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Post by aztec on Oct 19, 2016 16:19:36 GMT
Episodes 5 and 9 are apparently being filmed currently, which could suggest that one is a companion lite episode and the other Doctor lite (Capaldi is apparently going to reprise the role he had in the first Paddington film in the sequel which I think is filming at the moment) and/or that epsor 6/7 or 7/8 could be two parters...
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 19, 2016 17:02:24 GMT
Episodes 5 and 9 are apparently being filmed currently, which could suggest that one is a companion lite episode and the other Doctor lite (Capaldi is apparently going to reprise the role he had in the first Paddington film in the sequel which I think is filming at the moment) and/or that epsor 6/7 or 7/8 could be two parters... We wait 8 months for filming to start, and Capaldi buggers off to film Paddington 2!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 17:06:50 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2016 17:30:10 GMT
Episodes 5 and 9 are apparently being filmed currently, which could suggest that one is a companion lite episode and the other Doctor lite (Capaldi is apparently going to reprise the role he had in the first Paddington film in the sequel which I think is filming at the moment) and/or that epsor 6/7 or 7/8 could be two parters... My guess is companion-lite and Doctor-lite. It would be interesting if we got a Doctor-lite story with Missy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 17:34:20 GMT
Episodes 5 and 9 are apparently being filmed currently, which could suggest that one is a companion lite episode and the other Doctor lite (Capaldi is apparently going to reprise the role he had in the first Paddington film in the sequel which I think is filming at the moment) and/or that epsor 6/7 or 7/8 could be two parters... My guess is companion-lite and Doctor-lite. It would be interesting if we got a Doctor-lite story with Missy. I doubt it. Missy has had very, very scarce reaction with the 12th Doctor, whilst she's been the Master, except Death In Heaven and 5 minutes of the Series 9 opener.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2016 18:43:27 GMT
My guess is companion-lite and Doctor-lite. It would be interesting if we got a Doctor-lite story with Missy. I doubt it. Missy has had very, very scarce reaction with the 12th Doctor, whilst she's been the Master, except Death In Heaven and 5 minutes of the Series 9 opener. I don't know how you can say that. Missy's been in a lot of the same scenes as the 12th Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:48:40 GMT
I doubt it. Missy has had very, very scarce reaction with the 12th Doctor, whilst she's been the Master, except Death In Heaven and 5 minutes of the Series 9 opener. I don't know how you can say that. Missy's been in a lot of the same scenes as the 12th Doctor. Because I think her relationship with Capaldi hasn't been explored. However, having her not on the same screen as Capaldi, helps to make me forget she's the Master. My problem with her is that she's meant to be the Master, yet doesn't act like any previous iteration of the character. I still think it would have been better not to have her as the Master, but her own separate character. And that isn't just because it's a female Master.
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Post by xlozdob on Oct 19, 2016 20:27:25 GMT
I don't know how you can say that. Missy's been in a lot of the same scenes as the 12th Doctor. Because I think her relationship with Capaldi hasn't been explored. However, having her not on the same screen as Capaldi, helps to make me forget she's the Master. My problem with her is that she's meant to be the Master, yet doesn't act like any previous iteration of the character. I still think it would have been better not to have her as the Master, but her own separate character. And that isn't just because it's a female Master. Yet there are many who think Gomez's portrayal is the one that draws the most from Delgado's, in terms of what makes the character special (at least that's what I inferred from this thread). Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, and, by no means, your experience of the character will ever be the same as anyone else's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:48:00 GMT
Because I think her relationship with Capaldi hasn't been explored. However, having her not on the same screen as Capaldi, helps to make me forget she's the Master. My problem with her is that she's meant to be the Master, yet doesn't act like any previous iteration of the character. I still think it would have been better not to have her as the Master, but her own separate character. And that isn't just because it's a female Master. Yet there are many who think Gomez's portrayal is the one that draws the most from Delgado's, in terms of what makes the character special (at least that's what I inferred from this thread). Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, and, by no means, your experience of the character will ever be the same as anyone else's. I, personally, think the only time she's been like Delgado is the bit when she was behind the 3W sign. The one I can relate her to most is Eric Roberts. No. I'm not trying to dis her. In fact, I like the performance, just not how it's written.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2016 21:20:07 GMT
Yet there are many who think Gomez's portrayal is the one that draws the most from Delgado's, in terms of what makes the character special (at least that's what I inferred from this thread). Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, and, by no means, your experience of the character will ever be the same as anyone else's. I, personally, think the only time she's been like Delgado is the bit when she was behind the 3W sign. The one I can relate her to most is Eric Roberts. No. I'm not trying to dis her. In fact, I like the performance, just not how it's written. She's nothing like Eric Roberts' Master IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 21:29:19 GMT
I, personally, think the only time she's been like Delgado is the bit when she was behind the 3W sign. The one I can relate her to most is Eric Roberts. No. I'm not trying to dis her. In fact, I like the performance, just not how it's written. She's nothing like Eric Roberts' Master IMO. Fair enough. That is your opinion of course.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 19, 2016 22:12:38 GMT
I, personally, think the only time she's been like Delgado is the bit when she was behind the 3W sign. The one I can relate her to most is Eric Roberts. No. I'm not trying to dis her. In fact, I like the performance, just not how it's written. She's nothing like Eric Roberts' Master IMO. She's nothing like Roger Delgados Master.
