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Post by elkawho on Jun 20, 2020 19:46:32 GMT
Last night around 9 PM I decided to watch the Sea Devils. I actually have 2 copies of the DVD and had never watched either of them. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes, and then fell soundly asleep on the couch. Boy is this story slow. And did anyone really think the Doctor and Master were going to kill each other with fencing foils?
I'm going to try and watch more of it now.
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 20, 2020 19:58:54 GMT
Last night around 9 PM I decided to watch the Sea Devils. I actually have 2 copies of the DVD and had never watched either of them. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes, and then fell soundly asleep on the couch. Boy is this story slow. And did anyone really think the Doctor and Master were going to kill each other with fencing foils? I'm going to try and watch more of it now. I actually quite like the Sea Devils. I think I like it more than the Silurians. But I just love this Master and the Master is really brilliant here. And „Has he put on weight?“ makes me laugh every time. As does the sandwich during fencing. And I love that Bond Villain ending.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2020 20:16:51 GMT
Last night around 9 PM I decided to watch the Sea Devils. I actually have 2 copies of the DVD and had never watched either of them. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes, and then fell soundly asleep on the couch. Boy is this story slow. And did anyone really think the Doctor and Master were going to kill each other with fencing foils? I'm going to try and watch more of it now. It's only by listening to others that one gets to realise how episodic it is. I first saw it in the weekly BBC2 repeats (1 story each of the 7 DR's) in 1992, It worked very well as 1 episode per week. It was also great to re-watch as a whole back when I had fewer episodes to choose from and if I had some idle time to fill on an afternoon. However, as time goes on, I find that as much as this is one of my favourite era's the six part stories are not suited to single sittings and you could skip an episode or two, or hit fast forward, and not lose too much plot.
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Post by elkawho on Jun 20, 2020 21:29:52 GMT
Last night around 9 PM I decided to watch the Sea Devils. I actually have 2 copies of the DVD and had never watched either of them. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes, and then fell soundly asleep on the couch. Boy is this story slow. And did anyone really think the Doctor and Master were going to kill each other with fencing foils? I'm going to try and watch more of it now. It's only by listening to others that one gets to realise how episodic it is. I first saw it in the weekly BBC2 repeats (1 story each of the 7 DR's) in 1992, It worked very well as 1 episode per week. It was also great to re-watch as a whole back when I had fewer episodes to choose from and if I had some idle time to fill on an afternoon. However, as time goes on, I find that as much as this is one of my favourite era's the six part stories are not suited to single sittings and you could skip an episode or two, or hit fast forward, and not lose too much plot. Yeah, that's my problem with it. Way too much filler. And the music and sound are awful. But there is some terrific humor in it, and some fantastic Doctor/Master scenes and character work. I just wish we could condense it into 4 episodes, but I also feel that way about a lot of stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2020 22:29:38 GMT
It's only by listening to others that one gets to realise how episodic it is. I first saw it in the weekly BBC2 repeats (1 story each of the 7 DR's) in 1992, It worked very well as 1 episode per week. It was also great to re-watch as a whole back when I had fewer episodes to choose from and if I had some idle time to fill on an afternoon. However, as time goes on, I find that as much as this is one of my favourite era's the six part stories are not suited to single sittings and you could skip an episode or two, or hit fast forward, and not lose too much plot. Yeah, that's my problem with it. Way too much filler. And the music and sound are awful. But there is some terrific humor in it, and some fantastic Doctor/Master scenes and character work. I just wish we could condense it into 4 episodes, but I also feel that way about a lot of stories. Inferno was always cited as the one long story that held the suspense throughout its run and used the additional airtime effectively. I think it's recognised that the 6 part stories were a means of making the money go a bit further, though The Daemons made use of its additional episode. Good job they did not make it another 6 part tale though, otherwise it may not have been quite the 'classic'. The music suite of The Sea Devils is rather good in its more 'refined' (i.e. listenable) version as released on record though (it was my favourite track from 'The Music' LP from 1983):
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Post by theotherjosh on Jun 21, 2020 0:04:36 GMT
The Creature from the Pit
An average story elevated by the charisma of the leads. K-9 sounds so weird when John Leeson is not voicing him. I misheard one of Tom Baker's lines early on. He says "If I hadn't produced that ball of string to find a way out of the labyrinth, they were going to unravel my scarf, the wretches". I thought "wretches" was "rednecks" and it seemed like such an odd thing for him to say. Turns out he didn't say it anyway.
