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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 3, 2017 23:05:10 GMT
Well, it's complicated. Ray Stevens was his own grandpa. Many, many years ago when I was twenty-three I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red My father fell in love with her and soon they too were wed This made my dad my son-in-law and really changed my life For now my daughter was my mother, 'cause she was my father's wife And to complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad For if he were my uncle, then that also made him brother Of the widow's grownup daughter, who was of course my step-mother Father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son My wife is now my mother's mother and it makes me blue Because although she is my wife, she's my grandmother too Now if my wife is my grandmother, then I'm her grandchild And every time I think of it, it nearly drives me wild 'Cause now I have become the strangest 'case you ever saw As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa told you it was complicated. As far as Susan goes, does she call her grandfather, or grandmother if the doctor regenerates into a woman, or is it still her grandfather?
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Post by kimalysong on Feb 3, 2017 23:30:53 GMT
I am American. I am cool with a female Doctor. Would welcome a Doctor who wasn't white. But the Doctor always has to be British.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 3, 2017 23:43:36 GMT
Those folks from Gallifrey sure do have a rich British accent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 2:03:38 GMT
Ooh, I don't think we can do another Helen A in this day and age sadly. Not on broadcast television. I dunno, I think they did a fine job of satirizing at least the type of celebrity Trump is in Sherlock. I know it wasn't a direct satirization of him, but, to me at least, the resemblance was a eery. More realistically, though, I don't think it's too far out of the way to say we'll see some stories that directly criticize a lot of Trump's policies. The Immigration Ban, for instance, could be satirized pretty effectively. Or this wall we keep hearing about - I can just imagine what the Doctor'd have to say about that. The same thing Batman probably had to say about Superman when Abby was arrested for her relationship with the Swamp Thing. An unhealthy precedent and one that would actually leave the Earth defenceless at best and deliberately turn its own greatest champions against it at worst. The Doctor would consider it similar to Gallifrey's own ban on alien species, although I reckon Romana would be a lot more bitter about it considering how many lives it cost because of Darkel and people like her. Nope. I'm sure there are those who would be up in arms they did The Deadly Assassin nowadays because the corrupt, degenerate Time Lord society has a Lord President and a shadow organisation called the Celestial Intervention Agency (touch wood), but a caricature of a prominent foreign political figure would be a little too much. Besides, it's a bit beneath Who's talents, Thatcher was at least an interesting woman to satirise and it was taken to beautifully new territory by Graeme Curry who had it be about a very adult subject matter -- forced happiness. The other chap strikes me as a bit boring to write from, honestly. Boring? I think there's plenty of ways writers could satirise Donald Trump. Well, he's basically just every corporate executive you've ever seen. Scratch that, Tobias Vaughn is actually rather charming. relativetime has a point, his policies would be a lot more interesting to satirise, particularly given the Doctor's relative position to Earth; i.e. as a refugee and a fugitive from a now wartorn alien world. It's why I desperately wanted to see him in the same position that Doctors Without Borders would be in The Zygon Invasion, it was such a missed opportunity to show what happens to people who don't take sides in a war. They get the brunt of both ends.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 5:31:05 GMT
Those folks from Gallifrey sure do have a rich British accent. There's no such accent as British. Peter Capaldi's accent, for example is as close to, say, Colin Baker's RP-influenced accent as yours is, I'd wager.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 4, 2017 5:41:51 GMT
Those folks from Gallifrey sure do have a rich British accent. There's no such accent as British. Peter Capaldi's accent, for example is as close to, say, Colin Baker's RP-influenced accent as yours is, I'd wager. what's RP influenced? And if you ever watched Andy Griffith, then you're close to my accent. And trust me, cept for Australian, yall have a unique sound.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 6:30:10 GMT
There's no such accent as British. Peter Capaldi's accent, for example is as close to, say, Colin Baker's RP-influenced accent as yours is, I'd wager. what's RP influenced? And if you ever watched Andy Griffith, then you're close to my accent. And trust me, cept for Australian, yall have a unique sound. Received pronunciation, also known in some quarters as the Queen's English or BBC English. I hated my accent with a passion as a kid, so I did my best to try and model it after RP English. I've gotten pretty close too, managed to momentarily trick someone from North England into thinking I was from London or thereabouts. Look at it this way, a British accent is much like saying that someone from Boston sounds identical to someone who comes from Quebec or Mexico City. Oh, even us Australians have regional dialects. The multiculturalism here means that quite a number of people have differing accents from all over the world slip in, so there's a lot of variety even (or maybe especially) within a single city. I've been in a room with Russian, French, Belgian and Chinese accents and almost everybody understood one another because of the mix.
