainbows don't.
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Post by number13 on Sept 15, 2017 20:51:01 GMT
Its actually 4 stories, not 8, but your point still stands. Ah, they're on par with the Third Doctor Adventures 2-story format and not the usual 4-story new series box sets - cheers! Moreover, I guess it's debatable whether some of us will consider these AAISAT First Doctor Adventures to be a "new series" (like I presently do) or a classic series production. Classic series definitely and early First Doctor classic series at that. The news story makes that clear and this, plus the stellar writers, was what reassured me about what BF are doing here. They say: "This series of adventures pays homage to the beginning years of Doctor Who, and each of the four episodes in each story will be given an individual title." And: "Two of the four stories are historical" Perfect. They will be sets of two four-parters with approximately 25-30 minute episodes and the naming of each episode and making every other story an historical is the clearest possible signal that they are going for authenticity. I do not expect whizz-bang 'technicolor' new series adventures with the First Doctor! (' Hmmmph! Certainly not my boy, ridiculous idea, quite ridiculous!" ) EDIT: Having said all that, on the BF website I notice that the releases are categorised as 'Doctor Who - The New Series' so...
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Sept 15, 2017 21:23:02 GMT
!!!! That's a hell of a announcement to sneak in at the bottom of the article. Is this a final blow for the 'War Chief=The Master'/'Monk=The Master' theory? The Monk theory has long been buried by Big Finish. OTOH, I can't conceivably see how they could rule out the War Chief being the Master unless they go out of their way to do it. I hope they don't as that would be quite petty. I have mixed feelings about recasting Susan and Ian, but overall I'm interested by this series. I certainly hope it doesn't interfere with the Early Adventures, though.
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Post by Jeedai on Sept 15, 2017 21:24:02 GMT
Exactly. Give us a version of the Master that is the a darker, more amoral version of The Doctor and not the panto villain he would become. And let's not forget that the Doctor wasn't all that moral to start out either. The First Doctor as we first meet him is a man who resorted to kidnapping to keep his Tardis secret, nearly bashed a caveman's skull in to keep them from slowing him down, and sabotaged the Tardis so he could have an excuse to explore Skaro (an action that is retroactively much more grey now that we know the Tardis is a living being). As Twelve and Missy continually reminded anyone in earshot, these two used to be friends. But really, by the time of Three vs Delgado, which one had changed more since the good old days? An examination of how these two drifted apart post-Academy thanks to their increasingly different choices would provide a new angle on Doctor/Master conflict.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 15, 2017 21:29:41 GMT
Exactly. Give us a version of the Master that is the a darker, more amoral version of The Doctor and not the panto villain he would become. And let's not forget that the Doctor wasn't all that moral to start out either. The First Doctor as we first meet him is a man who resorted to kidnapping to keep his Tardis secret, nearly bashed a caveman's skull in to keep them from slowing him down, and sabotaged the Tardis so he could have an excuse to explore Skaro (an action that is retroactively much more grey now that we know the Tardis is a living being). As Twelve and Missy continually reminded anyone in earshot, these two used to be friends. But really, by the time of Three vs Delgado, which one had changed more since the good old days? An examination of how these two drifted apart post-Academy thanks to their increasingly difference choices would provide a new angle on Doctor/Master conflict. Agree 100% There is so much ground to cover with these two that I almost wish it was an entire box set devoted to just the two of them.
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Post by xlozdob on Sept 15, 2017 21:36:48 GMT
As this seems to have gone unnoticed (correct me if I'm wrong), the titles of the individual episodes are available in the Behind the Scenes section of the first volume.
The Destination Wars 1. Journey to the Future 2. The Father of Invention 3. The Destination Wars 4. Prisoners of Time
The Great White Hurricane 1. The Coming Storm 2. The Frozen City 3. The Search 4. River of Doom
Edit: Looks like the titles for the second volume are up too.
