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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 9:44:31 GMT
The difference in this case is Dudman is hired for his impersonations of Doctors 10, 11 and now 12. Regeneration Impossible was written specifically for Dudman to perform a full cast Short Trip. They don't sound in the slightest bit interesting to me anyway. I'm not a fan of Dudman or his impersonations so I'll be giving these ST stories a miss.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 29, 2019 9:55:37 GMT
I think the stories of these Dudman releases sound like fun. I am pretty sure I will enjoy them and maybe even get a couple of laughs out of them.
I really liked the 11th Doctor chronicles.
However, I also think that his 12th Doctor is a bit off. I am surprised they did not get Dan Starkey to do it, since his 12th Doctor got quite good in the audio books he was reading.
I do not really mind the impersonisations, but I am not a long term fan with strong nostalgic attachment, I am just in it for the stories, really. I can however understand when people are apprehensive about the impersonisations.
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Post by antartiks on Jul 30, 2019 23:21:33 GMT
Battle Scars is now in accounts!
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Post by dangerwillrobinson on Aug 5, 2019 10:00:09 GMT
A sneak preview of Dead Media!
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Post by project37 on Aug 5, 2019 10:16:17 GMT
Does anyone else remember the Tenth Doctor BBC audiobook "Dead Air"? It was a similar idea (in this case, a recovered pirate radio recording from the Doctor) and narrated in character by David Tennant. It was a lot of fun and having the genuine article playing the Doctor made all the difference.
I *love* the idea of the Doctor hosting a podcast, but now that I've heard more of it, I'm disappointed to say that Dudman's "in character" narration isn't working for me as much as I'd like it to.
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Post by Whovitt on Aug 5, 2019 10:43:51 GMT
I haven't listened to any of Dudman's Capaldi until now, and I get why it doesn't work for some people. In order for him to get the depth of Capaldi's voice, I think Dudman tends to lose the Scottishness of the voice. When he reaches more into Capaldi's higher register, that's when the Scottish starts to come through. The only issue with the Scottish accent is that it is very wide ranging. Just compare Sylvester McCoy, David Tennant, and Peter Capaldi. They're all Scottish, but they all sound very different. I think Dudman tends toward a different version of the accent to Capaldi's. It's a bit like how Nick Briggs does a "standard" Scottish accent in Forever Fallen - yes, it's Scottish, but it doesn't sound anything like McCoy.
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Post by xlozdob on Aug 5, 2019 10:51:38 GMT
Personally, I think that's one hell of a podcast.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 5, 2019 11:00:05 GMT
So these Short Trips teasers are the first I’ve heard of Dudman’s impressions. To my ear it basically sounds like the Doctors have a sour throat.
With Short Trips I don’t usually care all that much about the impression, sometimes the impressions being wrong adds to it in a oddly charming way (Sarah Sutton’s take on Tegan in The Mistpuddle Murders last year is a prime example of that), but as both these stories have been written in a ‘full-cast’ way as opposed to third person narration there is more of a burden on these impressions.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 5, 2019 12:33:47 GMT
Remember it took people a while to get used to Treloar's 3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 13:58:41 GMT
Whether you like it or not, character vocal impressions don't exactly have to match the original actors, especially when it comes to narrating a Short Trip or some other audiobook. Take Nick Briggs doing the Ninth Doctor, it's not like Christopher Eccleston at all but at least he has attempted to sound as close as he could. Same with Jake Dudman doing Twelve, I know he sounds more like David Tennant (with his native Scottish accent) but his take on Peter Capaldi still indicates who he's trying to portray.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 17:15:39 GMT
I haven't listened to any of Dudman's Capaldi until now, and I get why it doesn't work for some people. In order for him to get the depth of Capaldi's voice, I think Dudman tends to lose the Scottishness of the voice. When he reaches more into Capaldi's higher register, that's when the Scottish starts to come through. The only issue with the Scottish accent is that it is very wide ranging. Just compare Sylvester McCoy, David Tennant, and Peter Capaldi. They're all Scottish, but they all sound very different. I think Dudman tends toward a different version of the accent to Capaldi's. It's a bit like how Nick Briggs does a "standard" Scottish accent in Forever Fallen - yes, it's Scottish, but it doesn't sound anything like McCoy. How dare you Scotsplain to people! Tennant and Capaldi have pretty much the same accent but Capaldi's working class North Glasgow sounds rougher, and he leans into it more depending on the project, than Tennant's slightly posher suburbs of Glasgow, heading out to Paisley accent - as befits a minister's son. It's like a cockney gangster film and a Hugh Grant rom-com - both use London accents but some are working class East-end and some Chelsea/Notting Hill posh. Moffat's got pretty much the same accent as Capaldi and Tennant too, as does Barrowman when using his real one and Michelle Gomez when using hers. They all come from quite a small part of Scotland, in Glasgow and the surrounding areas and it's quite odd they all came up in Who around the same time. Tartan mafia, indeed! But they're all broadly Glaswegian accents. A totally different Scottish accent would be like the Edinburgh ones you'll hear in Trainspotting which I barely understand even though they're an hour up the road. Dundee different again, Aberdeen again..... McCoy's from Dunoon, which is only about 30-ish miles from where Capaldi, Tennant, Moffat, Gomez and Barrowman's accents are from but they do have a much softer accent out there. It's also the home of The Red Hot Chilli Pipers...but we don't like to talk about that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 17:24:42 GMT
So these Short Trips teasers are the first I’ve heard of Dudman’s impressions. To my ear it basically sounds like the Doctors have a sour throat. With Short Trips I don’t usually care all that much about the impression, sometimes the impressions being wrong adds to it in a oddly charming way (Sarah Sutton’s take on Tegan in The Mistpuddle Murders last year is a prime example of that), but as both these stories have been written in a ‘full-cast’ way as opposed to third person narration there is more of a burden on these impressions. I think there's two kind of catergories. One, where the narration is by a companion who knew and worked with that Doctor. They're impersonating their friend and colleague so there's a lot more understanding that they can't be the best soundalikes all the time but there's a charm into hearing an actor impersonate the Doctor they worked with half a century ago. The other category would be like Jake Dudman where he's been brought in not for any connection to the show or the actors but strictly because he can impersonate, approximate, some of their voices well. As I said elsewhere Tim Treolar falls in that category too but I think he's an actor who can sound like Jon Pertwee first and foremost, I believe his performances. While Jake...well, he's a really good mimic but he never quite pulls off the dramatic side. Since they've been employed to actually sound like the Doctors they depict, I think it's reasonable people are a bit pickier than with, say, Sarah Sutton doing Davison in an ST or Maureen O'Brien doing Hartnell in a CC.