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Post by icecreamdf on Oct 20, 2016 0:52:29 GMT
She's nothing like Eric Roberts' Master IMO. She's nothing like Roger Delgados Master. I'd have to agree with you there. I love Missy, but Michelle Gomez's portrayal is very different from Roger Delgado's. Which is a good thing. If I wanted somebody copying Roger Delgado, I'd watch Anthony Ainley.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 20, 2016 6:07:41 GMT
She's nothing like Eric Roberts' Master IMO. She's nothing like Roger Delgados Master. I disagree. I think she is the new series Master with the most similarities to Roger Degaldo.
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Post by aztec on Oct 20, 2016 8:58:31 GMT
I always find it slightly bizarre when people want the Doctor to be completely different in each incarnation, but apparently hate the thought of the Master being played slightly differently, Delgrado was great as a sinister calculating Moriarty figure, but paying homage to his performance in each subsequent recast is more of an insult than tribute i.m.o, the Master has always been a very thin, generic villain anyway and only varies between sinister and calculating (Delgrado) or bat crap crazy (Simm-even Simm had issues with his performance) so there's not that much you can do with the character, for me the best Masters have been the ones who act as a polar opposite foil to their Doctor-and for me at least Missy is certainly one of the best, casting a actress in the role has certainly helped to freshen up the character i.m.o and he bonkers yet sinister Master acts as a great counterpoint to Capaldi's more reserved Doctor.
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Post by aztec on Oct 20, 2016 9:02:06 GMT
Episodes 5 and 9 are apparently being filmed currently, which could suggest that one is a companion lite episode and the other Doctor lite (Capaldi is apparently going to reprise the role he had in the first Paddington film in the sequel which I think is filming at the moment) and/or that epsor 6/7 or 7/8 could be two parters... We wait 8 months for filming to start, and Capaldi buggers off to film Paddington 2! I haven't seen the first film but I gather his role wasn't that big, in the sequel I'd assume much the same, probably an extended cameo or secondary supporting character, it may have been a contractual obligation and as most New Who series have a Doctor light episode built into the production schedule I wouldn't blame Capaldi for taking another job at the time whilst he can, I remember reading one of the reasons Series 10 was delayed was because of a knee injury Capaldi sustained during S9.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 20, 2016 9:30:50 GMT
We wait 8 months for filming to start, and Capaldi buggers off to film Paddington 2! I haven't seen the first film but I gather his role wasn't that big, in the sequel I'd assume much the same, probably an extended cameo or secondary supporting character, it may have been a contractual obligation and as most New Who series have a Doctor light episode built into the production schedule I wouldn't blame Capaldi for taking another job at the time whilst he can, I remember reading one of the reasons Series 10 was delayed was because of a knee injury Capaldi sustained during S9. Why have a Doctor-lite episode in the first place? There's no Doctor Who until sometime next year!