The Invention of Death 1. A World Without Fear 2. The First 3. The Dying Art 4. The Invention of Life
The Barbarians and the Samurai 1. The Forbidden Land 2. Barbarians Among Us 3. Power Play 4. Fall of the Samurai
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 15, 2017 21:52:05 GMT
New version of the first Doctor's theme I wonder.
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Sept 15, 2017 21:52:26 GMT
Is it wrong that I'm now hoping for an adaptation of Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks... Barnes Common and all...
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Post by agentten on Sept 15, 2017 21:56:04 GMT
Pre-ordered. What a nice surprise! I hope BF will draw in some listeners who enjoy Bradley in the Christmas special. Hopefully we'll also get some stories with the recast Ben and Polly from the special and perhaps even appearances by Mark Gatiss' character (depending on what the role turns out to be and what the license allows for).
I'm pretty surprised at the first incarnation Master, too. It seems BF have decided to pull the trigger on pre-Delgado Master appearances. Looking forward to hearing this version of the character.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 15, 2017 22:07:36 GMT
What a lovely Christmas Day present this will be when it drops to coincide with Bradley's appearance on the Who Christmas Day special.
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Post by number13 on Sept 15, 2017 22:27:55 GMT
As this seems to have gone unnoticed (correct me if I'm wrong), the titles of the individual episodes are available in the Behind the Scenes section of the first volume. Edit: Looks like the titles for the second volume are up too. Excellent spot! So that looks like the second historical will be something to do with Western contact with Japan - maybe right at the end of the shogunate in the 1850/60s? Just my guess, but that would be a fascinating story about interfering in the history and development of another "world" or time, a favourite First Doctor theme. And the 'barbarians' would then be the imperialist powers led by America, including Britain and tsarist Russia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 22:58:31 GMT
As this seems to have gone unnoticed (correct me if I'm wrong), the titles of the individual episodes are available in the Behind the Scenes section of the first volume. Edit: Looks like the titles for the second volume are up too. Excellent spot! So that looks like the second historical will be something to do with Western contact with Japan - maybe right at the end of the shogunate in the 1850/60s? Just my guess, but that would be a fascinating story about interfering in the history and development of another "world" or time, a favourite First Doctor theme. And the 'barbarians' would then be the imperialist powers led by America, including Britain and tsarist Russia. These stories, and their writers, sound fascinating! I'm really quite looking forward to this now. The bundles, should anyone care to partake, save a massive £1 on the CDs, and on the downloads, nothing at all! Ah well, you can't have everything
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Post by number13 on Sept 15, 2017 23:08:49 GMT
Excellent spot! So that looks like the second historical will be something to do with Western contact with Japan - maybe right at the end of the shogunate in the 1850/60s? Just my guess, but that would be a fascinating story about interfering in the history and development of another "world" or time, a favourite First Doctor theme. And the 'barbarians' would then be the imperialist powers led by America, including Britain and tsarist Russia. These stories, and their writers, sound fascinating! I'm really quite looking forward to this now. The bundles, should anyone care to partake, save a massive £1 on the CDs, and on the downloads, nothing at all! Ah well, you can't have everything Good pre-order price for the boxsets anyway. I'm also looking forward to this more, the more I've read and thought about it. Audio Watchdog's thought that they might do an early Christmas Day release made me think - U.K. customers who like our free postage on pre-orders, don't leave it until the very end of December to 'pre-order' the January release or you might get a £2.50 'anti-present' in postage costs if they did the early release!
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Post by Hieronymus on Sept 15, 2017 23:36:10 GMT
Initially I was shocked and saddened, until I realized this was a NEW range, and not a change of cast for the Early Adventures. Then I calmed down and began looking forward to it.
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Post by glutamodo on Sept 16, 2017 0:00:14 GMT
Yeah, I also had a moment in which I wondered if this was a replacement for the existing 1st Doctor EA series. I wouldn't have been too happy if it had, but I still would have bought it, as I buy most DW-related titles from BF. In any case, I preordered it.
