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Post by Ela on Jan 7, 2016 19:43:51 GMT
So those of you who ordered, was it worth it? I'm still thinking about it, still put off by the price. Especially if I get the CD limited edition plus shipping to the US, which adds up to almost $65.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 7, 2016 19:56:06 GMT
So those of you who ordered, was it worth it? I'm still thinking about it, still put off by the price. Especially if I get the CD limited edition plus shipping to the US, which adds up to almost $65. I'm very glad I got it because it's an excellent Boxset. Do I think it's worth the price? Download only - definitely NOT! For the CD package - probably (as you get extra download stuff from BF) and the book (if that interests you). Price with shipping for you? That's a hard one, worth it if you love the Prisoner or if you can sell the CDs on I think. Cheers Tony
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Post by Ela on Jan 7, 2016 20:07:04 GMT
So those of you who ordered, was it worth it? I'm still thinking about it, still put off by the price. Especially if I get the CD limited edition plus shipping to the US, which adds up to almost $65. I'm very glad I got it because it's an excellent Boxset. Do I think it's worth the price? Download only - definitely NOT! For the CD package - probably (as you get extra download stuff from BF) and the book (if that interests you). Price with shipping for you? That's a hard one, worth it if you love the Prisoner or if you can sell the CDs on I think. Cheers Tony When you say download only is not worth it, keep in mind that there is a big difference between download price and CD price for US purchasers: $35 for download, $58.78 for CD (I seem to remember it was originally $65 plus shipping, but maybe they decided to lower it a little because of the shipping cost). We are not talking the £5 price differential that UK listeners are getting.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jan 7, 2016 20:15:40 GMT
I'm very glad I got it because it's an excellent Boxset. Do I think it's worth the price? Download only - definitely NOT! For the CD package - probably (as you get extra download stuff from BF) and the book (if that interests you). Price with shipping for you? That's a hard one, worth it if you love the Prisoner or if you can sell the CDs on I think. Cheers Tony When you say download only is not worth it, keep in mind that there is a big difference between download price and CD price for US purchasers: $35 for download, $58.78 for CD (I seem to remember it was originally $65 plus shipping, but maybe they decided to lower it a little because of the shipping cost). We are not talking the £5 price differential that UK listeners are getting. $65 is cheap!! For us Canadians the CD is $81.87 while the download remains $35. Granted our dollar has really lost value over the past year, when I look at the exchange rate these days it makes me seriously reconsider any out of country purchases - thankfully the BF downloads are easier on the wallet than the disks.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 7, 2016 20:22:31 GMT
When you say download only is not worth it, keep in mind that there is a big difference between download price and CD price for US purchasers: $35 for download, $58.78 for CD (I seem to remember it was originally $65 plus shipping, but maybe they decided to lower it a little because of the shipping cost). We are not talking the £5 price differential that UK listeners are getting. $65 is cheap!! For us Canadians the CD is $81.87 while the download remains $35. Granted our dollar has really lost value over the past year, when I look at the exchange rate these days it makes me seriously reconsider any out of country purchases - thankfully the BF downloads are easier on the wallet than the disks. Ah, I forgot about that. So $35 US equates to about £24 GBP - I would have bought it for that (without hearing it first). That's only £4 more than a normal Boxset download for us. Providing you aren't bothered about the book (and it's limited number) I would say it's worth it (altho' I don't know what you class as a good price for downloads lol) Cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 20:30:53 GMT
So, for the hard copy:
$81.87 canadian is £39.77 $58.78 US is £40.21
So, we're all paying almost exactly the same for the hard copy. The ones being screwed are UK downloaders - they're paying £35 which is $51.16 US and $72.06 canadian. Kinda puts that $35 in perspective!
North Americans are getting the hard copy for the same price as UK people but they're also getting the downloads a LOT cheaper.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 7, 2016 20:35:20 GMT
A better judge of worth (In my opinion), rather than exchange rate, but average wage. I only bring that up, because in some ways it isn't fair to say that the US gets it cheaper, but on average we do work the same amount of time to earn that money. Yay, math.
From what I can find, the Average hourly wage in the UK is roughly 13 pounds. the Average wage in the US is roughly 13 Dollars. (I have no figures for Canada, sorry). So, it's roughly equal in the amount of time someone in the UK has to work, to the amount of time someone in the US has to work, if one were to purchase the Download. while BF will make less on the sale to the US Market, the person in the US has to work roughly the same amount of time.
If we move that to the physical value, it's roughly three hours of work for the average worker in the UK to afford 40 pound physical product. it would be roughly four and a half hours for the US worker to earn the 58 dollars for the current physical price, before Shipping and handling.
Sorry for that, I get distracted by things, and thought this was interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 20:51:16 GMT
It's kinda semantics either way we cut it - neither side of the Atlantic is liking this pricing structure, or at least not having a budget option.
Someone with zero knowledge of the range being asked to START with a big, honking deluxe set is kinda off and - crucially - completely out of kilter with each and every other range...EVER. We only got these deluxe boxes in Who after over a decade of BF. They built the fanbase for them.
Kickstarting a new range with a premium deluxe release just feels completely wrong to me.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 7, 2016 21:09:19 GMT
For me the issue isn't about the cost for the physical package. £40 isn't bad for a deluxe limited boxset. It's about flogging the download version for £5 less. Fair enough the download comes with a couple of extras but you get them if you buy the physical package from BF anyway because you get access to the same downloads. The download version isn't limited and isn't deluxe owing to the fact that the deluxe book is not part of it (PDF anyone?). If you look at the pricing for the other limited editions, the download version tends to be £20-£25 cheaper than the physical edition. This seems to be a much more realistic pricing structure for the differences between a deluxe physical and (standard) download. At £20 - £25 I would expect more people to buy the download and try the range. In the UK at least, the current price will put people off.