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 20, 2016 9:48:04 GMT
I haven't seen the first film but I gather his role wasn't that big, in the sequel I'd assume much the same, probably an extended cameo or secondary supporting character, it may have been a contractual obligation and as most New Who series have a Doctor light episode built into the production schedule I wouldn't blame Capaldi for taking another job at the time whilst he can, I remember reading one of the reasons Series 10 was delayed was because of a knee injury Capaldi sustained during S9. Why have a Doctor-lite episode in the first place? There's no Doctor Who until sometime next year! To be fair, and meaning no offence, why do you care? You don't like the new series anyway, and (judging by your previous comments here and elsewhere on the forum) you're not going to like this next series. Why monitor what/where the show is doing/going unless you are actually willing to have an open mind about it? I'll happily admit that I haven't particularly enjoyed the last few years of TV episodes - don't get me wrong, there have been some good ones! - but I don't feel it's necessary to question/complain about EVERYTHING that happens (apart from Missy - sorry, I'm one of those people, but my reasons are probably expressed by many other people on the internet, so I needn't repeat them here). All I'm trying to say is we understand your feelings towards the new series, and, generally, what you feel is wrong with it and why. While I'm not trying to limit open discussion (I'm all for that!), sometimes I feel you can go too far in stating the same things again and again, when it really isn't necessary.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Oct 20, 2016 10:28:07 GMT
Why have a Doctor-lite episode in the first place? There's no Doctor Who until sometime next year! To be fair, and meaning no offence, why do you care? You don't like the new series anyway, and (judging by your previous comments here and elsewhere on the forum) you're not going to like this next series. Why monitor what/where the show is doing/going unless you are actually willing to have an open mind about it? I'll happily admit that I haven't particularly enjoyed the last few years of TV episodes - don't get me wrong, there have been some good ones! - but I don't feel it's necessary to question/complain about EVERYTHING that happens (apart from Missy - sorry, I'm one of those people, but my reasons are probably expressed by many other people on the internet, so I needn't repeat them here). All I'm trying to say is we understand your feelings towards the new series, and, generally, what you feel is wrong with it and why. While I'm not trying to limit open discussion (I'm all for that!), sometimes I feel you can go too far in stating the same things again and again, when it really isn't necessary. As, I have said before, I love the idea of a mysterious traveller in a police box that travels through time and space. Although, he is now a "madman in a box", and there is very little mystery about him left. (Moffat seems to love corroding away any mystery) As a BBC licence fee payer, I am entitled to get an actors monies worth. Capaldi is well paid, and should be a main character in every episode. I stopped watching Doctor Who "live", and watch later. (in the vain hope it improves) Capaldis Doctor isn't likeable ("Shut up, you don't get to name things"!) Yeah, thats appealing! even, if I repeat my statements, it tends to be because a poster has asked a question, or make a false statement. Lots of people on here don't like 2 or 3 different aspects of NuWho, I simply don't like more of them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 10:34:20 GMT
I always find it slightly bizarre when people want the Doctor to be completely different in each incarnation, but apparently hate the thought of the Master being played slightly differently, Delgrado was great as a sinister calculating Moriarty figure, but paying homage to his performance in each subsequent recast is more of an insult than tribute i.m.o, the Master has always been a very thin, generic villain anyway and only varies between sinister and calculating (Delgrado) or bat crap crazy (Simm-even Simm had issues with his performance) so there's not that much you can do with the character, for me the best Masters have been the ones who act as a polar opposite foil to their Doctor-and for me at least Missy is certainly one of the best, casting a actress in the role has certainly helped to freshen up the character i.m.o and he bonkers yet sinister Master acts as a great counterpoint to Capaldi's more reserved Doctor. My problem with it, and I'm fine if you disagree with me, is that we've had a number of people playing the Master (don't worry, the only reason I'm listing them is to remind myself and possibly others): Delgado, Pratt, Beevers, Ainsley, Roberts, MacQueen, Jacobi and Simm. They've all had some things common place between them: they hate the Doctor, they want to cause pain to the Doctor, they are all very sinister and a couple of other things. My problem with Missy isn't down to the performance. In fact, taken in the context of a separate character, it's really good. But my problem is that she wants to be the Doctor's friend. She's on the Doctor's side for all of the Series 9 opener. She's also rarely sinister. Only in a few scenes. I don't think it helps that she's playing against Capaldi, who I'd rate as the least original Doctor in the history of the show. They clash, yes. But they clash like badly played notes on a keyboard. Of course, that's just my opinion. You are allowed to have your own.
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