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Post by grinch on Jul 8, 2021 20:13:20 GMT
I seem to recall in The Eight Doctor book that they revisited the Death Zone which lead to a group of Sontarans facing off against the Raston Warrior Robot. Which promptly dispatched against them in an appropriately gruesome fashion. I reckon one could do a pretty convincing Audio version of the Cybermen/Unit massacre, keeping most of the existing audio soundtrack, with it's music, 'aargghhs' and barfing sound effects, but with the occasional 'Holy Moses!' and rife fire cribbed from The Three Doctors for good measure.... All in good taste of course. I’ll only allow it if a few Wilhelm Screams are thrown in there as well.
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 9, 2021 1:31:11 GMT
Speaking of anniversary specials, I personally found The Five Doctors a much better and most importantly more enjoyable anniversary special than the 50th. I think it set the benchmark for multi Doctor stories Like a low budget lord of the rings like journey
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 9, 2021 1:38:49 GMT
If the 60th anniversary special doesn’t have Peter Capaldi in it, I don’t want it. Depends if the show makes it to the 60th I just hope they don’t snub McGann for the 60th like they did with the 50th
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Post by timegirl on Jul 9, 2021 1:42:55 GMT
If the 60th anniversary special doesn’t have Peter Capaldi in it, I don’t want it. Depends if the show makes it to the 60th I just hope they don’t snub McGann for the 60th like they did with the 50th I’m sure it will, I have a feeling DW will still be running 50 to 100 years from now!🤞🙂 McGann and plus 9,10,11,12, 13 would be good 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 4:46:02 GMT
Speaking of anniversary specials, I personally found The Five Doctors a much better and most importantly more enjoyable anniversary special than the 50th. I think it set the benchmark for multi Doctor stories Like a low budget lord of the rings like journey Terrance Dicks was a deceptively good choice for it. He had a good handle on how to take the pre-existing elements of a story and fashion them into the enjoyable shape they'd provide (his long tenure at Target probably helped enormously). The Three Doctors was comparably rather simple. You had two in-person lead actors (with one in reserve), the UNIT regulars, the Time Lords and a handful of guest characters. The Third Doctor gets sent away on a classic investigatory plot, while the Second Doctor gets his base-under-siege, and the two meet somewhere in the middle for the battle with Omega. The Five Doctors, on the other hand, has to contend with twice the number of in-person leads (with one still in reserve), their five respective companions (with a couple more to cameo), and at least one appearance from the Daleks, the Cybermen, the Master, the Time Lords, K9, and a Yeti 1. And Dicks still manages to bring us something new, in the form of the Death Zone, the Dark Times and the Tower. Ten years of additional lore later, that's altogether pretty inspired. There was a rumour floating around in 80s fandom about something called The Opera of Doom, which featured Jago, Litefoot, Padmasambhava, Omega, the Master, Rills and Cybermen. 100% an urban myth, was never intended to happen, but the premise feels almost like a dare to try. Fit all those concepts together and tell an enjoyable story. I imagine someone could pull it off. 1 - Age is going from reacting to the Brigadier's line: "Like a cross between Guy Fawkes and Halloween," with Like the holiday? to Wait, like the John Carpenter film? (and thinking, he's absolutely right...)
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Post by thelonecenturion on Jul 9, 2021 7:19:30 GMT
If the 60th anniversary special doesn’t have Peter Capaldi in it, I don’t want it. Depends if the show makes it to the 60th I just hope they don’t snub McGann for the 60th like they did with the 50th Agreed. For every part of me that loves the War Doctor, there's also a part that's thinking "if only the BBC had let Moffat use McGann".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 9:44:15 GMT
Bill is the best 'nu Who' series companion.
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 9, 2021 10:04:41 GMT
Bill is the best 'nu Who' series companion. From the Moffatt New Who era I agree However RTD my vote goes to Donna or Jackson
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 10:08:19 GMT
Bill is the best 'nu Who' series companion. From the Moffatt New Who era I agree However RTD my vote goes to Donna or Jackson I have a very soft spot for Rose, but she could be a bit of a brat at times. Not so with Bill.
