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Post by Digi on Dec 1, 2016 2:44:23 GMT
Do we have anybody here familiar enough with the TV series to place the Big Finish releases relative to the TV episodes?
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Post by coldlazarou on Dec 1, 2016 11:16:24 GMT
Odd timing, as i was just working a chronology out this morning!  Incorporates BF series 1 to 5, and goes up to the end of TV series 2. As BF series 6 (and presumably 7) is going to be set during TV series 3, but we don't know where, i've left that for now. BF audios marked with an asterisk*. Here we go: The Fourth Horseman *Revelation *Exodus Genesis Gone Away Corn Dolly Gone to the Angels Garland's War Starvation Spoil of War Law and Order The Future Hour Revenge Something of Value *Judges *Esther A Beginning *Dark Rain *Mother's Courage *The Hunted *Savages *Cabin Fever *Contact *Rescue *Leaving Birth of a Hope Greater Love Lights of London (Parts I and II) Face of the Tiger The Witch A Friend in Need By Bread Alone The Chosen *The Old Ways *For the Good of the Cause *Collision *Forgive and Forget *The Second Coming *New Blood *Angel of Death *Come the Horsemen Parasites New Arrivals Over the Hills New World. Hope that's a help.  |
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Post by Digi on Dec 1, 2016 12:10:36 GMT
Cool, well done and thanks  |
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Post by eldersensorite on Dec 1, 2016 15:48:39 GMT
I have been maintaining a timeline and I placed Big Finish's series 4 and 5 between Over The Hills and New World - purely because of a line in series 4 that I can't quite remember exactly (I may edit with the exact quote later if I can be bothered) about even Charles coming to accept that it wasn't the women's only role to get pregnant, which he realises in Over The Hills. I don't know if there's any better evidence for their placement - I may just be holding onto a singular relatively unimportant line, but that's my thoughts.
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Post by coldlazarou on Dec 2, 2016 19:59:37 GMT
I have been maintaining a timeline and I placed Big Finish's series 4 and 5 between Over The Hills and New World - purely because of a line in series 4 that I can't quite remember exactly (I may edit with the exact quote later if I can be bothered) about even Charles coming to accept that it wasn't the women's only role to get pregnant, which he realises in Over The Hills. I don't know if there's any better evidence for their placement - I may just be holding onto a singular relatively unimportant line, but that's my thoughts. Ah - you may well be right about that. I haven't actually heard series 4 & 5 yet: i was operating on info i had from Gallifrey Base, where someone had asked one of the authors where S4 was placed, and 'after episode 9' was the conclusion reached. I suppose i may have been over literal there. Hmm. |
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Post by eldersensorite on Dec 2, 2016 21:36:16 GMT
I have been maintaining a timeline and I placed Big Finish's series 4 and 5 between Over The Hills and New World - purely because of a line in series 4 that I can't quite remember exactly (I may edit with the exact quote later if I can be bothered) about even Charles coming to accept that it wasn't the women's only role to get pregnant, which he realises in Over The Hills. I don't know if there's any better evidence for their placement - I may just be holding onto a singular relatively unimportant line, but that's my thoughts. Ah - you may well be right about that. I haven't actually heard series 4 & 5 yet: i was operating on info i had from Gallifrey Base, where someone had asked one of the authors where S4 was placed, and 'after episode 9' was the conclusion reached. I suppose i may have been over literal there. Hmm. Just checked - the exact quote was "you can't just make women breeding machines, even Charles has realised that". Again, there may be better evidence, but this was the only clue in terms of placement I spotted (but then I have only listened to them once, and I wasn't exactly analysing every line to find placement clues, so I easily could have missed something). |
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Post by Digi on Dec 2, 2016 23:24:48 GMT
If it was a pivotal development for Charles (again, I haven't seen the TV series), it sounds like it could be a solid marker by which the BF line can be placed.
