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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 2:01:51 GMT
I really hope he decides to stay involved with Doctor Who in some shape or form - he's easily my favorite writer in NuWho and my favorite showrunner, which I know is a controversial opinion. Maybe returning to write a story every series is a bit too much to ask for, but at least the odd episode or two every couple of seasons would be great. The term "controversial" is always a matter of opinion really. In some sectors War is still very controversial, in others, he's been widely accepted with little thought. I'm pleased Moffat is leaving the series as a showrunner, but I wouldn't be adverse to him returning for one story here and there every couple of years. Oversaturation is a large factor of what killed his appeal to me.
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Post by shutupbanks on Mar 19, 2016 6:38:36 GMT
I've found that after a couple of years of running a show, Mr Moffat tends to run out of steam creatively (look at the last series of Coupling and the last two years of Press Gang for examples). I found Series 8 to have some great moments and a couple of really good episodes but overall it was saved only by great performances by Mr Capaldi and Ms Coleman. I wasn't looking forward to Series 9 but was pleasantly surprised to have my socks knocked off almost every week. YMMV, obviously, but I really hope he stays on board to write a few stories as he does produce excellent work more often than so many other writers.
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Post by shutupbanks on Mar 19, 2016 6:42:47 GMT
Sometimes a characters story is finished. Then again, Moffat may not be a fan of Capt Jack or Barrowman. He prefers to use his own characters, again and again! Mt Moffat may or may not be a fan, but he did create Captain Jack, didn't he?
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Post by seeley on Mar 19, 2016 7:09:39 GMT
Sometimes a characters story is finished. Then again, Moffat may not be a fan of Capt Jack or Barrowman. He prefers to use his own characters, again and again! Mt Moffat may or may not be a fan, but he did create Captain Jack, didn't he? Not to mention that Jack was slated to appear in A Good Man Goes to War, before Miracle Day created a conflict of schedules.
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Post by omega on Mar 19, 2016 7:37:30 GMT
Sometimes a characters story is finished. Then again, Moffat may not be a fan of Capt Jack or Barrowman. He prefers to use his own characters, again and again! Mt Moffat may or may not be a fan, but he did create Captain Jack, didn't he? He did, and that's all he's written for Jack. He didn't contribute anything to Torchwood and Jack only returned for RTD episodes (Utopia-Last of the Time Lords, Stolen Earth-Journey's End, End of Time). Jack was going to be in A Good Man Goes to War, but John Barrowman was in the US filming Miracle Day at the time. The whole years of missing memories also hasn't been touched upon at all since The Empty Child, let alone explored or dealt with. Another aspect of Jack that was dropped the episode after it was introduced was how his immortality made him a fixed point in time, and thus the TARDIS and the Doctor developed some kind of aversion to him (that's why the TARDIS landed at the end of the universe in Utopia, Jack was clinging to the outside). The TARDIS showed no such tendencies in the series four finale, although the universe was on the verge of collapse and the Medusa Cascade something of a spatial anomaly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 7:42:14 GMT
Sometimes a characters story is finished. Then again, Moffat may not be a fan of Capt Jack or Barrowman. He prefers to use his own characters, again and again! Mt Moffat may or may not be a fan, but he did create Captain Jack, didn't he? Well, he wrote his introductory story, but wasn't the character made to order, based on RTD's requirements.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 13:05:32 GMT
Mt Moffat may or may not be a fan, but he did create Captain Jack, didn't he? Not to mention that Jack was slated to appear in A Good Man Goes to War, before Miracle Day created a conflict of schedules. Oh, hell. I'd have taken his appearance in "A Good Man Goes to War" over Miracle Day any day of the week. Mt Moffat may or may not be a fan, but he did create Captain Jack, didn't he? He did, and that's all he's written for Jack. He didn't contribute anything to Torchwood and Jack only returned for RTD episodes (Utopia-Last of the Time Lords, Stolen Earth-Journey's End, End of Time). Jack was going to be in A Good Man Goes to War, but John Barrowman was in the US filming Miracle Day at the time. The whole years of missing memories also hasn't been touched upon at all since The Empty Child, let alone explored or dealt with. Another aspect of Jack that was dropped the episode after it was introduced was how his immortality made him a fixed point in time, and thus the TARDIS and the Doctor developed some kind of aversion to him (that's why the TARDIS landed at the end of the universe in Utopia, Jack was clinging to the outside). The TARDIS showed no such tendencies in the series four finale, although the universe was on the verge of collapse and the Medusa Cascade something of a spatial anomaly. Best to think of Moffat as part of the George Lucas or Gene Roddenberry sect of creators. They make the toys, but if you don't hand them over to someone else, they'll break them whether they mean to or not.