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Post by rebeltimelord on Sept 16, 2017 0:00:26 GMT
I can't look forward to this with anything but excitement. With William Russell's health, I didn't really expect him to return to the EAs and this really seems like the only solution. It's also possible Carole Anne Ford might not have wished to continue without Russell or decided to retire from the role (she's seventy-seven after all). I suspect we'll see Susan's plot threads resolved in a future Eighth Doctor release with Ford in the role.
AND GUYS!
THE MASTER. IN. THE. FIRST. DOCTOR. ERA.
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Post by rebeltimelord on Sept 16, 2017 0:05:29 GMT
Yeah, I also had a moment in which I wondered if this was a replacement for the existing 1st Doctor EA series. I wouldn't have been too happy if it had, but I still would have bought it, as I buy most DW-related titles from BF. In any case, I preordered it. I think The First Doctor Early Adventures will continue under Puves and we'll probably see some Ben and Polly stories. So, we're getting the best of both worlds
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Post by relativetime on Sept 16, 2017 2:25:58 GMT
Ah, they're on par with the Third Doctor Adventures 2-story format and not the usual 4-story new series box sets - cheers! Moreover, I guess it's debatable whether some of us will consider these AAISAT First Doctor Adventures to be a "new series" (like I presently do) or a classic series production. Classic series definitely and early First Doctor classic series at that. The news story makes that clear and this, plus the stellar writers, was what reassured me about what BF are doing here. They say: "This series of adventures pays homage to the beginning years of Doctor Who, and each of the four episodes in each story will be given an individual title." And: "Two of the four stories are historical" Perfect. They will be sets of two four-parters with approximately 25-30 minute episodes and the naming of each episode and making every other story an historical is the clearest possible signal that they are going for authenticity. I do not expect whizz-bang 'technicolor' new series adventures with the First Doctor! (' Hmmmph! Certainly not my boy, ridiculous idea, quite ridiculous!" ) EDIT: Having said all that, on the BF website I notice that the releases are categorised as 'Doctor Who - The New Series' so... I think Big Finish can find a nice compromise between the old and the new, just like they have with Classic Doctors, New Monsters or many of their Main Range titles (specifically the recent Sixth Doctor releases). Speaking of which, now that we've got a full-cast First Doctor team, I really, REALLY want that First Doctor vs. Weeping Angels story now!
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Post by The Matt on Sept 16, 2017 5:08:56 GMT
I wish I could remember the podcast from a couple of years ago where Nick read my letter asking him if they ever thought about doing an earlier incarnation of The Master, since we never have been told what incarnation the Delgado Master was. There was this beat where it was obvious I had opened a door for him. Are you actually trying to take credit for BF/Nick Briggs idea about the early incarnation of the Master? If so that is a bold bold claim
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 16, 2017 5:37:17 GMT
I wish I could remember the podcast from a couple of years ago where Nick read my letter asking him if they ever thought about doing an earlier incarnation of The Master, since we never have been told what incarnation the Delgado Master was. There was this beat where it was obvious I had opened a door for him. Are you actually trying to take credit for BF/Nick Briggs idea about the early incarnation of the Master? If so that is a bold bold claim I'm saying exactly what I'm saying. I wrote a letter to the podcast posing the idea of the Delgado Master not being the first incarnation and Nick reacted as if that wasn't something he had considered. Not taking credit for anything or claiming ownership of anything. Here is the email which was sent in on June 8th 2015 and read on the podcast, Hello Big Finish Team, No this isn't a question about when will be see some sort of multi-Master release, although if you wanted to answer that question I would not complain. Instead I was wondering if it has ever been established what version of The Master Roger Delgado represented and if he wasn't the first, and with all his hare brained schemes & plots I can't imagine one version would last for too long a time, have you all ever considered creating a version of The Master which predates the first version we saw back in the 1970s? Thanks so much and congrats again on the license extension. All the best, Nathan Gervais
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