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Post by polly on Feb 29, 2020 5:56:54 GMT
I'm not sure how well Eric Idle would fare against a Sontaran battle fleet..
Watched The Invisible Enemy tonight. I had basically zero memory of that other than K9.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 6:21:35 GMT
I'm not sure how well Eric Idle would fare against a Sontaran battle fleet.. Watched The Invisible Enemy tonight. I had basically zero memory of that other than K9. Depends... He's played Rincewind in the Discworld games, so there might be magic involved. How good are Sontarans against wizards? I've a strange Mandela Effect story that goes along with The Invisible Enemy. Two years after it, Bob Holmes wrote up a similar script called "Killer" that also followed a viral outbreak. Somehow, I mixed the two together. I had vivid memories of the autopsy from "Killer" and the drones from Enemy all mixed together into one. K9 belonged to the untrustworthy base commander, but Marius had grown fond of the old dog, so it spent much of its time in the medbays. It's a bizarre feeling when you're revisiting a story you saw once ages ago and half the cast have seemingly disappeared without explanation. Funny how the brain links things together.
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Post by polly on Feb 29, 2020 20:07:19 GMT
Depends... He's played Rincewind in the Discworld games, so there might be magic involved. How good are Sontarans against wizards? I've a strange Mandela Effect story that goes along with The Invisible Enemy. Two years after it, Bob Holmes wrote up a similar script called "Killer" that also followed a viral outbreak. Somehow, I mixed the two together. I had vivid memories of the autopsy from "Killer" and the drones from Enemy all mixed together into one. K9 belonged to the untrustworthy base commander, but Marius had grown fond of the old dog, so it spent much of its time in the medbays. It's a bizarre feeling when you're revisiting a story you saw once ages ago and half the cast have seemingly disappeared without explanation. Funny how the brain links things together. Oh, that's weird. Memory's a funny thing for sure. I don't think I've ever had a mash-up quite that bad, but when I reread To Kill a Mockingbird a while back, I remembered little scenes like Scout playing in the snow and totally forgot the verdict of the trial. I told my husband that and he looked at me like I was from the moon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 22:17:58 GMT
Depends... He's played Rincewind in the Discworld games, so there might be magic involved. How good are Sontarans against wizards? I've a strange Mandela Effect story that goes along with The Invisible Enemy. Two years after it, Bob Holmes wrote up a similar script called "Killer" that also followed a viral outbreak. Somehow, I mixed the two together. I had vivid memories of the autopsy from "Killer" and the drones from Enemy all mixed together into one. K9 belonged to the untrustworthy base commander, but Marius had grown fond of the old dog, so it spent much of its time in the medbays. It's a bizarre feeling when you're revisiting a story you saw once ages ago and half the cast have seemingly disappeared without explanation. Funny how the brain links things together. Oh, that's weird. Memory's a funny thing for sure. I don't think I've ever had a mash-up quite that bad, but when I reread To Kill a Mockingbird a while back, I remembered little scenes like Scout playing in the snow and totally forgot the verdict of the trial. I told my husband that and he looked at me like I was from the moon. I think it's a side-effect of being a structural editor in my case. It's a vocation that requires a lot of lateral thinking with regard to how stories are put together. Passengers, I think is the most recent infamous example of a story that could've benefitted from a structural edit. I'm very good at it, which is great because I can pin things quite quickly (e.g. we tend to love six-parters in Doctor Who because they tend to run for two-hours, roughly the same length as a feature film). However... When I misremember, it tends to go all out. I've a great thriller version of Trial of a Time Lord set on an Orwellian Gallifrey that I'm sitting on until I learn the skills to write it properly. It comes from a misremembering prompted by one of the 90s diaries of all things and it's nothing like the actual thing (my young mind interpreting "trial" less as a legal inquiry and more like a series of ordeals).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 7:23:23 GMT
Fresh off a binge of The Haunting of Villa Diodati, Ascension of the Cybermen and The Timeless Children. Marvellous momentum makes for many, merry moments. Also, I was digging around and found this purely by accident. It's absolutely lovely. A poem across the Doctor's lives, written and performed by fans:
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Post by timegirl on Mar 2, 2020 14:42:47 GMT
Even though I fall into the group of people who generally enjoy last nights insanely base breaking finale, my brain still hurts from information overload😯🤔so as a palate cleanser I decided to watch”Delta and the Bannermen” an episode of classic who that from what I have heard is pure enjoyable nonsense 😄 I have only watched part one so far but I have to say it is already a new favorite guilty pleasure episode! 😁🤣 it’s just so daft and ridiculously camp with its intergalactic holiday bus and the cartoonish 1950s Welsh holiday camp I can’t help but love it!😃🤣
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 2, 2020 18:28:58 GMT
Right... will be watching the series finale now. I gather it is slightly controversial. Let's see....