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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 20, 2016 13:30:05 GMT
No more Moffat episodes post series 10, i think the focus should be on newer blood & finding that next special Doctor Who writer.
In fact i think Big Finish has the best Doctor Who writer's currently.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 20, 2016 18:59:40 GMT
In fact i think Big Finish has the best Doctor Who writer's currently. Big Finish's writers are good for audio but I think they'd struggle with budget for TV. Let's not forget that audio doesn't require CGI, special effects or locations.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 20, 2016 21:01:32 GMT
In fact i think Big Finish has the best Doctor Who writer's currently. Big Finish's writers are good for audio but I think they'd struggle with budget for TV. Let's not forget that audio doesn't require CGI, special effects or locations. I'm sure they've watched the show and are aware of how much cgi is used. The least the showrunner can do is get suggestions from them.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 20, 2016 22:00:35 GMT
Big Finish's writers are good for audio but I think they'd struggle with budget for TV. Let's not forget that audio doesn't require CGI, special effects or locations. I'm sure they've watched the show and are aware of how much cgi is used. The least the showrunner can do is get suggestions from them. It wouldn't be what they're used to though. It might restrict them having to write with TV in mind as opposed to limitless imagination with audio.
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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 20, 2016 22:13:51 GMT
You don't need cgi or a big budget to make a scary Doctor Who episode just a great idea & execution giving the dramatic beats of a intriguing opening gripping middle & nerve shedding tension filled ending.
I wrote a couple of Doctor Who stories but would be far to dark for the tv series nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 22:15:26 GMT
Re: some of the above. I don't believe Moffat did create Jack Harkness. He wrote his first episode but RTD conceived and cast him, commissioning Moffat to write him in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 22:37:40 GMT
I'd be happy, but I'd imagine he'll be distancing himself from Who for some time after his tenure.
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Post by constonks on Mar 26, 2016 3:09:15 GMT
He should probably (and will probably) take a couple years away from Doctor Who, but after that? Of course he should come back, be it on TV or elsewhere. Even most folks who hated his time as showrunner like at least one of his RTD-era episodes.
Of course, I'd also like to see what RTD would do given the chance at a one-off story in an era not his own.
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Post by omega on Mar 26, 2016 3:19:45 GMT
You don't need cgi or a big budget to make a scary Doctor Who episode just a great idea & execution giving the dramatic beats of a intriguing opening gripping middle & nerve shedding tension filled ending. I wrote a couple of Doctor Who stories but would be far to dark for the tv series nowadays. Exactly. Midnight is essentially eight or so characters in a single set for 40 minutes with no special effects and it's still one of the creepiest Doctor Who stories ever. The entity menacing the characters is never identified and all the Doctor can do just to remain himself is run. Thank goodness it's confined to that one planet. At least that we know of...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 10:28:54 GMT
You don't need cgi or a big budget to make a scary Doctor Who episode just a great idea & execution giving the dramatic beats of a intriguing opening gripping middle & nerve shedding tension filled ending. I wrote a couple of Doctor Who stories but would be far to dark for the tv series nowadays. Exactly. Midnight is essentially eight or so characters in a single set for 40 minutes with no special effects and it's still one of the creepiest Doctor Who stories ever. The entity menacing the characters is never identified and all the Doctor can do just to remain himself is run. Thank goodness it's confined to that one planet. At least that we know of... Moving outside of Who for a moment, Sapphire and Steel was able to do it with dimly lit sets, whispering and a bit of spectral legerdemain. Steel's interrogation of that thing has got to be one of the best moments in that series. Where it creeps inside Sapphire's head and makes her blind, threatening to snap out her mind in an instant should he try to make a move against it. There's no happy ending there. No last minute victory. The horror of it all is that our heroes fail. Completely. Totally. Irrevocably. The darkness wins.
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