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Post by aztec on Feb 4, 2017 18:15:15 GMT
I am American. I am cool with a female Doctor. Would welcome a Doctor who wasn't white. But the Doctor always has to be British. What have you got against the Manx and Channel Islanders?
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Post by The Matt on Feb 4, 2017 19:32:25 GMT
Those folks from Gallifrey sure do have a rich British accent. There's no such accent as British. Peter Capaldi's accent, for example is as close to, say, Colin Baker's RP-influenced accent as yours is, I'd wager. No such accent as British? Rubbish, of course there is
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 1:01:02 GMT
No. There isn't. Does someone from Inverness sound like someone from Newcastle or someone from Essex? No. But they're all from Britain. There's RP, which is what Hollywood thinks a "British accent" is, but the UK is too broad a church to have one defining accent. There is no British accent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 1:51:17 GMT
There's no such accent as British. Peter Capaldi's accent, for example is as close to, say, Colin Baker's RP-influenced accent as yours is, I'd wager. No such accent as British? Rubbish, of course there is The British Isles isn't quite as homogeneous at it first appears in fiction. I think when people see a "British" accent what they're really thinking of is a RP English accent. Remember it's a collective union of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Britain isn't a country, so it's kind of like saying someone has a European accent, it doesn't make a great deal of sense. A lot of those countries have worked very hard from a historical perspective to be different from one another and depending person, saying that the Welsh/Irish/Scottish/English and the English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh are the basically the same thing could get you into some really serious trouble (i.e. a punch in the face).
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Post by The Matt on Feb 5, 2017 16:04:18 GMT
How odd! It would appear that I apparently don't know my own accent anymore....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 0:32:56 GMT
How odd! It would appear that I apparently don't know my own accent anymore.... Not really. Ian Paisley considered himself British... do you have the same accent as him?!
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 6, 2017 3:41:04 GMT
How odd! It would appear that I apparently don't know my own accent anymore.... That's ok, I'm just happy I sound like Colin Baker, though, I don't think he would think so, I heard he's huge on pronounciation, and I cant spell it with spellcheck. I always thought I sounded like Jim Varney doin Earnest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 4:57:44 GMT
How odd! It would appear that I apparently don't know my own accent anymore.... Oh, dear. That sounds terribly awkward, I'm sorry. It sounds like a very interesting thing to find out. Maybe it's RP English?
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Post by The Matt on Feb 6, 2017 18:23:45 GMT
Nope, just a normal British accent
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 6, 2017 20:49:47 GMT
Nope, just a normal British accent You don't sound British. Do I sound southern?
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 6, 2017 20:54:20 GMT
Those folks from Gallifrey sure do have a rich British accent. There's no such accent as British. Peter Capaldi's accent, for example is as close to, say, Colin Baker's RP-influenced accent as yours is, I'd wager. I'm pretty sure there are just lots of different British accents.
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Post by aztec on Feb 6, 2017 21:02:08 GMT
No such accent as British? Rubbish, of course there is The British Isles isn't quite as homogeneous at it first appears in fiction. I think when people see a "British" accent what they're really thinking of is a RP English accent. Remember it's a collective union of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Britain isn't a country, so it's kind of like saying someone has a European accent, it doesn't make a great deal of sense. A lot of those countries have worked very hard from a historical perspective to be different from one another and depending person, saying that the Welsh/Irish/Scottish/English and the English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh are the basically the same thing could get you into some really serious trouble (i.e. a punch in the face). I remember watching a Documentary series about the British Overseas territories and Crown Dependencies last year (can't remember the title) and in one of the episodes the presenter took a tour round the Channel Islands, one of the people she met was a born and raised local and his accent sounded like a mix of South African and French. If there was a single unified British Accent that would be quite weird as I sometimes struggle with the broader Ulster or Scottish accents, kinda embarrassing to be told you can't understand your own accent!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 21:51:52 GMT
Nope, just a normal British accent I am not going to argue with you, but there really is no such thing as a "normal British" accent. To outsiders you might sound English, Welsh or Scottish, (for Americans, British usually means English) but to other British people you will generally sound like whatever dialect you have... every region of the UK talks with a different accent. Within England alone, a Cockney can recognise a Scouser by his accent and a Geordie recognises a Brummie by his accent, while someone from Bristol and the SW will sound different again. Plus, a well educated person might speak with RP. So what one of those is normal? As none of them sound the same to me!
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