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Post by aztec on Oct 26, 2018 11:03:03 GMT
I do wonder why BF didn't just stick with Companion Chronicles and short trips for the first three Doctors rather than going down the decisive route of recasting, I may be in a minority but I liked the format of the CC's and find the narration and focus on the companions an interesting way of working round the Doctors absence rather than simply just doing more 4x25 minute stories.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 22:40:17 GMT
The Companion Chronicles were cancelled because of low sales, I believe.
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Post by TimPendragon on Oct 27, 2018 8:33:15 GMT
Trying to sort out my buying/listening budget and schedule, and I'm looking at the 3DAs. Other than say, The Light at the End, is there any "recommended listening" I should hear before diving into this range?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 8:53:39 GMT
... is there any "recommended listening" I should hear before diving into this range? If you like Daleks, Volume 3 of the 3DA's is quite good, The Conquest of Far being exceptionally good... if you prefer Cybermen you might prefer Volune 4. But of what I've heard of the 'Third Doctor Adventures', Volume 3 was definitely the most enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 8:56:22 GMT
Trying to sort out my buying/listening budget and schedule, and I'm looking at the 3DAs. Other than say, The Light at the End, is there any "recommended listening" I should hear before diving into this range? Everyone has a different favourite but a sure they might all agree there is something good to e found in any of the Tim Treloar box sets i really have enjoyed them all But Tyrants is my favourite though but that in no way detracts from the merits of the rest.If in Doubt pick a number any number 😂
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Post by TimPendragon on Oct 27, 2018 8:58:50 GMT
... is there any "recommended listening" I should hear before diving into this range? If you like Daleks, Volume 3 of the 3DA's is quite good, The Conquest of Far being exceptionally good... if you prefer Cybermen you might prefer Volune 4. But of what I've heard of the 'Third Doctor Adventures', Volume 3 was definitely the most enjoyable. Thanks for that heads up, but that's...not quite what I was asking. I wasn't looking for recommendations within the range. I meant, are there any audios that should be listened to, for story reasons, before starting on the 3DAs? Like how I wouldn't want to start, say, Jago & Litefoot or Vienna without hearing The Mahogany Murders or The Shadow Heart first...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 9:10:10 GMT
If you like Daleks, Volume 3 of the 3DA's is quite good, The Conquest of Far being exceptionally good... if you prefer Cybermen you might prefer Volune 4. But of what I've heard of the 'Third Doctor Adventures', Volume 3 was definitely the most enjoyable. Thanks for that heads up, but that's...not quite what I was asking. I wasn't looking for recommendations within the range. I meant, are there any audios that should be listened to, for story reasons, before starting on the 3DAs? Like how I wouldn't want to start, say, Jago & Litefoot or Vienna without hearing The Mahogany Murders or The Shadow Heart first... There is nothing that immediately springs to mind though Conquest of Far does immediately take off from the ending of Planet of the Daleks tv show
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 9:25:29 GMT
If you like Daleks, Volume 3 of the 3DA's is quite good, The Conquest of Far being exceptionally good... if you prefer Cybermen you might prefer Volune 4. But of what I've heard of the 'Third Doctor Adventures', Volume 3 was definitely the most enjoyable. Thanks for that heads up, but that's...not quite what I was asking. I wasn't looking for recommendations within the range. I meant, are there any audios that should be listened to, for story reasons, before starting on the 3DAs? Like how I wouldn't want to start, say, Jago & Litefoot or Vienna without hearing The Mahogany Murders or The Shadow Heart first... Oh, in that case I'd say no, as they are all self-contained stories... so you can just jump straight in and listen away.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 9:54:00 GMT
I'm not a fan of the Pertwee era on TV, but I absolutely love the Third Doctor audio adventures, 'The Conquest Of Far' is just brilliant. For me recasting on audio is fine as long as the actor sounds like the original, however I wouldn't like to see 'visual' recasting. Tim does an amazing 3rd Doctor, it's almost like Jon Pertwee was in the studio. Lets face it none or the original actors truly sound like they did back in the day. Louise Jameson IMO being the worst, she just sounds old, older, and nothing like Leela at all to my ear.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 27, 2018 10:06:48 GMT
I'm not a fan of the Pertwee era on TV, but I absolutely love the Third Doctor audio adventures, 'The Conquest Of Far' is just brilliant. For me recasting on audio is fine as long as the actor sounds like the original, however I wouldn't like to see 'visual' recasting. Tim does an amazing 3rd Doctor, it's almost like Jon Pertwee was in the studio. Lets face it none or the original actors truly sound like they did back in the day. Louise Jameson IMO being the worst, she just sounds old, older, and nothing like Leela at all to my ear. Some people still sound quite reminiscent of their voices in the original series. Sarah Sutton and Mark Strickson jump immediately to mind, also Peter Purves sounds very similar still. Heck, even Anneke Wills can bring back Polly pretty effortlessly! You are right about Louise though, she's not quite got the same voice any more (though Lalla Ward still sounds identical, so it's always a bit weird listening to the differences between them in Gallifrey ).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 10:12:04 GMT
I'm not a fan of the Pertwee era on TV, but I absolutely love the Third Doctor audio adventures, 'The Conquest Of Far' is just brilliant. For me recasting on audio is fine as long as the actor sounds like the original, however I wouldn't like to see 'visual' recasting. Tim does an amazing 3rd Doctor, it's almost like Jon Pertwee was in the studio. Lets face it none or the original actors truly sound like they did back in the day. Louise Jameson IMO being the worst, she just sounds old, older, and nothing like Leela at all to my ear. Some people still sound quite reminiscent of their voices in the original series. Sarah Sutton and Mark Strickson jump immediately to mind, also Peter Purves sounds very similar still. Heck, even Anneke Wills can bring back Polly pretty effortlessly! You are right about Louise though, she's not quite got the same voice any more (though Lalla Ward still sounds identical, so it's always a bit weird listening to the differences between them in Gallifrey ). Yes you're right on reflection, Sarah Sutton does sound the same, there are exceptions
