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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 11:35:58 GMT
This is an alteration of my overrated/underrated threads.
I find this story to be bad, having rewatched it recently, and The Caves of Androzani is better.
However, like with me not thinking The Caves of Androzani is the best Doctor Who story ever, I don’t think The Twin Dilemma is the worst story.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 19, 2022 11:39:00 GMT
The novelisation is the best way to experience it imho
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2022 10:30:24 GMT
"The Twin Dilemma - was it really that bad?"
Unfortunately, yes!
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Post by sherlock on Jul 20, 2022 10:42:11 GMT
Yes, yes it is. I watched it in the Twitch streams hoping for some so-bad-it’s-good material. Nope.
Colin Baker tries, bless him, but he alone can’t salvage it.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 20, 2022 11:36:12 GMT
Its an interesting take on the new Doc Companion relationship but its leaden with a dire plot!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2022 11:49:45 GMT
Its an interesting take on the new Doc Companion relationship but its leaden with a dire plot! Regards mark687 I actually thought the plot was alright. I found it a bit easier to follow than The Caves of Androzani's plot.
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jul 20, 2022 13:42:34 GMT
It is a sub-par offering by the production team and it hasn’t had its reputation enhanced any by being the story that follows the universally-adored Caves Of Androzani
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Post by grinch on Jul 20, 2022 20:54:13 GMT
The novelisation is the best way to experience it imho That novelisation is so bizarre. In the first few chapters alone, Saward provides a complete history and so much exposition for everything that is so much as mentioned. Ranging from the academic history of the twin’s father to the brewing of his favourite drink. If anything, I think it shows that Eric Saward missed his true calling as a writer of fluff material for RPGs.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jul 20, 2022 20:58:16 GMT
I don't hate it, but apart from Baker and Bryant, it just reeks of no one actually trying all that hard.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 20, 2022 21:05:23 GMT
The novelisation is the best way to experience it imho That novelisation is so bizarre. In the first few chapters alone, Saward provides a complete history and so much exposition for everything that is so much as mentioned. Ranging from the academic history of the twin’s father to the brewing of his favourite drink. If anything, I think it shows that Eric Saward missed his true calling as a writer of fluff material for RPGs. My Sentiment exactly! Regards mark687
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jul 20, 2022 22:56:37 GMT
The novelisation is the best way to experience it imho That novelisation is so bizarre. In the first few chapters alone, Saward provides a complete history and so much exposition for everything that is so much as mentioned. Ranging from the academic history of the twin’s father to the brewing of his favourite drink. If anything, I think it shows that Eric Saward missed his true calling as a writer of fluff material for RPGs. Writing fluff for bad RPG's - his writing is terrible, his most recent novelizations are proof that he should never be allowed to publish again.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 20, 2022 23:09:50 GMT
The novelisation is the best way to experience it imho That novelisation is so bizarre. In the first few chapters alone, Saward provides a complete history and so much exposition for everything that is so much as mentioned. Ranging from the academic history of the twin’s father to the brewing of his favourite drink. If anything, I think it shows that Eric Saward missed his true calling as a writer of fluff material for RPGs. That may well be true and I won't argue the point, but given that the only other way to experience The Twin Dilemma is to watch the TV story, I stand by my point that the novelisation is the best way to experience this particular story
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lidar2
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 20, 2022 23:11:21 GMT
That novelisation is so bizarre. In the first few chapters alone, Saward provides a complete history and so much exposition for everything that is so much as mentioned. Ranging from the academic history of the twin’s father to the brewing of his favourite drink. If anything, I think it shows that Eric Saward missed his true calling as a writer of fluff material for RPGs. Writing fluff for bad RPG's - his writing is terrible, his most recent novelizations are proof that he should never be allowed to publish again. Attack of the Cybermen remains one of my favourite novels. I love the way Charlie Griffiths becomes the hero of the story.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jul 20, 2022 23:13:23 GMT
Writing fluff for bad RPG's - his writing is terrible, his most recent novelizations are proof that he should never be allowed to publish again. Attack of the Cybermen remains one of my favourite novels. I love the way Charlie Griffiths becomes the hero of the story. Resurrection of the Daleks and Revelation of the Daleks were so painful they had me wishing I had never learned to read.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 20, 2022 23:56:46 GMT
To answer the original question: "Yes" And I admire Colin.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jul 21, 2022 0:00:57 GMT
To answer the original question: "Yes" And I admire Colin. I'm touched. Not sure what I've done to earn your admiration, but I hope I can continue to be worthy of it.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 21, 2022 0:31:42 GMT
To answer the original question: "Yes" And I admire Colin. I'm touched. Not sure what I've done to earn your admiration, but I hope I can continue to be worthy of it. you just made me smile. Keep at it.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 21, 2022 1:00:56 GMT
As someone who is legally a twin.. We don't act like robots..
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 21, 2022 2:03:52 GMT
As someone who is legally a twin.. We don't act like robots.. I would not exactly call that "acting" what they did there
EDIT: I think the only valid way of watching this is having the audio commentary on. Colin is always value for money and at least with the commentary, there is some fun to be had
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 21, 2022 2:04:46 GMT
As someone who is legally a twin.. We don't act like robots.. I would not exactly call that "acting" what they did there An assault on the eyes LOLZ
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