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Post by omega on Nov 3, 2016 9:48:31 GMT
Oooooh no, sorry, don't like the idea of foreshadowing Tegan's departure at all. The whole point is that she makes a snap decision after a horrendous day. Tegan's impetuous, and speaks before she thinks, she makes her decision there and then in the moment. And then *crucially* she comes back. She runs back in. She has *already* changed her mind. If the Doctor and Turlough hadn't left yet, she'd have gone off with them. But isn't Resurrection of the Daleks just the straw that broke the camel's back? A death count that's at least a Terminator movie level would do that. We know Warriors of the Deep had a pretty depressing ending (some of the acting and special effects were also depressing), so there could be some stories in that gap that were also grim.
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Post by bobod on Nov 3, 2016 9:53:15 GMT
Oooooh no, sorry, don't like the idea of foreshadowing Tegan's departure at all. The whole point is that she makes a snap decision after a horrendous day. Tegan's impetuous, and speaks before she thinks, she makes her decision there and then in the moment. And then *crucially* she comes back. She runs back in. She has *already* changed her mind. If the Doctor and Turlough hadn't left yet, she'd have gone off with them. But isn't Resurrection of the Daleks just the straw that broke the camel's back? A death count that's at least a Terminator movie level would do that. We know Warriors of the Deep had a pretty depressing ending (some of the acting and special effects were also depressing), so there could be some stories in that gap that were also grim. I think that'd be hammering it home, to be honest. Yes, it's the final straw, but it is, to be fair, a helluva straw *on its own*, it's not like she up and leaves at the end of any old story.
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Post by bobod on Nov 3, 2016 9:56:56 GMT
Oh, and Susan and The Doctor both already knew who the Cybermen were before each encountered them on screen...
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 3, 2016 12:15:12 GMT
Oh, and Susan and The Doctor both already knew who the Cybermen were before each encountered them on screen... Do they? The Doctor knew about Mondas, but he didn't actually seem to know anything about the Cybermen.
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Post by bobod on Nov 3, 2016 12:35:17 GMT
Oh, and Susan and The Doctor both already knew who the Cybermen were before each encountered them on screen... Do they? The Doctor knew about Mondas, but he didn't actually seem to know anything about the Cybermen. Oh yes - sorry... HE knows Mondas, SUSAN knows the Cybermen. So a Companion Chronicle then, or a Doctor-lite Early Adventure.
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Post by bobod on Nov 3, 2016 12:38:23 GMT
Oh and I can't believe they haven't done a Sixties Multi-Doctor story.
Imagine it - the Doctor and Steven meet The Doctor and Jamie.
Peter and Frazer at their best.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 3, 2016 12:52:53 GMT
Oh and I can't believe they haven't done a Sixties Multi-Doctor story. Imagine it - the Doctor and Steven meet The Doctor and Jamie. Peter and Frazer at their best. Well, that's not really that hard to believe, since the Early Adventures is still a relatively new range. They could have done it as a Companion Chronicle, but I'm not sure that a multi-Doctor story would really work without a (mostly) full cast. Besides, I think BF tends to avoid multi-Doctor stories.
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Post by bobod on Nov 3, 2016 13:08:45 GMT
Oh and I can't believe they haven't done a Sixties Multi-Doctor story. Imagine it - the Doctor and Steven meet The Doctor and Jamie. <SNIP> They could have done it as a Companion Chronicle, but I'm not sure that a multi-Doctor story would really work without a (mostly) full cast. Oh I dunno - we should try different takes on things. Different approaches. The two Doctors, Steven and Jamie trapped together somewhere would work enough for a one disc plot if we're talking a Chronicle.
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Post by chrisscorkscrew on Nov 3, 2016 13:21:09 GMT
I really like some of the ideas on this thread, but can't help thinking that some unscrupulous bounder might mine some of them for a future Paul Spragg Short Trip competition entry! Chriss C.
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Post by dasmaniac on Nov 3, 2016 20:51:34 GMT
I still can't believe that the Early Adventures hasn't had one Dalek story yet. I love the 60's Daleks. They're wonderful. Other strange oddities I can think of include:
-Not even one story with the First Doctor, Ben, and Polly. At least do a short trip. I fully understand the hesitation in doing more stories with that TARDIS team but a few more can work. They can travel with the First Doctor a bit longer than seen on screen and still really know nothing about the man.
- I don't believe the Revenge style Cybermen have ever appeared in a Big Finish story. I know they were never that popular but I think they might work much better on audio.
- The Master still hasn't encountered Romana.
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Post by aztec on Nov 3, 2016 21:29:59 GMT
Another Multi Doctor story with the 4th Doctor and 8th Doctors, they are not only very popular Doctors with BF listeners and fans, they made a hilarious but surprisingly effective Double act in Light At The End, LATE was one of the first BF stories I listened to and multi Doctor stories are always a draw for people.
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Post by lidar on Nov 3, 2016 22:26:03 GMT
Agree with the comments about the unused or underused TARDIS crews, i.e. 1 Ben & Polly, 2 Ben & Polly, 4 and Adric, 5 Tegan and Turlough.
Surprised also we never got Mel's 1st story, a Glitz story or adaptations of Lungbarrow and Dying Days
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Post by xlozdob on Nov 3, 2016 22:32:59 GMT
- The Master still hasn't encountered Romana. Apart from the obvious choice of having Beevers!Master meet Romana in a 4DA, why not introduce MacQueen!Master in the Gallifrey range to further foreshadow the Time War. Also, as it's been mentioned many times before, NuWho CCs and Short Trips, especially for Nine.