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Post by number13 on Oct 28, 2018 10:23:31 GMT
I'm not a fan of the Pertwee era on TV, but I absolutely love the Third Doctor audio adventures, 'The Conquest Of Far' is just brilliant. For me recasting on audio is fine as long as the actor sounds like the original, however I wouldn't like to see 'visual' recasting. Tim does an amazing 3rd Doctor, it's almost like Jon Pertwee was in the studio. Lets face it none or the original actors truly sound like they did back in the day. Louise Jameson IMO being the worst, she just sounds old, older, and nothing like Leela at all to my ear. Some people still sound quite reminiscent of their voices in the original series. Sarah Sutton and Mark Strickson jump immediately to mind, also Peter Purves sounds very similar still. Heck, even Anneke Wills can bring back Polly pretty effortlessly! You are right about Louise though, she's not quite got the same voice any more (though Lalla Ward still sounds identical, so it's always a bit weird listening to the differences between them in Gallifrey ). The younger actors from the 80s have the advantage in terms of Time, but yes I agree Peter Purves and Anneke Wills (First Doctor companions!) roll back Time amazingly well all the way to the 60s and their CCs and EAs are always highlights for me and maybe that's partly why. Louise Jameson I could listen to for hours in any role and it depends which Leela we are hearing - 4DAs Leela sounds much younger to me than late Gallifrey Leela, as she should. Experience changes the voice as well as age.
Some of it's down to the listener of course: when Katy Manning is playing Jo, I know it's not quite the same voice I hear when watching 'Terror of the Autons', yet in my mind's ear she's not in a BF sound booth but still running around some freezing quarry or other with Jon Pertwee, wearing the height of 70s fashion and alternately getting rescued and saving the Doctor every other episode! Our childhood TV heroes are forever young.
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Post by avgjoefriday on Oct 28, 2018 18:58:59 GMT
This is indeed exciting news. And I am glad Big Finish has begun considering more recasts.
I love and miss the original actors and love being able to once again enjoy their characters... even in their absence. I am so excited about the Brig being back and hope he appears across many of the ranges.
I hope Sarah Jane Smith, Romana I and Delgado Master get recasts soon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 19:59:27 GMT
I think they might be comfortable with recasts in this range and the Early Adventures because they're both led by Doctors who are recasts to begin with. Tom acting alongside a recast Sarah Jane or Romana might be a more difficult sell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 20:15:09 GMT
Tom acting alongside a recast Sarah Jane or Romana might be a more difficult sell. Personally, I'd hate that to be honest. Tom has plenty of living companions so I don't see the need to have him acting alongside a recast companion... others might feel differently of course, but yeah, a recast SJS would definitely be a difficult sell to me.
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Post by constonks on Oct 29, 2018 2:59:15 GMT
As someone who is mostly for recasts, I don't really see the point in recasting Mary Tamm's Romana. There are obviously differences between her performance and Lalla's, but I don't think a Romana I story would be all that different on paper from a Romana II story.
As for Sarah Jane, I'm rather hesitant there too - and I think most people would be. The Brig is as much of an icon as she, but he is, as others have pointed out, a larger-than-life character. Sarah feels much more like an extension of Lis Sladen.
Delgado's Master I'm more open to - but would be just as happy with Geoffrey Beevers' incarnation from the flashback in The Two Masters!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 7:17:00 GMT
I think BF have enough Masters without recasting Delgado - I really wouldn't be surprised to see Beevers turn up in a future volume of 3DAs.
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Post by TimPendragon on Oct 29, 2018 7:21:37 GMT
I think BF have enough Masters without recasting Delgado - I really wouldn't be surprised to see Beevers turn up in a future volume of 3DAs. Agreed, for the most part. The only advantage of recasting Delgado's Master, to me, would be to return him to that more intelligent kind of villainy, rather than the maniacal monster he became in later incarnations. Beevers' version seems to teeter on the edge between the two sometimes, but more often than not, tends towards the scenery-chewing of Ainley.
Watching more of the Pertwee era lately for the first time in years, I'm wishing for more of the "smart, calculating Master" and less of the "frothing at the mouth Master."
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 29, 2018 17:55:38 GMT
I do wonder why BF didn't just stick with Companion Chronicles and short trips for the first three Doctors rather than going down the decisive route of recasting, I may be in a minority but I liked the format of the CC's and find the narration and focus on the companions an interesting way of working round the Doctors absence rather than simply just doing more 4x25 minute stories. I’d bet dollars to donuts that full cast sells better than enhanced audio books. And donuts!
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Post by constonks on Oct 29, 2018 23:02:25 GMT
I think BF have enough Masters without recasting Delgado - I really wouldn't be surprised to see Beevers turn up in a future volume of 3DAs. Agreed, for the most part. The only advantage of recasting Delgado's Master, to me, would be to return him to that more intelligent kind of villainy, rather than the maniacal monster he became in later incarnations. Beevers' version seems to teeter on the edge between the two sometimes, but more often than not, tends towards the scenery-chewing of Ainley.
Watching more of the Pertwee era lately for the first time in years, I'm wishing for more of the "smart, calculating Master" and less of the "frothing at the mouth Master."
I could see pre-burnt Beevers being a little more charming and chessmastery, though - I think it's the survival madness that eats away at the Master's aristocratic façade.
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