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Post by eldersensorite on Sept 18, 2016 14:52:29 GMT
Why don't you think they would get rid of CDs? There's a huge market for them and some people, such as myself, don't like downloads. Yes, but for how long will that be the case? There was once a huge market for vinyl.
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Post by ljwilson on Sept 18, 2016 14:53:23 GMT
Just a thought re the physical media - there is a label i buy electronic music from and they produce limited edition usb box sets, often in very nicely done wood or metal designs. The box lid slides open to reveal the usb stick sat neatly in a mould in the centre (if that makes sense).
Now that would look fairly snazzy for any physical collector!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 14:54:05 GMT
There's a huge market for them and some people, such as myself, don't like downloads. Yes, but for how long will that be the case? There was once a huge market for vinyl. Ah, but you forget. Vinyl's incredibly expensive, isn't it? And there is still a market. There will always be a form of listening to something without having to download. It's like with books. Having it in your hands is better in about 50% of the populations opinion, really. Possibly more.
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Post by eldersensorite on Sept 18, 2016 15:04:34 GMT
Yes, but for how long will that be the case? There was once a huge market for vinyl. Ah, but you forget. Vinyl's incredibly expensive, isn't it? And there is still a market. There will always be a form of listening to something without having to download. It's like with books. Having it in your hands is better in about 50% of the populations opinion, really. Possibly more. True, but if in the future there is relatively little demand for CDs perhaps BF will become mostly download only but still release the odd book-style limited edition packaging set. I can't see in the distant future there being enough demand for every release to be CD.
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Post by ljwilson on Sept 18, 2016 15:06:41 GMT
How the hell do i insert an image in to one of my messages? I need to show you what i mean...
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Post by agentten on Sept 18, 2016 15:11:13 GMT
I was thinking the other day that if Big Finish eventually evolved their website into a Netflix style streaming service where buying stories/subscriptions unlocks that story for a customer to stream any time they wish, people might go for that. Downloads still present the problem of memory space for some people, but having it all "on the cloud" as it were may appeal to some. I imagine the cost of setting up something like this would be significant, though. Naturally, BF would be expected to transfer many years of customer account information as well so that long time customers would be able to stream all of their past purchases. That could potentially be quite an undertaking.
Personally, I'm a physical media purchaser and I hope to be buying Big Finish CDs in perpetuity, but I recognize that Big Finish may have to change with the times and technology.
As for eventual recasting, I'm not opposed to it. I admit that the reason I came to Big Finish in the first place was to hear the original actors performing new stories. I also buy various Doctor Who audio books and BBC productions, however I don't buy a single one of them that is read/performed by anyone who is not a performer from the era that the story depicts. However, I'm immensely impressed with the recasting that Big Finish has done with the early eras and have decided to start picking some of it up. I crave stories in those eras and I appreciate how well the feel of those eras is captured in Big Finish productions.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 18, 2016 15:23:37 GMT
How the hell do i insert an image in to one of my messages? I need to show you what i mean... 1.Copy the file name of your image
2. Edit post click on insert image button(left of insert film button) then click paste on image URL box
3,Then click Insert image
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Post by muckypup on Sept 18, 2016 15:49:37 GMT
I think the license will go before the CD's do, the death of the CD has been hailed by the media for the last 10 years yet still accounts for just about 50% of sales. Hell they are doing vinyl now! CD's have 20 years yet.
recasting is a tricky one, as to villains you just create new ones or new regenerations like the master & monk that's fine with me
i am happy for a 1st & 2nd doctor recast I think enough time has elapsed to not feel disrespectful & the 3rd doctor recast is great.
as to the current doctors & companions I think when they go you have to leave it there. I don't see anyone taking to a recast brig, Sarah Jane, Liz etc for some time.
i don't ever see a streaming service being successful enough to generate income to make new product.
BF are little boys playing a big boys game, and beating them at it. It's lucky that Audio is a tiny market or a little company would have been swallowed up by now. and let's face it are doing an outstanding job at it.
i never thought that when I bought sirens of time on tape, some 17 years later I would have to have given up buying CD's because I have run out of room, have more hours of audio than I could re-listen to in a year, subscribed to everything as far I can, and spend more time talking about it than I do about the actual program.
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Post by theotherjosh on Sept 18, 2016 16:13:10 GMT
I find myself somewhat torn. I had a conversation along these lines with a friend when the announcement about the most recent license renewal came out.
I'm a latecomer to Big Finish. I didn't know the company existed until about three years ago. But I embraced them enthusiastically, because they tell the kind of Doctor Who stories that I want to hear. I love Big Finish. I would be happy if they kept doing what they're doing until 2050.
But I don't think they will. I think the folks at Big Finish love the legacy of Doctor Who as much as any of us here. They know what they love about it, and they have the raw talent and the technical skills to create something new that channels the best parts of the classic series.
I don't think they will ever *change*. They won't ever lose the basic understanding of what Doctor Who is. The expression of that understanding will continue to evolve and grow as time goes on, but however the stories are distributed, and whoever plays the part, I know they will do it right.