You can look at it another way. In the UK it's better value to get the physical Boxset while in the US (and probably other countries) it's better value to get the download.
Now my head hurts...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 21:26:11 GMT
For me the issue isn't about the cost for the physical package. £40 isn't bad for a deluxe limited boxset. It's about flogging the download version for £5 less. Fair enough the download comes with a couple of extras but you get them if you buy the physical package from BF anyway because you get access to the same downloads. The download version isn't limited and isn't deluxe owing to the fact that the deluxe book is not part of it (PDF anyone?). If you look at the pricing for the other limited editions, the download version tends to be £20-£25 cheaper than the physical edition. This seems to be a much more realistic pricing structure for the differences between a deluxe physical and (standard) download. At £20 - £25 I would expect more people to buy the download and try the range. In the UK at least, the current price will put people off. You can look at it another way. In the UK it's better value to get the physical Boxset while in the US (and probably other countries) it's better value to get the download. Now my head hurts... Cheers Tony Yeah, I think you're 100% on point. I can't see many slightly more casual listeners laying down £40 for something they may be on the fence about and certainly not £35 for an unlimited download file. As you noted earlier - the Doctor Who deluxe books may have been £40 too but the downloads were nearly half that price. If I were a downloader, it would just look like an astronical price. Of course, the Phil Hinchcliffe box is even more extortionate for the download - £45 - and while I think that's insane, at least you can say there's an existing, huge BF audience for that and adding Hinchcliffe made it something much more desirable.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 7, 2016 21:35:29 GMT
I think we can all agree whatever the price, it's too much for the download. I'd never pay 35 US dollars for this much content.
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 7, 2016 21:43:59 GMT
$65 is cheap!! For us Canadians the CD is $81.87 while the download remains $35. Granted our dollar has really lost value over the past year, when I look at the exchange rate these days it makes me seriously reconsider any out of country purchases - thankfully the BF downloads are easier on the wallet than the disks. Ah, I forgot about that. So $35 US equates to about £24 GBP - I would have bought it for that (without hearing it first). That's only £4 more than a normal Boxset download for us. Providing you aren't bothered about the book (and it's limited number) I would say it's worth it (altho' I don't know what you class as a good price for downloads lol) Cheers Tony Are you sure about that because for us in the US a DL is usually $20 (the latest 10/Donna set was $25) It's a $15 increase in price. Though it may seem unbecoming to complain about the US DL price when UK DL price is a lot more.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jan 7, 2016 21:49:28 GMT
I emailed BF a while back asking if there was any plans to ever include the booklet in with the download as a PDF given a lot of the time the download is also labeled as deluxe or limited as is the CD. The answer I was given was that I was given is that they don't include that material as a PDF to avoid counterfeiting.
Oh, and don't forget - international customers also pay postage, which with some items can come close to double the cost.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 7, 2016 21:52:26 GMT
Ah, I forgot about that. So $35 US equates to about £24 GBP - I would have bought it for that (without hearing it first). That's only £4 more than a normal Boxset download for us. Providing you aren't bothered about the book (and it's limited number) I would say it's worth it (altho' I don't know what you class as a good price for downloads lol) Cheers Tony Are you sure about that because for us in the US a DL is usually $20 (the latest 10/Donna set was $25) It's a $15 increase in price. Though it may seem unbecoming to complain about the US DL price when UK DL price is a lot more. No, I was just saying that if we could get the download price for £24 (equivalent to $35 US), it would only be £4 more expensive than we (in the UK) pay for other boxsets. I can't comment on how much you pay for downloads normally Cheers Tony
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Post by omega on Jan 7, 2016 21:57:46 GMT
Oh, and don't forget - international customers also pay postage, which with some items can come close to double the cost. Books especially. For the Benny books I'd actually pay more in postage than I would the product itself.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 7, 2016 22:04:06 GMT
Oh, and don't forget - international customers also pay postage, which with some items can come close to double the cost. Books especially. For the Benny books I'd actually pay more in postage than I would the product itself. When they did the Sale, I paid more in postage than the books.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 10, 2016 9:32:21 GMT
If anyone's looking for a cheaper option, I've just noticed there are currently two copies for sale on a certain Auction site (not mine, as I'm still waiting for it to arrive lol).
Cheers
Tony
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Post by Ela on Jan 21, 2016 23:20:04 GMT
I'm still considering whether to buy this or not. I liked the trailers, the sneak previews did nothing to convince me. What makes the limited edition box set worth the price as opposed to getting the download? Keep in mind that I'd be paying $35 for the download as opposed to $62.33 (including shipping) for the box set
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 23:33:43 GMT
If you're mostly a download customer, I don't think there's much to sway you otherwise here. That gap is quite a lot between physical and download - enough to buy a whole other BF boxset from another range. However, if you like the BF deluxe book form (they look gorgeous o the shelf as a set) and are a fan of The Prisoner who would like something "tangible" for your cash, go for the book.
None of us know how it's selling but 3000 isn't a hell of a lot once you take into account the BF loyalists, the cult tv fans, The Prisoner fans (it's getting excellent reviews from Six Of One and The Unmutual - THE Prisoner fan clubs) and people who like to snap up something special at conventions and fairs.
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Post by Ela on Jan 22, 2016 1:24:58 GMT
I am mostly a download customer. And I think I'm leaning toward download on this, if I decide to get it at all. I can't justify spending that much money for the physical item.
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