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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 0:58:22 GMT
There's something particularly fascinating about that Action in Exile period for the Second Doctor. Marooned on Earth, but still in his second incarnation, living in a West End hotel where he acts as a freelance, almost Carl Sagan-esque consultant. There's one story, I rather like, that puts the shoe on the other foot. The Doctor ends up deciphering a distress call from a trapped alien species, also stranded on Earth. He repairs their equipment, but the occupants of the ship fear a global panic if word got out that extraterrestrial beings existed. They have a moral duty to keep their existence a secret. Consequently, the Doctor ends up kidnapped and spirited away into space as a prisoner. It's a nice twist on An Unearthly Child and I think it comes almost exactly before the above spoiler. What I wouldn't give for those often wonderful old strips to be collected in some form of omnibus graphic novel. As it is, I only have a few of these eccentric stories. I can't understand why it hasn't been done. Rights? Fear that it wouldn't sell? Problems with reprinting those lovely landscape strips, spread over two pages? It's a crying shame! It really is. Rights would definitely be my guess for those early strips. They did end up getting a re-release in the 1990s. Apparently John Freeman, one of the editors for Doctor Who Magazine, negotiated the rights to have them published through a Marvel UK imprint. Panini has them now, so maybe one day they'll see the light of day? In an ideal world, I'd have the shiny full-colour comics featuring and the monochrome strips acting as backup. That way we get a lovely parcel of both. In the front, a reprint of the Countdown comics featuring Skarosian dinosaurs charging Daleks, a fungal-based antagonist chosen from a young competition winner, and a surprise appearance from H.G. Wells's Time Traveller in an unlikely space. In the back, TV Comic stories of city-chewing Klepton flora, a whole story told in reverse, and the Quarks' singleminded mission to destroy the Doctor. There's lots to enjoy there.
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Post by timegirl on Apr 26, 2021 2:30:22 GMT
The best DW stories always focus on the emotions of the characters (especially The Doctor) first, before any other plot elements.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Apr 26, 2021 8:06:51 GMT
The best DW stories always focus on the emotions of the characters (especially The Doctor) first, before any other plot elements. I actually agree with this. *Cough* World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls *cough*.
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Post by timegirl on Apr 26, 2021 11:42:01 GMT
The best DW stories always focus on the emotions of the characters (especially The Doctor) first, before any other plot elements. I actually agree with this. *Cough* World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls *cough*. Oh definitely! That always has me cry! Really I could say that about the entire Capaldi era though. Emotions always came first, just look at the very misunderstood Hell Bent.
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Post by timegirl on Apr 26, 2021 15:08:30 GMT
Post-covid, there should be a new DW stage show with a rotating cast of actual past and present Doctors and Companions (both classic and New Who). The script could be slightly altered and personalized depending on which TARDIS team was featured at that performance allowing for different bits and jokes and things. The plot would probably be something epic and silly involving all the past villains and monsters. Oh and there would be at least one musical number and audience participation bits.
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Post by mark687 on Apr 26, 2021 15:12:05 GMT
Post-covid, there should be a new DW stage show with a rotating cast of actual past and present Doctors and Companions (both classic and New Who). The script could be slightly altered and personalized depending on which TARDIS team was featured at that performance allowing for different bits and jokes and things. The plot would probably be something epic and silly involving all the past villains and monsters. Oh and there would be at least one musical number and audience participation bits. The Ultimate Adventure Returns !!! LOL Regards mark687
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Post by timegirl on Apr 26, 2021 15:14:59 GMT
Post-covid, there should be a new DW stage show with a rotating cast of actual past and present Doctors and Companions (both classic and New Who). The script could be slightly altered and personalized depending on which TARDIS team was featured at that performance allowing for different bits and jokes and things. The plot would probably be something epic and silly involving all the past villains and monsters. Oh and there would be at least one musical number and audience participation bits. The Ultimate Adventure Returns !!! LOL Regards mark687 Yes! You know something like that would probably be extremely popular!đMaybe they could have something like that as part of the the DW 60th anniversary celebration!
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Post by mark687 on Apr 26, 2021 15:20:31 GMT
I wouldn't mind seeing a feature or attending a panel of Hollywood and DW Creatives discussing the Pros and Cons of doing Who as a feature film for the mainstream audience.
