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Post by grinch on Jul 15, 2020 18:17:10 GMT
I actually wrote into the podcast to ask why this story wasn’t a box set. However I wasn’t surprised my question wasn’t answered, but I would have been fully on board with a Seventh Doctor: Dark Universe series. It honestly does feel like this was originally pitched as a boxset but for whatever reason was instead reworked into a monthly range. Possibly complete twaddle but there’s so much just missing in between that second and third part in terms of story. I mean, a universe ruled by the Eleven (compared to someone such as The Master) I think would be worth exploring. Like I said though, it does have its merits (really liked how they used the Eight in this) but yeah, just odd.
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Post by mbt66 on Jul 15, 2020 19:07:42 GMT
I actually wrote into the podcast to ask why this story wasn’t a box set. However I wasn’t surprised my question wasn’t answered, but I would have been fully on board with a Seventh Doctor: Dark Universe series. It honestly does feel like this was originally pitched as a boxset but for whatever reason was instead reworked into a monthly range. Possibly complete twaddle but there’s so much just missing in between that second and third part in terms of story. I mean, a universe ruled by the Eleven (compared to someone such as The Master) I think would be worth exploring. Like I said though, it does have its merits (really liked how they used the Eight in this) but yeah, just odd. Don’t get me wrong I really enjoyed what we got. Just like any fan I always want more!
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Post by xlozdob on Jul 15, 2020 21:03:00 GMT
Maybe it should've been an MR trilogy or at least a duology, like Shadow of the Daleks, if they wanted to keep it in the MR.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 14:16:30 GMT
Well it’s been a while and in my mind this has been released prior to any knowledge of DOOM COALITION...and it’s been a while since I listened so here goes again with the first meeting of The Eleven_should I know him? I think we get a bit of Ace after she left the Doctors and what has occurred in the 20 years she last saw him which is kind of nice.I always thought before this release that she would have been sacrificed in one of 7’s schemes.(let’s be honest it’s unwritten territory Really)At least there has been an attempt on ageing her except Sophie has been blessed with youthful vocal chords lol Given this is my first meeting with him or meant to be all I get is he is slightly mad with the usual mad schemes,wiping out the Daleks,controlling the Cybermen,bringing the Time Lords to their knees,War with the Sontarans in which he himself clones himself at his worst)all of which is synopsis for a box set story.We never really get to know the threat of the Dark Universe Inhabitants if so all powerful...let’s be honest the SONTAR-HA——— is one of the funniest lines at the demise of an enemy. I really enjoyed Sylvester as the jester this time...full of court intrigue.
Definitely a lot more enjoyable in the relisten than the original one...
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Post by grinch on Dec 23, 2020 15:15:43 GMT
To be honest, I always thought a universe ruled by the Eleven would be a bit more chaotic. The laws of physics changing on a whim, species rapidly shifting through their life cycles, creatures which didn’t exist now suddenly do or always have.. You know, proper Wonderland stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 15:24:22 GMT
So I won't call this a bad story it just feels like I've watched the World Cup Final....in highlights. I'd like to have seen the whole match, please. And yes that about sums this up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 15:49:59 GMT
To be honest, I always thought a universe ruled by the Eleven would be a bit more chaotic. The laws of physics changing on a whim, species rapidly shifting through their life cycles, creatures which didn’t exist now suddenly do or always have.. You know, proper Wonderland stuff. Well he can still be mined as this wasn’t the 7ths first encounter with him but was Aces first so plenty of scope for his madness to permeate anywhere they feel like and there is still -lefty of scope for the Dark Empire as they did leave pockets behind in our universe so they have a foothold
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Post by mbt66 on Dec 23, 2020 16:58:16 GMT
I hope the reason we didn’t get a boxset series of Dark Universe starring Sylvester McCoy was because Big Finish had already planned Dalek Universe starring David Tennant, so they didn’t want to confuse those easily befuddled customers!?
I don’t know what Big Finish have planned for the Seventh Doctor going forward, (as everyone knows they are being very cagey about their plans for all the previous main range Doctors), but it will be something special if they have releases and stories ready for him that they believe are better then the potential that a Dark Universe set of releases had to offer...