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Post by melkur on Jun 21, 2020 0:36:47 GMT
"I've just got used to your being around..."
On this day fifty years ago, 'Inferno' and series 7 drew to a close. Well, it's been fun!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2020 0:52:21 GMT
"I've just got used to your being around..." On this day fifty years ago, 'Inferno' and series 7 drew to a close. Well, it's been fun! 50 Years? That's half a century!! Episodes 5 & 6. Still the most harrowing and intense 50 minutes of Doctor Who on TV. The 4 episode build up really pays off and episode 7 seems a wind down by comparison.
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Post by timegirl on Jun 21, 2020 16:08:05 GMT
Enlightenment Five’s era is not one I watch too often but I think Enlightenment is one of my favorite tv episodes of his next to Kinda and Snakedance 😃 The visuals of the literal ships in space are gorgeous and remind me a lot of the Terry Gilliam movies ‘Time Bandits’ and ‘Adventures of Baron Munchausin’! They do such interesting things with exploring the strange otherness of the Eternals in this! The costumes are wonderful as well! I love the design of the space suits and I adore Tegan’s ball gown in this 😊 I think I figured out what it is with me and 5, I think I find his companions more interesting to watch than he himself a lot of the time 🤔 I enjoy 5 more on audio because his gravely voice gives more world weariness. Terlough and Tegan are both really good here😊 Tegan with trying to fend of the advances of a particularly keen (and rather creepy) eternal😨 Turlough was good going between the Black and white guardians 😈😇 This story had a very appealing magical almost otherworldly feeling to it!😊
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Post by melkur on Jun 24, 2020 13:05:56 GMT
Co-incidentally, I've also been watching 'Enlightenment' over the past few days (finishing it last night) - I don't know if it's a favourite of mine, but, you know, watching it across four evenings (ok five, as I fell asleep during part 3, so had to re-watch it on Monday!), I did have a good time with it!
As I was supposed to be going away to Canada today (cancelled for obvious reasons), in a few minutes I'm going to be watching the first half or so of 'The Faceless Ones' before going out to help someone with some hay bailing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 1:16:41 GMT
Yeah, that's my problem with it. Way too much filler. And the music and sound are awful. But there is some terrific humor in it, and some fantastic Doctor/Master scenes and character work. I just wish we could condense it into 4 episodes, but I also feel that way about a lot of stories. Inferno was always cited as the one long story that held the suspense throughout its run and used the additional airtime effectively. I think it's recognised that the 6 part stories were a means of making the money go a bit further, though The Daemons made use of its additional episode. Good job they did not make it another 6 part tale though, otherwise it may not have been quite the 'classic'. The music suite of The Sea Devils is rather good in its more 'refined' (i.e. listenable) version as released on record though (it was my favourite track from 'The Music' LP from 1983): Don Houghton's stories are really interesting to examine in terms of their structure. I think the reason why Inferno works as well as it does is because it's a four-part story in that parallel world with a three-part framing device wrapped around it. In theory, you could excise the portions with our Earth's version of the Inferno Project, but everything that happens in tandem (the alternate Earth's inherent, for lack of a better word, "wrongness") is informed by the dynamics from our universe. The people on our Earth shape our perspective of the people of that doomed alternative. The Brigade Leader, for instance, is unnerving on his own, but downright frightening when you put a mirror between him and the Brigadier. A lot of memorable six-parters (or even just long-form stories, period) have that gear change in their focus somewhere inside their framework. The four/six episode structure also fits extremely well with the three-act structure that Hollywood has popularised over time. The turning points in the narrative, the ends of those acts (or the intervals of those acts), can be translated fairly easily across to cliffhangers.
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Post by melkur on Jun 26, 2020 14:57:21 GMT
Last night "The King's Demons", this afternoon 'The Five Doctors' (I'm currently about twenty minutes in)
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 27, 2020 10:07:07 GMT
The “Break from the Daleks?” thread inspired me to watch Resolution, as I think it’s quite different and is an example of why I’m never bored of the Daleks.