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Post by dastari on Nov 3, 2016 23:11:21 GMT
I'm a little surprised we haven't had a First Doctor Dalek story. But admittedly, it feels odd to slot in any extra stories before TDMP - maybe now that they've got a Ben for their Polly? (Edit: er wait they met the Daleks in Power for the first time didn't they? It would have to be Steven and Dodo then. Perhaps I do get why they haven't done it...) I think we're all waiting for the Pertwee Cyberman story as well. The only gap that really works for the first Doctor and Daleks is Steven and Vicki. IIRC Steven never says that the Chase was the only time that he encountered the Daleks before TDMP, so it's possible to slot another Dalek story in there, or I suppose you could slot it in after The First Wave and before The Massacre, but that's pretty much it I think. I'd like to see a first Doctor with Cybermen story. Someone mentioned that it needs to be a Companion Chronicle, but I don't see any reason why it couldn't be a first Doctor/Ian/Barbara/Susan Early Adventure. I definitely can't believe that we haven't had a Companion Chronicle with K-9, Adric, Tegan, or Mel yet. I'd be all for recasting Kamelion to let him have a CC as well. I'm surprised that each EA season doesn't have one six-parter. I'm surprised that they haven't done a first Doctor/second Doctor crossover EA. I'm surprised that we haven't yet had a Polly CC from her time with the first Doctor. I'm honestly surprised that no one has ever thought of having the Doctor (any Doctor) visit Ian and Barbara and take their child or grandchild with him as a companion. 4th Doctor/Adric season and an E-Space box set. A Rocket Men story for every Doctor. I'm tired right now or I'd probably think of a few dozen more. I think that's good for now.
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Post by dasmaniac on Nov 4, 2016 2:12:50 GMT
Oh, and Susan and The Doctor both already knew who the Cybermen were before each encountered them on screen... Do they? The Doctor knew about Mondas, but he didn't actually seem to know anything about the Cybermen. The impression I got with the First Doctor is that he knew more than he was letting on. I doubt it was intentional or written in the script but man Hartnell's was terrific in that scene. The First Doctor was notorious for sharing very little information with his companions. I got the impression that he knew more but just either couldn't or wouldn't share what he knew.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 2:22:51 GMT
Do they? The Doctor knew about Mondas, but he didn't actually seem to know anything about the Cybermen. Oh yes - sorry... HE knows Mondas, SUSAN knows the Cybermen. So a Companion Chronicle then, or a Doctor-lite Early Adventure. I dunno... He said he knew what the planet meant to Earth and to expect visitors. The way he was talking to Krang at first seemed more goading than anything else. That said, there's certainly a lot of room in her later time on twenty-second century Earth for an encounter after The Dalek Invasion of Earth and before The Five Doctors. That reminds me of the Planet 14 reference in The Invasion, I'm surprised Big Finish haven't taken a stab at their own interpretation of that yet. <SNIP> They could have done it as a Companion Chronicle, but I'm not sure that a multi-Doctor story would really work without a (mostly) full cast. Oh I dunno - we should try different takes on things. Different approaches. The two Doctors, Steven and Jamie trapped together somewhere would work enough for a one disc plot if we're talking a Chronicle. Something like The Jigsaw War you mean? Where we only get to see a snapshot of a much larger adventure? I still can't believe that the Early Adventures hasn't had one Dalek story yet. I love the 60's Daleks. They're wonderful Well, I think there could be made room in The Daleks' Master Plan gap with Steven and Sara if needs be. You could play around with the alliance of worlds that have co-opted their resources into helping the Daleks. Might require a little jiggery-pokery though. - I don't believe the Revenge style Cybermen have ever appeared in a Big Finish story. I know they were never that popular but I think they might work much better on audio. Killing Ground is a good place to go if you want to redeem the CyberNomads. It states, among other things, that their overt displays of emotion are calculated to intimidate their opponents and that when the Cyber-Leader is destroyed, all Cyber-weaponry is rendered inert to prevent people using their own arms against them. Notably, they're given actual guns as well as the ones embedded in their headpieces. I think it's their voices more than anything that make them unappealing on audio, they're comparatively very bland. I think we might've had one appearance by Revenge-era Cybermen and that was maybe Sword of Orion because it fits that timeframe.
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Post by kimalysong on Nov 4, 2016 9:14:48 GMT
Oh and I can't believe they haven't done a Sixties Multi-Doctor story. Imagine it - the Doctor and Steven meet The Doctor and Jamie. Peter and Frazer at their best. Going to see Frazer, Peter, and Nick at a con next weekend. Maybe I should casually bring this idea up.
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Post by bobod on Nov 4, 2016 9:26:23 GMT
Oh and I can't believe they haven't done a Sixties Multi-Doctor story. Imagine it - the Doctor and Steven meet The Doctor and Jamie. Peter and Frazer at their best. Going to see Frazer, Peter, and Nick at a con next weekend. Maybe I should casually bring this idea up. "Just imagine"
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 4, 2016 11:38:54 GMT
I would love for BF to do some Original adventures with 7, Roz and Chris that aren't Novel Adapts.
Would be nice to have more of this team, especially if BF wont be doing adapts for a while
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Post by omega on Nov 10, 2016 4:01:49 GMT
Even if it is just a Short Trip, a story where Nyssa has a proper chance to work through the fact her father has been taken over by the Master and all the emotions that she should be feeling. It's skated over in the TV show, and Nyssa hasn't had that many Master stories to process how she feels about it.
On that note, a Fifth Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan story set between Earthshock and Time-Flight, where they deal with the death of Adric. Like Nyssa's father, it's barely even mentioned and everyone seems unaffected by what is a significant event. A couple of audios have touched upon it, but usually it's a small moment in a larger story. A whole story based purely on how the three of them deal the grief would be very emotionally touching.
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