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Post by mrperson on Mar 3, 2020 0:09:37 GMT
The finale...
I opened the thread on the ep / season out of habit, and barely remembered in time to close it.
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Post by polly on Mar 3, 2020 19:13:21 GMT
Image of the Fendahl - This one and Fang Rock both seem rather Hinchcliffe-y and not Williams-y. Did Hinch commission some of the Season 15 stories before leaving?
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Post by mark687 on Mar 3, 2020 21:00:29 GMT
Image of the Fendahl - This one and Fang Rock both seem rather Hinchcliffe-y and not Williams-y. Did Hinch commission some of the Season 15 stories before leaving? Rock definitely. Regards mark687
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 23:37:51 GMT
Image of the Fendahl - This one and Fang Rock both seem rather Hinchcliffe-y and not Williams-y. Did Hinch commission some of the Season 15 stories before leaving? Rock definitely. Regards mark687 Robert Holmes also remained aboard to assist with the transition from Hinchcliffe to Williams as well. Everything from The Invisible Enemy to Image of the Fendahl in production order has his fingerprint as script editor. He was the one who suggested the Rutan to Terrance Dicks for Fang Rock and (along with Williams) bringing K9 aboard as a companion in Enemy. Image of the Fendahl was commissioned by him, but the final rewrites were from new script editor Anthony Read. Williams wanted to do The Key to Time first up, but there was so much preliminary work to get to that point (including edicts from on-high) that Season 15 ended up being essentially a transition period from one era to the next.
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Post by polly on Mar 3, 2020 23:43:00 GMT
Rock definitely. Regards mark687 Robert Holmes also remained aboard to assist with the transition from Hinchcliffe to Williams as well. Everything from The Invisible Enemy to Image of the Fendahl in production order has his fingerprint as script editor. He was the one who suggested the Rutan to Terrance Dicks for Fang Rock and (along with Williams) bringing K9 aboard as a companion in Enemy. Image of the Fendahl was commissioned by him, but the final rewrites were from new script editor Anthony Read. Williams wanted to do The Key to Time first up, but there was so much preliminary work to get to that point (including edicts from on-high) that Season 15 ended up being essentially a transition period from one era to the next. Cool! Thanks guys. I didn't know Key to Time was percolating so soon, that's pretty interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 23:48:12 GMT
Robert Holmes also remained aboard to assist with the transition from Hinchcliffe to Williams as well. Everything from The Invisible Enemy to Image of the Fendahl in production order has his fingerprint as script editor. He was the one who suggested the Rutan to Terrance Dicks for Fang Rock and (along with Williams) bringing K9 aboard as a companion in Enemy. Image of the Fendahl was commissioned by him, but the final rewrites were from new script editor Anthony Read. Williams wanted to do The Key to Time first up, but there was so much preliminary work to get to that point (including edicts from on-high) that Season 15 ended up being essentially a transition period from one era to the next. Cool! Thanks guys. I didn't know Key to Time was percolating so soon, that's pretty interesting. Yeah. This is a really good resource if you'd like to learn more about the production for those seasons. There are some very interesting ideas there that didn't come to pass because of this, that and the other thing (including the Doctor being given a candle in the TARDIS that dimmed as "chaos overtook the universe").
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Post by polly on Mar 4, 2020 2:49:32 GMT
Yeah. This is a really good resource if you'd like to learn more about the production for those seasons. There are some very interesting ideas there that didn't come to pass because of this, that and the other thing (including the Doctor being given a candle in the TARDIS that dimmed as "chaos overtook the universe"). I'll be sure to read that! I'm always fascinated by what might have been. I guess there's a reason I bought all the Lost Stories.