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Post by timegirl on Jul 9, 2021 12:08:56 GMT
Bill is the best 'nu Who' series companion. She is very good and she is heartbreaking World Enough in Time and The Doctor Falls! Often when her name gets mentioned though as a good companion though I have to brace myself for the inevitable “Yeh, she was so much better than that awful Clara!”. It frustrates me so much when people constantly use Bill to tear Clara down. Thank you for not doing that in your praise of Bill🙂 Can’t people appreciate both Bill and Clara? They are both very interesting companions with compelling archs and are completely different kinds of companions with totally different relationships to the Doctor (Clara as a romantic partner/soulmate and Bill as a student/surrogate child). Sidenote: If things had played out differently and Clara had stayed with 12 at St Luke’s (as a professor and 12’s wife), I have no doubt that she would have been as much a mentor and parental figure to Bill as 12 is. I can actually hear/imagine the conversations that this surrogate family would be having; 12 and Clara as the parents, Bill as their child, Nardole as the wacky uncle, and Missy as that weird relative you don’t talk about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 14:35:54 GMT
Bill is the best 'nu Who' series companion. She is very good and she is heartbreaking World Enough in Time and The Doctor Falls! Often when her name gets mentioned though as a good companion though I have to brace myself for the inevitable “Yeh, she was so much better than that awful Clara!”. It frustrates me so much when people constantly use Bill to tear Clara down. Thank you for not doing that in your praise of Bill🙂 Can’t people appreciate both Bill and Clara? They are both very interesting companions with compelling archs and are completely different kinds of companions with totally different relationships to the Doctor (Clara as a romantic partner/soulmate and Bill as a student/surrogate child). Sidenote: If things had played out differently and Clara had stayed with 12 at St Luke’s (as a professor and 12’s wife), I have no doubt that she would have been as much a mentor and parental figure to Bill as 12 is. I can actually hear/imagine the conversations that this surrogate family would be having; 12 and Clara as the parents, Bill as their child, Nardole as the wacky uncle, and Missy as that weird relative you don’t talk about. Who fans (and fans of other things, quite possibly) tend to do that kind of thing a lot. Not so much here, thankfully, but on Facebook and the like. 'I like Colin Baker' is inevitably followed with 'he was so much better than Sylvester McCoy'; 'David Tennant is my favourite Doctor' followed by 'all the others have been rubbish'. An extreme example, but these things do happen. Why is that, I wonder? I can't figure it out.
I believe Bill is the best 'nu-Who' companion, which indicates I prefer her over the others - so I don't have to say it! Incidentally, I liked Clara as well, for what it's worth!
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Post by timegirl on Jul 9, 2021 14:38:30 GMT
She is very good and she is heartbreaking World Enough in Time and The Doctor Falls! Often when her name gets mentioned though as a good companion though I have to brace myself for the inevitable “Yeh, she was so much better than that awful Clara!”. It frustrates me so much when people constantly use Bill to tear Clara down. Thank you for not doing that in your praise of Bill🙂 Can’t people appreciate both Bill and Clara? They are both very interesting companions with compelling archs and are completely different kinds of companions with totally different relationships to the Doctor (Clara as a romantic partner/soulmate and Bill as a student/surrogate child). Sidenote: If things had played out differently and Clara had stayed with 12 at St Luke’s (as a professor and 12’s wife), I have no doubt that she would have been as much a mentor and parental figure to Bill as 12 is. I can actually hear/imagine the conversations that this surrogate family would be having; 12 and Clara as the parents, Bill as their child, Nardole as the wacky uncle, and Missy as that weird relative you don’t talk about. Who fans (and fans of other things, quite possibly) tend to do that kind of thing a lot. Not so much here, thankfully, but on Facebook and the like. 'I like Colin Baker' is inevitably followed with 'he was so much better than Sylvester McCoy'; 'David Tennant is my favourite Doctor' followed by 'all the others have been rubbish'. An extreme example, but these things do happen. Why is that, I wonder? I can't figure it out.
I believe Bill is the best 'nu-Who' companion, which indicates I prefer her over the others - so I don't have to say it! Incidentally, I liked Clara as well, for what it's worth!
Yeah that is a real problem in DW fandom🤔Thank you for being reasonable in your praise of Bill and I am glad you enjoyed Clara too 😊
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 14:50:03 GMT
Who fans (and fans of other things, quite possibly) tend to do that kind of thing a lot. Not so much here, thankfully, but on Facebook and the like. 'I like Colin Baker' is inevitably followed with 'he was so much better than Sylvester McCoy'; 'David Tennant is my favourite Doctor' followed by 'all the others have been rubbish'. An extreme example, but these things do happen. Why is that, I wonder? I can't figure it out.