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Post by coldlazarou on Dec 3, 2016 7:46:45 GMT
Aha. (Tears page out of notebook wherein i'd made the list [yes, i keep things like chronologies for TV shows & audios in notebooks. Yes, this may well be at the tragic end of OCD]) Right, then: The Fourth Horseman *Revelation *Exodus Genesis Gone Away Corn Dolly Gone to the Angels Garland's War Starvation Spoil of War Law and Order The Future Hour Revenge Something of Value *Judges *Esther A Beginning *Dark Rain *Mother's Courage *The Hunted *Savages *Cabin Fever *Contact *Rescue *Leaving Birth of a Hope Greater Love Lights of London (Parts I and II) Face of the Tiger The Witch A Friend in Need By Bread Alone The Chosen Parasites New Arrivals Over the Hills *The Old Ways *For the Good of the Cause *Collision *Forgive and Forget *The Second Coming *New Blood *Angel of Death *Come the Horsemen New World Cheers for the input, ElderSensorite! I'm going to be going through the series - TV & audio - after Christmas, so it's good to have it mapped out correctly. Now, if only we could get a hint of where box sets 6 and 7 are to go regarding season 3... |
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Post by Digi on Dec 3, 2016 12:53:28 GMT
Could end up being more difficult...there was mention of them on a podcast a few months back where they said that Series 6 and 7 will be more episodic rather than arc-based, so it could be that they may not be able to be dropped between TV episodes as a single convenient block. That said, the same podcast said that they were moving 'later in the TV timeline,' would narrow it down to having to be placed during TV series 3.
So maybe the challenge level will be about the same after all.
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Post by eldersensorite on Dec 3, 2016 13:45:56 GMT
Aha. (Tears page out of notebook wherein i'd made the list [yes, i keep things like chronologies for TV shows & audios in notebooks. Yes, this may well be at the tragic end of OCD]) Right, then: ... Cheers for the input, ElderSensorite! I'm going to be going through the series - TV & audio - after Christmas, so it's good to have it mapped out correctly. Now, if only we could get a hint of where box sets 6 and 7 are to go regarding season 3... That's pretty much what I have, but if I was being pedantic about it being a chronology, Cabin Fever (or at least the flashback story in it) and The Old Ways should be at the beginning. However, as far as a watching/listening order goes without being too precise about the timeline, this is the order I would choose. And yeah, as Digi said, it will probably get harder to place the audios. I'll still give it a go, but so far they have been pretty definitive placements (except for the beginning when you start to include Cabin Fever and The Old Ways), I am not as good on the 'see where it feels like it should go' type of placement. |
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Post by kastoniago on Dec 11, 2016 16:36:06 GMT
Just displaying the UPDATED timeline based on the previous comments:
The Fourth Horseman *The Old Ways *Cabin Fever (flashback)
*Revelation
*Exodus
Genesis
Gone Away
Corn Dolly
Gone to the Angels
Garland's War
Starvation
Spoil of War
Law and Order
The Future Hour
Revenge
Something of Value
*Judges
*Esther
A Beginning
*Dark Rain
*Mother's Courage
*The Hunted
*Savages
*Cabin Fever (framing story)
*Contact
*Rescue
*Leaving
Birth of a Hope
Greater Love
Lights of London (Parts I and II)
Face of the Tiger
The Witch
A Friend in Need
By Bread Alone
The Chosen
Parasites
New Arrivals
Over the Hills
*For the Good of the Cause
*Collision
*Forgive and Forget
*The Second Coming
*New Blood
*Angel of Death
*Come the Horsemen
New World
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Post by eldersensorite on Apr 3, 2017 14:31:10 GMT
So, it sounds like Greg is still in Norway in episode 3 of Big Finish's series 6, so I think we can pretty safely place the series (or at least the first 3 episodes, assuming they are chronological within the set) between series 2 and 3 of the TV show. Episode 4 I think we'll have to wait for to be certain, but I'd imagine it follows on from the previous episode.