It’s been great to watch it again, the first time since it was initially broadcast. Action packed, well paced and a good balance of the domestic and the alien. I love the sewer set and in reality, I believe that’s what is underneath Sheffield’s very own TARDIS next to the town hall. There’s a porthole in that which leads to Sheffield’s massive sewers.
My favourite moment is something I didn’t remember before and it’s the Doctor telling Aaron off for not attending Grace’s funeral. Jodie performs it so child like, breaking up each sentence and it ends up being all the more scathing and honest, as kids can be. “Hi Ryan’s Dad. You weren’t at Grace’s funeral. Ryan waited for you. You let him down.”
Graham’s goodbye to Ryan as he heads off to the cafe is touching too, that slight lip tremble. I do like Ryan & Yaz, but a series of Jodie Whittaker & Bradley Walsh will be one of the Who greats we never got.
I love the use of the Dalek, embracing how dangerous the mutant is without the casing. The design itself is an odd one, though. I love the junkyard aspect to it, but it’s a little too clean and too design focused. And it doesn’t work as a Dalek redesign, but it shouldn’t either; it should be more “junkyard chic”, as the Doctor put it. I think the remote controlled aspect gives it a different dynamic and movement that we’ve never got before, as great as the Dalek operators are.
Couple of criticisms; the big font looks tacky and the UNIT & WiFi scenes are awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 11:12:05 GMT
The “Break from the Daleks?” thread inspired me to watch Resolution, as I think it’s quite different and is an example of why I’m never bored of the Daleks. It’s been great to watch it again, the first time since it was initially broadcast. Action packed, well paced and a good balance of the domestic and the alien. I love the sewer set and in reality, I believe that’s what is underneath Sheffield’s very own TARDIS next to the town hall. There’s a porthole in that which leads to Sheffield’s massive sewers. My favourite moment is something I didn’t remember before and it’s the Doctor telling Aaron off for not attending Grace’s funeral. Jodie performs it so child like, breaking up each sentence and it ends up being all the more scathing and honest, as kids can be. “Hi Ryan’s Dad. You weren’t at Grace’s funeral. Ryan waited for you. You let him down.”
Graham’s goodbye to Ryan as he heads off to the cafe is touching too, that slight lip tremble. I do like Ryan & Yaz, but a series of Jodie Whittaker & Bradley Walsh will be one of the Who greats we never got. I love the use of the Dalek, embracing how dangerous the mutant is without the casing. The design itself is an odd one, though. I love the junkyard aspect to it, but it’s a little too clean and too design focused. And it doesn’t work as a Dalek redesign, but it shouldn’t either; it should be more “junkyard chic”, as the Doctor put it. I think the remote controlled aspect gives it a different dynamic and movement that we’ve never got before, as great as the Dalek operators are. Couple of criticisms; the big font looks tacky and the UNIT & WiFi scenes are awful. In one of the interviews she did way back when, Verity Lambert described the First Doctor as being a sort of "adult child", something I've noticed pops up quite frequently in Thirteen's characterisation. She has those moments that one can get with very small children. When they say something profound in the simplest of terms, like: "No one is really a grown-up. They just act old because they have to," and then go straight back to whatever it was they were doing before. The Doctors have always been good at that, but Whitaker's take reminds me very strongly of that phenomenon, in particular. That philosophical candour.
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Post by timegirl on Jun 27, 2020 14:34:33 GMT
Creature from the Pit I was curious about this one due to it’s umm....reputation shall we say🤔😳Lets just put this way it doesn’t disappoint in that respect 😉What were they thinking when they designed the creature in this story?! it’s kind of hilarious!🤣 I kind of love how naughty Tom was with it, those little looks he gives at the camera 😉😁 Definitely a so bad it’s good episode!