I believe Bill is the best 'nu-Who' companion, which indicates I prefer her over the others - so I don't have to say it! Incidentally, I liked Clara as well, for what it's worth!
Yeah that is a real problem in DW fandom🤔Thank you for being reasonable in your praise of Bill and I am glad you enjoyed Clara too 😊 I've just realised I'm guilty of it myself! A couple of posts up, I said 'I have a very soft spot for Rose, but she could be a bit of a brat at times. Not so with Bill!'
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Post by timegirl on Jul 9, 2021 14:52:31 GMT
Yeah that is a real problem in DW fandom🤔Thank you for being reasonable in your praise of Bill and I am glad you enjoyed Clara too 😊 I've just realised I'm guilty of it myself! A couple of posts up, I said 'I have a very soft spot for Rose, but she could be a bit of a brat at times. Not so with Bill!' It’s okay I probably have been guilty of it myself at certain points too!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2021 7:00:46 GMT
I've just realised I'm guilty of it myself! A couple of posts up, I said 'I have a very soft spot for Rose, but she could be a bit of a brat at times. Not so with Bill!' It’s okay I probably have been guilty of it myself at certain points too! Oh, I think we've all been at one point or another. People are imperfect and enthusiasm can run away with anyone. I've definitely personal preferences, for instance, but they're just that. Personal. In the end, they affect me and only me (and that's how it should be, really). Better to celebrate diversity (it is the Divergent Universe, after all), rather than sit at the bottom of a lightless well surrounded by things to sneer at (that's very Dalek-like, now that I think about it...). The brass band is for praise, not scorn and life's happier that way. Besides, a bit of variety can offer a nice surprise. Like, I'm reading Invasion of the Ormazoids at the moment, which is a (profoundly obscure) Choose-Your-Own-Adventure from Philip Martin. So far, I've been thrown down a whirlpool of serrated blades, almost sacrificed to a primordial sea deity and jettisoned out of an airlock into deep space. I'm having a rollicking good time.
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Post by timegirl on Jul 10, 2021 14:26:34 GMT
Just as a one off, perhaps for the 60th or some other multi Doctor cross over there should inexplicably be an animal incarnation of the Doctor similar to how in “Loki” there was randomly an Alligator Loki. It would be perfectly in keeping with the bizarre spirit of DW and it could easily be explained by this fauna incarnation of the Doctor being another forgotten timeless incarnation. Not sure what kind of animal this incarnation would be, perhaps a dog or an owl or something stranger like a hedgehog or a lizard or a capybara. I wonder if they would talk like a human or perhaps they would just make animal noises and the other incarnations would translate for them.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 10, 2021 14:33:45 GMT
Just as a one off, perhaps for the 60th or some other multi Doctor cross over there should inexplicably be an animal incarnation of the Doctor similar to how in “Loki” there was randomly an Alligator Loki. It would be perfectly in keeping with the bizarre spirit of DW and it could easily be explained by this fauna incarnation of the Doctor being another forgotten timeless incarnation. Not sure what kind of animal this incarnation would be, perhaps a dog or an owl or something stranger like a hedgehog or a lizard or a capybara. I wonder if they would talk like a human or perhaps they would just make animal noises and the other incarnations would translate for them. Allow me to introduce Tardis Tails...a parallel universe version of the Eighth Doctor, who is a talking cat. tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Tardis_Tails
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 10, 2021 16:36:07 GMT
Just as a one off, perhaps for the 60th or some other multi Doctor cross over there should inexplicably be an animal incarnation of the Doctor
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2021 18:49:32 GMT
Just as a one off, perhaps for the 60th or some other multi Doctor cross over there should inexplicably be an animal incarnation of the Doctor
Which we've definitely seen -- well, heard -- in Circular Time, where it's implied to be something that a Time Lord can do with practice and preparation. Maybe one of the Doctor's future incarnations gets the opportunity to pass of natural causes and chooses that new animal form as part of the Change? (Did a quick bit of digging and one of the Lockdown stories, written by RTD, mentions multiple animal incarnations. A gentle little story, too.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2021 21:43:14 GMT
The Happiness Patrol is utterly brilliant on a number of levels.
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