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Post by constonks on Mar 10, 2017 18:00:15 GMT
EDIT: By companion, I mean long-term. Think Jamie, Tegan, Martha, not Menzies, Christina de Souza, Wilf, etc. If that changes your vote, change it.
Now that Big Finish is doing some more Ninth Doctor stories, I was wondering what everyone thought about the potential expansion of the Ninth Doctor's era to include companions before Rose.
Do you think there should be companions between TDOTD and Rose or is Rose the first companion the Doctor met after the Time War?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 10, 2017 18:10:08 GMT
I don't think giving him a pre-Rose companion would fit with the Doctor's character at the beginning of Series 1. Given their knack for opening up gaps in eras, I'm sure Big Finish could find a a later opportunity to insert another companion (Just do it Key2Time trilogy-style and just have him separated from Rose temporarily for example)
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2017 18:11:52 GMT
I don't mind either way, although in my head the Ninth Doctor had more 'Specials' type of adventures with one-off companions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 18:32:48 GMT
I've never really thought about it but I always got the feeling that Rose was the 9th Doctor's first companion...
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Post by Digi on Mar 10, 2017 18:37:48 GMT
Nine seems to be seeing himself/his new face in the mirror for the first time in "Rose". Be a bit strange if he had a whole slew of adventures without even knowing what he looks like.
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Post by constonks on Mar 10, 2017 18:48:02 GMT
Nine seems to be seeing himself/his new face in the mirror for the first time in "Rose". Be a bit strange if he had a whole slew of adventures without even knowing what he looks like. Well, Russell wrote that line AND told Doctor Who Magazine they could show the regeneration BEFORE the Time War. And I'm pretty sure he's even said something along the lines of "You'd say that all the time when you looked in the mirror if you had ears like that."
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Post by ollychops on Mar 10, 2017 18:58:37 GMT
Hm... I don't think I'm into the idea for a companion before Rose - one-off companions, sure, that works. Definitely not a long-term companion, though. I like the idea that Rose is Nine's first long-term companion.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2017 19:24:31 GMT
Nine seems to be seeing himself/his new face in the mirror for the first time in "Rose". Be a bit strange if he had a whole slew of adventures without even knowing what he looks like. Depends if he ever finds himself near a mirror.
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 10, 2017 19:45:20 GMT
Just one-offs, brief encounters and the like. One fanjodrelly Idea I had was that he bumped into the Master on the Titanic (from Mastermind) and neither knew who each other were, together they defeated an alien menace eventually leading to Nine clinging to that Iceberg.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 22:18:09 GMT
For me it always seemed like Rose was Nine's first companion. It felt like this was him reaching out and trying to achieve friendship in a way his incarnation thought might not be possible after his actions in the Time War.
One idea might be to show him having various one-off companions in each adventure, like Ten did during the post-Donna specials. Nine and his new acquaintance work together to defeat the menace but at adventure's end he doesn't feel able to open up his hearts and let anyone in yet... and then Rose!
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 10, 2017 22:22:25 GMT
Well this is curious, most people saying 9 shouldn't have a pre Rose companion have no trouble with the one-off style of companion 10 had in the specials. Are these not companions? I think they are. And more of a companion than Kamelion for instance! So you either need to change the questions or everyone needs to change their answer.
IE Do you think there should be a pre-Rose long-term companion for Eccleston?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2017 22:31:51 GMT
I don't count them as companions. Why would you?
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Post by relativetime on Mar 10, 2017 22:39:57 GMT
If there is a companion before Rose, then I think the only way to keep the Ninth Doctor the way he is before Series 1 would be to have it all end in tragedy. Maybe he just starts to feel like his old self again, only for some effect from the Time War or some other monster to put a swift end to his new companion. Or maybe just a long series of one-off companions who want to travel with him, but for one reason or another end up leaving him at the end of the story. Lots of possibilities.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2017 22:45:16 GMT
If there is a companion before Rose, then I think the only way to keep the Ninth Doctor the way he is before Series 1 would be to have it all end in tragedy. Maybe he just starts to feel like his old self again, only for some effect from the Time War or some other monster to put a swift end to his new companion. Or maybe just a long series of one-off companions who want to travel with him, but for one reason or another end up leaving him at the end of the story. Lots of possibilities. Maybe he meets a Clara splinter and the Nightmare Child eats her?
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Post by relativetime on Mar 10, 2017 22:52:51 GMT
If there is a companion before Rose, then I think the only way to keep the Ninth Doctor the way he is before Series 1 would be to have it all end in tragedy. Maybe he just starts to feel like his old self again, only for some effect from the Time War or some other monster to put a swift end to his new companion. Or maybe just a long series of one-off companions who want to travel with him, but for one reason or another end up leaving him at the end of the story. Lots of possibilities. Maybe he meets a Clara splinter and the Nightmare Child eats her? There's an idea! If Big Finish can get a box set with Jenna Coleman (assuming they haven't already) then I'd be very interested in some adventures following the Clara splinters and their encounters with the Doctor.
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Post by xlozdob on Mar 10, 2017 22:53:37 GMT
Like many have already said, I'd be okay with one-off companions. That said, I always felt he could've had one long-ish-term companion, who didn't quite manage to do what Rose did for him, either because he wasn't ready to soften yet, because they weren't the right sort of influence Rose was (maybe someone whose views aligned more with this harsher, war-torn Doctor, so didn't push him to change) or because they just didn't manage that level of connection. Would be pretty tragic as well if they died.
Also, it'd be really interesting seeing (well, more like, listening to) Benny and 9 together.
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Post by Bazoolium on Mar 10, 2017 23:05:08 GMT
I would vote no.
It's like Peri. I like her with the 5th Doctor, but all her BF adventures deminish the end of Androzani.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2017 23:13:14 GMT
Maybe he meets a Clara splinter and the Nightmare Child eats her? There's an idea! If Big Finish can get a box set with Jenna Coleman (assuming they haven't already) then I'd be very interested in some adventures following the Clara splinters and their encounters with the Doctor. Yeah, a Clara box set would be fantastic.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 10, 2017 23:51:44 GMT
I don't count them as companions. Why would you? Why would I not? They fulfill all the points of a companion in their first episode. The fact that they they'd have a second one, or in some cases we never saw a second one, means nothing. I'd argue that the Doctor's attitude to them is part of their Companionhood, so Adelaide Brooke was a possibility but she didn't allow it, and Christina de Souza wasn't because the Doctor didn't allow it, but Wilf definitely is and I cannot see how Jackson Lake is any less of a companion than Mickey Smith or Jack Harkness. If it was merely travelling in the TARDIS then there are (a) plenty more companions and (b) plenty who weren't, like the Brig. One-off companions are still companions
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Mar 11, 2017 0:07:43 GMT
Just one-offs, brief encounters and the like. One fanjodrelly Idea I had was that he bumped into the Master on the Titanic (from Mastermind) and neither knew who each other were, together they defeated an alien menace eventually leading to Nine clinging to that Iceberg. keep going, I like that idea.
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