Side note: I genuinely love Romana’s dress in this, she had some of the best outfits!😊
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 15:26:17 GMT
Creature from the Pit I was curious about this one due to it’s umm....reputation shall we say🤔😳Lets just put this way it doesn’t disappoint in that respect 😉What were they thinking when they designed the creature in this story?! it’s kind of hilarious!🤣 I kind of love how naughty Tom was with it, those little looks he gives at the camera 😉😁 Definitely a so bad it’s good episode! Side note: I genuinely love Romana’s dress in this, she had some of the best outfits!😊 Do you have the Blu-Ray S18 set with 'The Tom Baker Years' VHS retrospective included? I remember that he said on it (back in around 1992) after viewing the scene again, that he was aware of the innuendo and sniggering from the crew when he recorded that scene, but said that he had no time for their base amusements and went ahead regardless. The guy was a 'pro' and did not think the young viewers would see it that way, so he was not amused. Apparently. I think Red Dwarf must have been influenced by it in the series 4 episode ' Camilla' where Kryten the service droid, meets and falls in love with a female droid who turns out to be a 'Gelf' ( Genetically Engineered Lifeform) in morph disguise , which was remarkably similar to the 'creature', but with a large eyeball at the head. They enjoy a fine, but doomed romance, when he learns and accepts her true self, in homage to 'Casablanca'. Stirring stuff.
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Post by melkur on Jun 27, 2020 16:41:11 GMT
At the moment I'm watching the first half of 'Warriors Of The Deep', which is what normal people do on their first 'proper' holiday day-off from work since mid-March, right? Oh.
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Post by Whovitt on Jun 27, 2020 23:44:39 GMT
At the moment I'm watching the first half of 'Warriors Of The Deep', which is what normal people do on their first 'proper' holiday day-off from work since mid-March, right? Oh. Yes, only I watch the whole thing at once because it's too good to break up
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Post by melkur on Jun 27, 2020 23:55:43 GMT
At the moment I'm watching the first half of 'Warriors Of The Deep', which is what normal people do on their first 'proper' holiday day-off from work since mid-March, right? Oh. Yes, only I watch the whole thing at once because it's too good to break up I was thinking about it, but thought that I might as well leave the second half for tomorrow evening (as I have it off from work as well). Since lockdown I've mainly been doing an episode an evening before I jump into bed but, as I've got a couple of audio episodes to listen to before I do tonight, I 'might as well' watch part 1 after my walk today. Fifty minutes later...
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 28, 2020 0:57:15 GMT
The “Break from the Daleks?” thread inspired me to watch Resolution, as I think it’s quite different and is an example of why I’m never bored of the Daleks. It’s been great to watch it again, the first time since it was initially broadcast. Action packed, well paced and a good balance of the domestic and the alien. I love the sewer set and in reality, I believe that’s what is underneath Sheffield’s very own TARDIS next to the town hall. There’s a porthole in that which leads to Sheffield’s massive sewers. My favourite moment is something I didn’t remember before and it’s the Doctor telling Aaron off for not attending Grace’s funeral. Jodie performs it so child like, breaking up each sentence and it ends up being all the more scathing and honest, as kids can be. “Hi Ryan’s Dad. You weren’t at Grace’s funeral. Ryan waited for you. You let him down.” Graham’s goodbye to Ryan as he heads off to the cafe is touching too, that slight lip tremble. I do like Ryan & Yaz, but a series of Jodie Whittaker & Bradley Walsh will be one of the Who greats we never got. I love the use of the Dalek, embracing how dangerous the mutant is without the casing. The design itself is an odd one, though. I love the junkyard aspect to it, but it’s a little too clean and too design focused. And it doesn’t work as a Dalek redesign, but it shouldn’t either; it should be more “junkyard chic”, as the Doctor put it. I think the remote controlled aspect gives it a different dynamic and movement that we’ve never got before, as great as the Dalek operators are. Couple of criticisms; the big font looks tacky and the UNIT & WiFi scenes are awful. I love Resolution. And that scene where The Doctor tells off Aaron is superb.Actually, Jodie is superb in the role throughout. It is brilliant, which is probably why the wifi gag falls flat. It’s ok on its own but it feels a little “off” compared to the rest of the episode. It’s levity - and much-needed by this point - but it feels a little too obvious. Something that got me on the second viewing was the realisation that Graham and Grace’s wallpaper is the same pattern that the roundels make in the TARDIS.
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