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Post by Ela on Aug 7, 2019 15:23:22 GMT
I haven't listened to any of Dudman's Capaldi until now, and I get why it doesn't work for some people. In order for him to get the depth of Capaldi's voice, I think Dudman tends to lose the Scottishness of the voice. When he reaches more into Capaldi's higher register, that's when the Scottish starts to come through. The only issue with the Scottish accent is that it is very wide ranging. Just compare Sylvester McCoy, David Tennant, and Peter Capaldi. They're all Scottish, but they all sound very different. I think Dudman tends toward a different version of the accent to Capaldi's. It's a bit like how Nick Briggs does a "standard" Scottish accent in Forever Fallen - yes, it's Scottish, but it doesn't sound anything like McCoy. How dare you Scotsplain to people! Tennant and Capaldi have pretty much the same accent but Capaldi's working class North Glasgow sounds rougher, and he leans into it more depending on the project, than Tennant's slightly posher suburbs of Glasgow, heading out to Paisley accent - as befits a minister's son. It's like a cockney gangster film and a Hugh Grant rom-com - both use London accents but some are working class East-end and some Chelsea/Notting Hill posh. Moffat's got pretty much the same accent as Capaldi and Tennant too, as does Barrowman when using his real one and Michelle Gomez when using hers. They all come from quite a small part of Scotland, in Glasgow and the surrounding areas and it's quite odd they all came up in Who around the same time. Tartan mafia, indeed! But they're all broadly Glaswegian accents. A totally different Scottish accent would be like the Edinburgh ones you'll hear in Trainspotting which I barely understand even though they're an hour up the road. Dundee different again, Aberdeen again..... McCoy's from Dunoon, which is only about 30-ish miles from where Capaldi, Tennant, Moffat, Gomez and Barrowman's accents are from but they do have a much softer accent out there. It's also the home of The Red Hot Chilli Pipers...but we don't like to talk about that. You forgot to comment on Karen Gillan's accent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 15:48:57 GMT
How dare you Scotsplain to people! Tennant and Capaldi have pretty much the same accent but Capaldi's working class North Glasgow sounds rougher, and he leans into it more depending on the project, than Tennant's slightly posher suburbs of Glasgow, heading out to Paisley accent - as befits a minister's son. It's like a cockney gangster film and a Hugh Grant rom-com - both use London accents but some are working class East-end and some Chelsea/Notting Hill posh. Moffat's got pretty much the same accent as Capaldi and Tennant too, as does Barrowman when using his real one and Michelle Gomez when using hers. They all come from quite a small part of Scotland, in Glasgow and the surrounding areas and it's quite odd they all came up in Who around the same time. Tartan mafia, indeed! But they're all broadly Glaswegian accents. A totally different Scottish accent would be like the Edinburgh ones you'll hear in Trainspotting which I barely understand even though they're an hour up the road. Dundee different again, Aberdeen again..... McCoy's from Dunoon, which is only about 30-ish miles from where Capaldi, Tennant, Moffat, Gomez and Barrowman's accents are from but they do have a much softer accent out there. It's also the home of The Red Hot Chilli Pipers...but we don't like to talk about that. You forgot to comment on Karen Gillan's accent. She's Inverness...that's practically in Norway!
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Post by dangerwillrobinson on Aug 9, 2019 10:40:44 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Aug 9, 2019 10:46:06 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on Aug 9, 2019 11:43:30 GMT
Mark Reynolds is a Jon Pertwee impersonator, which is a little odd, given we have Tim Treolar and his fantastic performance. Still, it’s nice to have another Third Doctor and Sarah Jane story; we don’t have many of those.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 9, 2019 13:07:12 GMT
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Post by xlozdob on Aug 9, 2019 13:13:29 GMT
I'm really considering subscribing to the Short Trips Range next year. These all sound amazing!
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Post by mark687 on Aug 9, 2019 13:41:55 GMT
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