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Post by timegirl on Apr 26, 2021 15:42:00 GMT
If BF ever manages to get Jenna Coleman they definitely need to do a boxset about how Missy decided to play matchmaker for Clara and the Doctor. This would be a fascinating story! How did Missy decide to pair the two together? Did she first encounter Clara before or after she decided to find someone for the Doctor? I feel like Missy must have definitely spied on or even interacted with Clara incognito throughout her childhood and young adult years perhaps even influencing her decision making in little ways. Sidenote: Why do I feel like Missy incognito might have at one point dated Claraâs father after her motherâs death with the intention of becoming Claraâs wicked step mother? It would be good to see more of Claraâs life growing up because I think people might find her more relatable and sympathetic if we actually saw what made her the way she is. Perhaps find out what influenced her to become a teacher.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 8:12:59 GMT
Post-covid, there should be a new DW stage show with a rotating cast of actual past and present Doctors and Companions (both classic and New Who). The script could be slightly altered and personalized depending on which TARDIS team was featured at that performance allowing for different bits and jokes and things. The plot would probably be something epic and silly involving all the past villains and monsters. Oh and there would be at least one musical number and audience participation bits. Oh, wow, there's so much that could be done with that. We've a fair few actors from Who that have also done theatre, up to and including Jodie Whittaker. I could see them getting in whoever was available to play the main part and then filling out the remainder of the roles with familiar faces from the show's history. For instance, one night, you'd get Peter Capaldi facing " Truth or annihilation!" at the Riddles of the Gemini, as played by Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy. Then, another, Jodie Whittaker facing similar puzzles at the impassive stony visages played by Colin Baker and Paul McGann. All mixed up together, so to get the same combination twice in a row becomes pretty novel in its own right.
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Post by timegirl on Apr 27, 2021 13:13:20 GMT
Post-covid, there should be a new DW stage show with a rotating cast of actual past and present Doctors and Companions (both classic and New Who). The script could be slightly altered and personalized depending on which TARDIS team was featured at that performance allowing for different bits and jokes and things. The plot would probably be something epic and silly involving all the past villains and monsters. Oh and there would be at least one musical number and audience participation bits. Oh, wow, there's so much that could be done with that. We've a fair few actors from Who that have also done theatre, up to and including Jodie Whittaker. I could see them getting in whoever was available to play the main part and then filling out the remainder of the roles with familiar faces from the show's history. For instance, one night, you'd get Peter Capaldi facing " Truth or annihilation!" at the Riddles of the Gemini, as played by Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy. Then, another, Jodie Whittaker facing similar puzzles at the impassive stony visages played by Colin Baker and Paul McGann. All mixed up together, so to get the same combination twice in a row becomes pretty novel in its own right. This needs to be real! đ
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 13:23:17 GMT
Oh, wow, there's so much that could be done with that. We've a fair few actors from Who that have also done theatre, up to and including Jodie Whittaker. I could see them getting in whoever was available to play the main part and then filling out the remainder of the roles with familiar faces from the show's history. For instance, one night, you'd get Peter Capaldi facing " Truth or annihilation!" at the Riddles of the Gemini, as played by Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy. Then, another, Jodie Whittaker facing similar puzzles at the impassive stony visages played by Colin Baker and Paul McGann. All mixed up together, so to get the same combination twice in a row becomes pretty novel in its own right. This needs to be real! đ I think I'll earmark that idea like I did with the Frobisher/Panda story and save it for later. I'm lacking time at the moment, but later, who knows, eh?
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Post by grinch on Apr 27, 2021 13:25:24 GMT
This needs to be real! đ I think I'll earmark that idea like I did with the Frobisher/Panda story and save it for later. I'm lacking time at the moment, but later, who knows, eh? To be honest, Iâd be all over a Panda and Frobisher story. Either a regular adventure with the pair or just how they met would be icing on the proverbial cake. đ
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Post by timegirl on Apr 27, 2021 13:36:16 GMT
I think I'll earmark that idea like I did with the Frobisher/Panda story and save it for later. I'm lacking time at the moment, but later, who knows, eh? To be honest, Iâd be all over a Panda and Frobisher story. Either a regular adventure with the pair or just how they met would be icing on the proverbial cake. đ Yes!đ
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Post by timegirl on Apr 27, 2021 14:05:43 GMT
I know a lot of people find Clara unrealistic, annoying and hard to relate to but I actually really relate to her. I know what itâs like to live a split life traveling on sometimes admittedly daredevil adventures and working with kids, because that was actually my exact life style pre-covid. Well the adventures did not involve space and time travel and my job working with kids was not as a teacher exactly, but still it was very similar. Also I relate to her as growing up we both were only children, head in a book, daydreaming about travel and adventure. I relate to her wanting to see wonders and needing to be more than you are. I also relate a lot to her height angst as we are both very short and small.
I know she isnât everyoneâs cup of tea but I donât find her hard to relate to at all because I know where she is coming from.
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Post by mrperson on Apr 30, 2021 18:14:32 GMT
I'm not sure how popular or unpopular this is but..... I always hated the entire concept of Clara shards. I'd have much rather have there be one Clara. First we'd meet "souffle" girl. Then the season would proceed. This would leave open various possible endings, ie:
- Try as he might to find a way to cheat and avert that future, Clara unavoidably ends up as soufle girl as her exit.
- He actually succeeds in another cheating-without-quite-cheating a la Season 6, and "souffle girl" is not what she appears. Instead she's a fancy hologram, a dalek or mock-up dalek programmed to look, something like that, which future him went back and planted prior to earlier-him's arrival in Asylum. After all, the Daleks weren't watching their prisoners.
But I hated the whole idea of "jumping into his timestream" and the idea that all these times he did something really clever, he was actually only saved because he's unknowingly been hounded by mini-claras all his existence.