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Post by grinch on Dec 23, 2020 17:06:03 GMT
I hope the reason we didn’t get a boxset series of Dark Universe starring Sylvester McCoy was because Big Finish had already planned Dalek Universe starring David Tennant, so they didn’t want to confuse those easily befuddled customers!? I don’t know what Big Finish have planned for the Seventh Doctor going forward, (as everyone knows they are being very cagey about their plans for all the previous main range Doctors), but it will be something special if they have releases and stories ready for him that they believe are better then the potential that a Dark Universe set of releases had to offer... I’m personally just hoping they don’t retcon the Seventh Doctor’s regeneration by saying something along the lines of The Dark Citizens manipulated Time so that his TARDIS would land in the midst of a gunfight or that he deliberately chose to step outside die to stop some ancient evil or something like that. I know that’s not what they were originally intending but I do love the fact that this incarnation of the Doctor, a Machiavellian genius gets killed through pure and simple bad luck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 17:26:08 GMT
I hope the reason we didn’t get a boxset series of Dark Universe starring Sylvester McCoy was because Big Finish had already planned Dalek Universe starring David Tennant, so they didn’t want to confuse those easily befuddled customers!? I don’t know what Big Finish have planned for the Seventh Doctor going forward, (as everyone knows they are being very cagey about their plans for all the previous main range Doctors), but it will be something special if they have releases and stories ready for him that they believe are better then the potential that a Dark Universe set of releases had to offer... I’m personally just hoping they don’t retcon the Seventh Doctor’s regeneration by saying something along the lines of The Dark Citizens manipulated Time so that his TARDIS would land in the midst of a gunfight or that he deliberately chose to step outside die to stop some ancient evil or something like that. I know that’s not what they were originally intending but I do love the fact that this incarnation of the Doctor, a Machiavellian genius gets killed through pure and simple bad luck. I personally loved Sylvesters end in the movie all those years of manipulation and manoeuvring and bullets...in an alleyway...how apt. as for his deal with the Devil...any incarnation can take that up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 20:46:10 GMT
I’m personally just hoping they don’t retcon the Seventh Doctor’s regeneration by saying something along the lines of The Dark Citizens manipulated Time so that his TARDIS would land in the midst of a gunfight or that he deliberately chose to step outside die to stop some ancient evil or something like that. I know that’s not what they were originally intending but I do love the fact that this incarnation of the Doctor, a Machiavellian genius gets killed through pure and simple bad luck. I personally loved Sylvesters end in the movie all those years of manipulation and manoeuvring and bullets...in an alleyway...how apt. as for his deal with the Devil...any incarnation can take that up Isn't that just the popular misconception though? He wasn't killed by the bullets but the surgery, where they used defibrillators on him, as a result of misreading what his double heart beat meant. That's more fun anyway - the only Doc killed by his companion. Unless we're counting a certain Unbound Doctor and companion - and there was quite a bit of Doctorcide in that one .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 20:51:52 GMT
I personally loved Sylvesters end in the movie all those years of manipulation and manoeuvring and bullets...in an alleyway...how apt. Isn't that just the popular misconception though? Yeah, it's a bit like the Seventh Doctor 'destroyed Skaro' misconception...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 5:33:21 GMT
I personally loved Sylvesters end in the movie all those years of manipulation and manoeuvring and bullets...in an alleyway...how apt. as for his deal with the Devil...any incarnation can take that up Isn't that just the popular misconception though? He wasn't killed by the bullets but the surgery, where they used defibrillators on him, as a result of misreading what his double heart beat meant. That's more fun anyway - the only Doc killed by his companion. Unless we're counting a certain Unbound Doctor and companion - and there was quite a bit of Doctorcide in that one . Hahah yes suppose you are right 😉
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Post by slithe on Dec 24, 2020 11:28:12 GMT
I’m personally just hoping they don’t retcon the Seventh Doctor’s regeneration by saying something along the lines of The Dark Citizens manipulated Time so that his TARDIS would land in the midst of a gunfight or that he deliberately chose to step outside die to stop some ancient evil or something like that. I know that’s not what they were originally intending but I do love the fact that this incarnation of the Doctor, a Machiavellian genius gets killed through pure and simple bad luck. I personally loved Sylvesters end in the movie all those years of manipulation and manoeuvring and bullets...in an alleyway...how apt. as for his deal with the Devil...any incarnation can take that up There's a wonderful scene in The Death Collectors where the Seventh Doctor hears the aria of Madame Butterfly and shouts that he will not die with that music playing... Delicious irony. I love the fact that the Seventh Doctor ends up getting caught out by something so simple... Or does he? Wouldn't the ultimate manipulator control everything, even right down to the time of his regeneration? (Especially if, as has been hinted at in other media, this incarnation played a role in the end of his Sixth incarnation?)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 16:11:42 GMT
I personally loved Sylvesters end in the movie all those years of manipulation and manoeuvring and bullets...in an alleyway...how apt. as for his deal with the Devil...any incarnation can take that up There's a wonderful scene in The Death Collectors where the Seventh Doctor hears the aria of Madame Butterfly and shouts that he will not die with that music playing... Delicious irony. I love the fact that the Seventh Doctor ends up getting caught out by something so simple... Or does he? Wouldn't the ultimate manipulator control everything, even right down to the time of his regeneration? (Especially if, as has been hinted at in other media, this incarnation played a role in the end of his Sixth incarnation?) I was trying to remember where that scene with Madam Butterfly was 👍👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 16:12:40 GMT
Isn't that just the popular misconception though? Yeah, it's a bit like the Seventh Doctor 'destroyed Skaro' misconception... well if I remember it was the sun wasn’t it...but hell he knew whAT he was doing lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 18:38:07 GMT
Yeah, it's a bit like the Seventh Doctor 'destroyed Skaro' misconception... well if I remember it was the sun wasn’t it...but hell he knew whAT he was doing lol Nope, the Seventh Doctor didn't destroy anything (be it Skaro or Antalin) Davros did... that's the popular misconception!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 18:39:49 GMT
well if I remember it was the sun wasn’t it...but hell he knew whAT he was doing lol Nope, the Seventh Doctor didn't destroy anything (be it Skaro or Antalin) Davros did... that's the popular misconception! You will need to explain that lol 😉 save me going back to watch Remembrance 😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 18:41:31 GMT
Nope, the Seventh Doctor didn't destroy anything (be it Skaro or Antalin) Davros did... that's the popular misconception! You will need to explain that lol 😉 Go watch the episode!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 18:41:55 GMT
You will need to explain that lol 😉 Go watch the episode! See above 😂😂😂
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