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Post by jasonward on Sept 18, 2016 16:13:26 GMT
1, I think going DL only on everything would mark the beginning of the end of end for BF. Yes you lose manufacture and postage costs, but would selling only £20 a time DLs cover Production costs? Huh? The only reason for stopping selling CD's is because is no longer a profitable thing to do, and the only reason to sell downloads is because it's profitable... how does the point at which selling CD's becomes unprofitable stop downloads from being profitable?
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Post by ljwilson on Sept 18, 2016 18:10:39 GMT
How the hell do i insert an image in to one of my messages? I need to show you what i mean... 1.Copy the file name of your image
2. Edit post click on insert image button(left of insert film button) then click paste on image URL box
3,Then click Insert image
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Thanks Mark, i think because im using my phone i cant see those options. I'll give it a go on my laptop.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 18:34:44 GMT
1.Copy the file name of your image
2. Edit post click on insert image button(left of insert film button) then click paste on image URL box
3,Then click Insert image
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Thanks Mark, i think because im using my phone i cant see those options. I'll give it a go on my laptop. Are you on tapatalk? If so, click the little icon the looks like two mountains between the emoji and the camera.
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Post by Digi on Sept 18, 2016 19:04:11 GMT
I think CDs are going to disappear sooner than later. There's still some life left in them, to be sure, but the cold hard fact is that they're an obsolete medium that's been/is being quickly replaced by digital (iTunes/Amazon/etc) or newer/superior physical media (DVD, Blu-ray, USB drives, etc). Keeping in mind that VHS tapes only stopped being produced earlier this year, I expect CDs will be around for some time yet, but eventually they will be gone. And it's a good bet that Big Finish (and everybody else) will have moved on long before they stop being manufactured.
As to recasting classic Doctors? No, I don't think that'll happen. They've shown a willingness to do so with actors that they've never worked with, but Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, and Paul McGann--not to mention the many, many wonderful actors who have played their companions--have worked for Big Finish for so many years already (and hopefully for many years to come) that they're family. I just don't see them replacing those people. Perhaps continuing stories for them via Companion Chronicles-style storytelling, but full recasting, no.
But I expect instead that, as the licence for the new series grows and expands, there will be more and more of that to replace the old series lines.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 18, 2016 19:06:23 GMT
For as long as the current license applies, I don't see a lot of changes. If the current license is extended, then I think the landscape begins to shift. I would imagine we would start to see more New Doctor Who product, Matt Smith & Peter Capaldi and yes eventually CE joining the fold and less Classic Doctor Who product. There is no walking away from the fact that classic Who actors aren't getting any younger. Recasting a character where the performer has been dead 20, 30 or 40 years is, to my mind anyway, quite a different thing than recasting a part where the performer has only recently passed and has a body of work recorded with Big Finish as their characters. Opening the door to recasting the Third Doctor or Barbara is quite a different thing than deciding to recast the Fourth Doctor or Jo Grant, long may both Tom Baker & Katy Manning live. Heck, does anyone feel comfortable with recasting the Brig or Sarah Jane? And on the physical media side, I would imagine that the more New Who content BF produces, the less die hard CD buyers they will have to accommodate and we start to see CDs become more expensive. I don't think the CD ever really goes away but I do think it becomes more a niche product. I think the really interesting discussion becomes what does BF do if the BBC decides to not renew. Not that I want that to happen.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 18, 2016 19:13:25 GMT
1, I think going DL only on everything would mark the beginning of the end of end for BF. Yes you lose manufacture and postage costs, but would selling only £20 a time DLs cover Production costs? Huh? The only reason for stopping selling CD's is because is no longer a profitable thing to do, and the only reason to sell downloads is because it's profitable... how does the point at which selling CD's becomes unprofitable stop downloads from being profitable? Sorry my meaning was if they went the DL only route could BF still cover their production costs, make a profit. maintain the number ranges, and avoid losing out to torrent if they sold them at £20 a time, and also would anyone pay more then £20 for a Dl only cause if Nick Briggs is sincre about current costs I doubt they'd sell a new Full=Cast production for less?
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Post by Stan on Sept 18, 2016 21:09:37 GMT
Problem I have with download is when they lose a license, for example Stargate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 21:22:29 GMT
Problem I have with download is when they lose a license, for example Stargate. I'm pretty sure that if you bought it after it leaves Big Finish, You still have access. But if you mean that you can't get through websites such as eBay, than I understand.
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Post by jasonward on Sept 18, 2016 21:39:07 GMT
Problem I have with download is when they lose a license, for example Stargate. Stargate is still in my account and downloadable.
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Post by barnabaslives on Sept 18, 2016 22:01:07 GMT
If CD ever peters out, maybe the market will wake up for CD-quality downloads? I can hope they're less popular to pirate, also. "Why upload 600m when you can defile it all the way down to 60m first?" seems to be the way the blaggards think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 5:40:58 GMT
If CD ever peters out, maybe the market will wake up for CD-quality downloads? I can hope they're less popular to pirate, also. "Why upload 600m when you can defile it all the way down to 60m first?" seems to be the way the blaggards think. It does seem odd that if you buy a Big Finish title through Humble Bundle you get the original digital audio files in FLAC format, but BF themselves don't offer the same.
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