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Post by lidar on Apr 5, 2017 22:13:48 GMT
So, it sounds like Greg is still in Norway in episode 3 of Big Finish's series 6, so I think we can pretty safely place the series (or at least the first 3 episodes, assuming they are chronological within the set) between series 2 and 3 of the TV show. Episode 4 I think we'll have to wait for to be certain, but I'd imagine it follows on from the previous episode. Agreed, plus Jenny is still based at Whitecross according to the synopsis of her episode, which would also suggest pre-season 3 |
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Post by Digi on Apr 6, 2017 23:09:18 GMT
I suppose at some point I really ought to watch the TV series....shortly after listening to Big Finish's series 1, I bought the complete series DVD set but still haven't even made it as far as taking off the plastic wrap :lol:
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Post by tomstardis on May 1, 2017 14:33:10 GMT
I am working my way through the tv series and after the first series its hard work. It loses any tension and just becomes about the perils of baking bread and talking about baking bread. There's the occasionally good episode but on the whole series 2 and 3 aren't good at all. The more I watch, the more I just want to listen to the BF stuff.
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Post by Digi on May 6, 2017 22:24:35 GMT
I am working my way through the tv series and after the first series its hard work. It loses any tension and just becomes about the perils of baking bread and talking about baking bread. There's the occasionally good episode but on the whole series 2 and 3 aren't good at all. The more I watch, the more I just want to listen to the BF stuff. Interesting...Terry Nation left after the first series, didn't he? Must've had quite an influence on the show's early days, then. |
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Post by eldersensorite on May 6, 2017 23:20:02 GMT
I am working my way through the tv series and after the first series its hard work. It loses any tension and just becomes about the perils of baking bread and talking about baking bread. There's the occasionally good episode but on the whole series 2 and 3 aren't good at all. The more I watch, the more I just want to listen to the BF stuff. Interesting...Terry Nation left after the first series, didn't he? Must've had quite an influence on the show's early days, then. He did, and it did become a somewhat different show after series 1, dealing with more long-term sustainable survival and rebuilding civilization, but I still enjoy series 2 and the last few episodes of series 3 (although the rest of series 3 does drag a little) even though they don't deal with the short-term survival, which is arguably better TV. |
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Post by eldersensorite on Oct 31, 2017 14:23:02 GMT
The latest Vortex reveals that Legacy (7.2) is told in flashback, which explains how Greg is in the set, so we don't yet know where in the timeline those flashbacks will be, and the rest of the boxset is set after Series 3, as expected from the synopses.
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Post by kastoniago on Dec 23, 2017 0:46:18 GMT
Another UPDATED timeline to accommodate Box Set 6 and 7. However, I will note that I haven't listened to Box Set 6 and due to the episodic format it may be better slotted in between certain stories if it fits better. I've just gone for an arbitrary placement. So for those who have heard it, if you feel like it needs editing, feel free!
Also, if anyone has an idea where Greg's past-storyline from "Legacy" best fits in the Season 3 timeline, please pop that in too.
The Fourth Horseman
*The Old Ways
*Cabin Fever (flashback)
*Revelation
*Exodus
Genesis
Gone Away
Corn Dolly
Gone to the Angels
Garland's War
Starvation
Spoil of War
Law and Order
The Future Hour
Revenge
Something of Value
*Judges
*Esther
A Beginning
*Dark Rain
*Mother's Courage
*The Hunted
*Savages
*Cabin Fever (framing story)
*Contact
*Rescue
*Leaving
Birth of a Hope
Greater Love
Lights of London (Parts I and II)
Face of the Tiger
The Witch
A Friend in Need
By Bread Alone
The Chosen
Parasites
New Arrivals
Over the Hills
*For the Good of the Cause
*Collision
*Forgive and Forget
*The Second Coming
*New Blood
*Angel of Death
*Come the Horsemen
New World
*Beating the Bounds* *The Trapping Pit* *Revenge of Heaven* *Lockup*
Manhunt A Little Learning Law of the Jungle Mad Dog Bridgehead Reunion The Peacemaker Sparks The Enemy The Last Laugh Long Live the King Power
*Journey's End* *Legacy* *Old Friends* *Reconnection*
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Post by Digi on Dec 18, 2018 11:46:16 GMT
From the Series 8 release news article:So that's pretty solid confirmation that series 8 and 9 will be after the TV series, but suggests that series 7 should be revised back slightly - if it's just "Reconnection" that's past the end of the series? |
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Incorporates BF series 1 to 5, and goes up to the end of TV series 2. As BF series 6 (and presumably 7) is going to be set during TV series 3, but we don't know where, i've left that for now.