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Post by timegirl on Apr 30, 2021 18:36:32 GMT
I'm not sure how popular or unpopular this is but.....   I always hated the entire concept of Clara shards. I'd have much rather have there be one Clara. First we'd meet "souffle" girl. Then the season would proceed. This would leave open various possible endings, ie:
- Try as he might to find a way to cheat and avert that future, Clara unavoidably ends up as soufle girl as her exit.
- He actually succeeds in another cheating-without-quite-cheating a la Season 6, and "souffle girl" is not what she appears. Instead she's a fancy hologram, a dalek or mock-up dalek programmed to look, something like that, which future him went back and planted prior to earlier-him's arrival in Asylum. After all, the Daleks weren't watching their prisoners.
But I hated the whole idea of "jumping into his timestream" and the idea that all these times he did something really clever, he was actually only saved because he's unknowingly been hounded by mini-claras all his existence.
I think itâs more Clara is preserving the Doctorâs timeline from interference the greater intelligence than taking away the Doctorâs achievements. I see where you are coming from but I think the Clara echoes work with her arch of becoming the human equivalent of the Doctor and his soulmate. It makes sense for her to have multiple incarnations in this sense. I also think this shows how far Clara will go for the Doctor , something that the Doctor will echo in Heaven Sent/Hell Bent in how far he is willing to go to save her.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Apr 30, 2021 19:10:23 GMT
I'm not sure how popular or unpopular this is but..... I always hated the entire concept of Clara shards. I'd have much rather have there be one Clara. First we'd meet "souffle" girl. Then the season would proceed. This would leave open various possible endings, ie:
- Try as he might to find a way to cheat and avert that future, Clara unavoidably ends up as soufle girl as her exit.
- He actually succeeds in another cheating-without-quite-cheating a la Season 6, and "souffle girl" is not what she appears. Instead she's a fancy hologram, a dalek or mock-up dalek programmed to look, something like that, which future him went back and planted prior to earlier-him's arrival in Asylum. After all, the Daleks weren't watching their prisoners.
But I hated the whole idea of "jumping into his timestream" and the idea that all these times he did something really clever, he was actually only saved because he's unknowingly been hounded by mini-claras all his existence.
Agree 100%, people complain about the timeless child retconning things but what about Clara saving the Doctor's bacon or even making him choose a specific TARDIS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:18:56 GMT
I'm not sure how popular or unpopular this is but..... I always hated the entire concept of Clara shards. I'd have much rather have there be one Clara. First we'd meet "souffle" girl. Then the season would proceed. This would leave open various possible endings, ie:
- Try as he might to find a way to cheat and avert that future, Clara unavoidably ends up as soufle girl as her exit.
- He actually succeeds in another cheating-without-quite-cheating a la Season 6, and "souffle girl" is not what she appears. Instead she's a fancy hologram, a dalek or mock-up dalek programmed to look, something like that, which future him went back and planted prior to earlier-him's arrival in Asylum. After all, the Daleks weren't watching their prisoners.
But I hated the whole idea of "jumping into his timestream" and the idea that all these times he did something really clever, he was actually only saved because he's unknowingly been hounded by mini-claras all his existence. I think itâs more Clara is preserving the Doctorâs timeline from interference the greater intelligence than taking away the Doctorâs achievements. I see where you are coming from but I think the Clara echoes work with her arch of becoming the human equivalent of the Doctor and his soulmate. It makes sense for her to have multiple incarnations in this sense. I also think this shows how far Clara will go for the Doctor , something that the Doctor will echo in Heaven Sent/Hell Bent in how far he is willing to go to save her. Actually, on the subject of echoes... There was a little detail of The Day of the Doctor which caught my eye on first viewing. The way that Matt Smith plays it and the situation evolves, it's almost as if the Eleventh Doctor knew what was coming. He was expecting it. On Trenzalore, the Great Intelligence steps into the timestream and becomes splintered through history, right? Clara does the same and ends up in a similar circumstance. It's not quite clear what happens to the Eleventh Doctor when he steps through in The Name of the Doctor, but we can assume something quite similar. With one distinct difference. We've seen in the past -- Invasion of the Dinosaurs, comes to mind -- that the Doctor can move against distortions in Time in a way that other species can't. Product of being a Time Lord. Why do he and his Clara, the Clara that we're familiar with, end up finding the War Doctor? Because all those little moments of interference, leading from the First Doctor to the Twelfth, navigated them "downstream" towards the nexus point of all that change. With the millennia-old program on the sonic screwdriver, the massive meeting of TARDISes around Gallifrey, everything was nudged just far enough from the established course of history to create the War Doctor. So, "yesterday" before Trenzalore, he didn't exist. "Tomorrow" after, he did. But to the Doctor, he's always been there. A product of the Eleventh Doctor launching himself into his own open grave and coming back out again with Clara.
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Post by timegirl on May 2, 2021 17:03:10 GMT
I know everyone always brings up Olivia Coleman for the Doctor, but after watching âThe Mitchells vs. the Machinesâ last night, I realized she can play evil really well! I think she could make a really compelling Master! She would bring a different sort of energy to it by coming across as this sweet motherly figure at first but then have a much darker side underneath of it.
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