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Post by Ela on Sept 20, 2016 17:27:10 GMT
That's why you make backups, duh. Pretty remote that you would "accidentally" delete your download collection from everywhere you have it stored. And your premise also assumes that the BF site is no longer available so you could re-download. Which, granted, may happen some day, but hopefully not for a long time. Nothing is permanent. CDs can also become damaged and unusable. And at some point we may no longer have the technology to play them.
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Post by jasonward on Sept 20, 2016 17:32:30 GMT
Huh? So... that's worse than loosing or damaging a CD? IMO it is much less likely you'll lose or damage a CD. lol, you have to be kidding, or just a very different type of person to me, I've lost or damaged more CD's than I care to remember (were talking hundreds perhaps even thousands) and I've seen all sorts badly damaged CD's floating around peoples cars, homes etc but I still have all the digital downloads I've ever paid for, and they are as good as the day I got them.
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Post by Ela on Sept 20, 2016 17:49:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 18:10:39 GMT
Only problem with downloads is if you accidentally delete them from every cloud, computer and external storage and the Big Finish servers are down or permanently gone then you are stuck with nothing. Huh? So... that's worse than loosing or damaging a CD? Also, if BF have vanished and their are no more legitimate sources for the audios they would in effect become like abondonware and other sources would pop up, and much like most abondonware no one would try to stop it. Just so I am completely informed does things that are not being sold through retail( such as Big Finish's Stargate Series, best example I could come up with) become abandon ware. Thanks, just trying to wrap my head around the concept as I find it very interesting.
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Post by jasonward on Sept 20, 2016 18:29:11 GMT
Huh? So... that's worse than loosing or damaging a CD? Also, if BF have vanished and their are no more legitimate sources for the audios they would in effect become like abondonware and other sources would pop up, and much like most abondonware no one would try to stop it. Just so I am completely informed does things that are not being sold through retail( such as Big Finish's Stargate Series, best example I could come up with) become abandon ware. Thanks, just trying to wrap my head around the concept as I find it very interesting. Abandonware is not a legal term, and copyright almost always still exists on these items, for the most part (since there is no definitive definition of abandonware) what people mean by abandonware is software that rights holder both no longer cares to exploit commercially and no longer cares to enforce their rights. I would suspect that WB would enforce their rights over Stargate audio at least for the next 10 to 20 years for no other reason than its the kind of things WB would do, and I would suspect that BF would also seek to enforce, or at least be very unhappy that their works were being copied for a least 3 or 4 years (remember, these timings are my suspicions, not based on anything BF or WB have said, or indicated). Stargate audios would only fall into abandonware category once the rights holders no longer cared. But even if the rights holders no longer care, and no one is going to prosecute you, you should still remember that you would be breaking the law by making copies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 21:09:10 GMT
Just so I am completely informed does things that are not being sold through retail( such as Big Finish's Stargate Series, best example I could come up with) become abandon ware. Thanks, just trying to wrap my head around the concept as I find it very interesting. Abandonware is not a legal term, and copyright almost always still exists on these items, for the most part (since there is no definitive definition of abandonware) what people mean by abandonware is software that rights holder both no longer cares to exploit commercially and no longer cares to enforce their rights. I would suspect that WB would enforce their rights over Stargate audio at least for the next 10 to 20 years for no other reason than its the kind of things WB would do, and I would suspect that BF would also seek to enforce, or at least be very unhappy that their works were being copied for a least 3 or 4 years (remember, these timings are my suspicions, not based on anything BF or WB have said, or indicated). Stargate audios would only fall into abandonware category once the rights holders no longer cared. But even if the rights holders no longer care, and no one is going to prosecute you, you should still remember that you would be breaking the law by making copies. Oh I know, just used as an example as it applies to the forum( I don't even care for Stargate)
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 20, 2016 21:15:36 GMT
IMO it is much less likely you'll lose or damage a CD. lol, you have to be kidding, or just a very different type of person to me, I've lost or damaged more CD's than I care to remember (were talking hundreds perhaps even thousands) and I've seen all sorts badly damaged CD's floating around peoples cars, homes etc but I still have all the digital downloads I've ever paid for, and they are as good as the day I got them. That's funny. I can count on two hands how many CDs I've damaged over the past decade or so. Probably the obsessive collector in me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 21:31:26 GMT
lol, you have to be kidding, or just a very different type of person to me, I've lost or damaged more CD's than I care to remember (were talking hundreds perhaps even thousands) and I've seen all sorts badly damaged CD's floating around peoples cars, homes etc but I still have all the digital downloads I've ever paid for, and they are as good as the day I got them. That's funny. I can count on two hands how many CDs I've damaged over the past decade or so. Probably the obsessive collector in me. Yeah, I'd be the same. 99% of the CDs I have ever bought would still be in good condition. Especially my Big Finish ones, they are well looked after. That all stems from my collector mentality though. My BF downloads are also well looked after, probably for the same reason. I make back-ups of anything I download online. Collectors can indeed be obsessive... it is fun though!
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Post by Ela on Sept 21, 2016 2:22:17 GMT
If I buy a CD, I generally rip it to my computer rather than play the original CD more than once, in order to protect the CD. I used to copy stuff onto an inexpensive CD so I could listen in the car without worrying about damaging an original CD putting it in and out of the CD player while driving, but now I just listen on my iPod, iPad, or phone when I'm out of the house.
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