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Post by number13 on Mar 5, 2020 12:37:23 GMT
The Ark in Space (S12 blu-ray)
This might be my most-watched Tom story and with good reason. Brilliant script and performances, Tom is electrifying, the sets are still remarkable and I see mutant alien slime not bubblewrap so that's fine too! And I've had the VHS for a very long time so that helps with the 'view count' too.
On the blu-ray it's as sharp as any studio video production could possibly be - all the bright light and high contrasts of Nerva upscale very well indeed and the new 5:1 soundtrack gives the story that extra 'movie' lift as they always do, to my ears anyway. It has a special place for me as the one which reassured me in the 70s that though 'my' Third Doctor was gone, the Doctor was very much in business with an amazing new persona and off on a whole new adventure! (My only regret is that they didn't include the whole scene, filmed but cut I believe, where Noah transforms as he talks to Vira and the Doctor as described so memorably by Ian Marter in his excellent novelisation.)
'The Ark in Space' is still outstanding after all these years - it sits there on my shelves as novel, VHS, DVD and now blu-ray... waiting to outlive eternity. It's indomitable! (As someone once said )
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Post by polly on Mar 5, 2020 20:12:32 GMT
The Sun Makers - I think this story gets kind of lost in the shuffle, but it's quality stuff.
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Post by number13 on Mar 6, 2020 7:59:57 GMT
The Sontaran Experiment (S12 bluray)
It's a long way from Styre to Strax isn't it? Clones they are not. Of all Sontarans we've met to date, Styre is the definitive example of 'nasty, brutish and short'! This story looks very good on blu-ray but with hindsight, what a pity that they performed 'The Dartmoor Experiment' of making an all-video location story. Innovative and technically impressive considering the bulk of OB equipment back then - but we could have had a second all-film story ripe for HD transfer!
Still, a good short story neatly told and now it's an uneventful trip straight back to Nerva via the transmat... Nothing can possibly go wrong...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 17:11:38 GMT
The Ark in Space (S12 blu-ray)
This might be my most-watched Tom story and with good reason. Brilliant script and performances, Tom is electrifying, the sets are still remarkable and I see mutant alien slime not bubblewrap so that's fine too! And I've had the VHS for a very long time so that helps with the 'view count' too.
On the blu-ray it's as sharp as any studio video production could possibly be - all the bright light and high contrasts of Nerva upscale very well indeed and the new 5:1 soundtrack gives the story that extra 'movie' lift as they always do, to my ears anyway. It has a special place for me as the one which reassured me in the 70s that though 'my' Third Doctor was gone, the Doctor was very much in business with an amazing new persona and off on a whole new adventure! (My only regret is that they didn't include the whole scene, filmed but cut I believe, where Noah transforms as he talks to Vira and the Doctor as described so memorably by Ian Marter in his excellent novelisation.)
'The Ark in Space' is still outstanding after all these years - it sits there on my shelves as novel, VHS, DVD and now blu-ray... waiting to outlive eternity. It's indomitable! (As someone once said ) Ohhh - now then! I would never side with Mary Whitehouse, but this was terrifying. Still is, if you can do as you do and 'unsee' the bubble-wrap. The transformation of Noah is horrible - one arm completely absorbed, and half his face too - and him pleading with his colleagues. I think that scene alone is my most frightening example of Doctor Who - either that, or the Doctor's robot-double in The Android Invasion. Strange isn't it? Despite the scary 'toppling out of the cupboard' cliffhanger, the fully mutated Wirrn were, by comparison, 'just another BEM' to my young eyes. Kids don't know they're born nowadays, etc.
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Post by scriptortempore on Mar 6, 2020 20:34:31 GMT
The mutants, just started episode 3!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 20:48:53 GMT
I really fancied watching The Ark this evening. I love that story. The scene when Dodo asks a Monoid, "Are you up to something?" - and he replies "Er ... no!" - is a wonderful moment.
The DVD, however, refused to work. Perhaps it had a cold!
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