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Post by mbt66 on Apr 23, 2017 8:53:28 GMT
Actually I'd be seeding odd events and occurrences throughout the lives of the first 8 Doctors and their releases that later could be dealt with as being effects of the Time War in a special release, even if it was Ten doing the discovering. His equivalent of UXB. That would make a great box set release in the same mold as "Classic Doctors : New Monsters" With Doctors Four, Five, Six and Seven. What should it be called? Perhaps... Classis Doctors : Echoes of War
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Post by mbt66 on Apr 23, 2017 9:35:38 GMT
I would have no problem if Big Finish cast a younger War Doctor to chronicle his early battles just after his regeneration. Although I am not keen on the idea of recasting the War Doctor a younger version would make sense and be easier to accept, however I would much rather the Eighth Doctor have those stories. What I am keen for is the continuation of the story Big Finish have already started. Finding out what happens to Ollistra and with Leela. I do expect War Doctor Chronicles in time, but how about this for a wacky notion... The Doctor of PortentFollowing his actions at the end of The Enigma Dimension and the following adventure (that would be narrated later in flashback) Cardinal Ollistra decides that the War Doctor has become too loose a canon and decides that they maybe better off with the Doctor's next incarnation. The Timelords have already created a process where they can extract a potential future incarnation of a Timelord whilst the current version is unharmed - someone who could be sent on suicidal missions or allow a Timelord to be in two places at the same time. Ollistra herself may have had this done in the past. These new incarnations are called Portents (potential regenerations), unlike the source Timelord they do not have the ability to regenerate. They are one and done! Although the council are happy for the Doctor to be forced to regenerate in the usual way Ollistra opts to incarcerate the War Doctor after extracting his Portent. This new Doctor simply believes he has regenerated and continues the war effort. It is only later that they work out what has happened and releases their true self - the War Doctor. The Doctor of Portent dies in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 3:05:53 GMT
I would have no problem if Big Finish cast a younger War Doctor to chronicle his early battles just after his regeneration. Although I am not keen on the idea of recasting the War Doctor a younger version would make sense and be easier to accept, however I would much rather the Eighth Doctor have those stories. What I am keen for is the continuation of the story Big Finish have already started. Finding out what happens to Ollistra and with Leela. I do expect War Doctor Chronicles in time, but how about this for a wacky notion... The Doctor of PortentFollowing his actions at the end of The Enigma Dimension and the following adventure (that would be narrated later in flashback) Cardinal Ollistra decides that the War Doctor has become too loose a canon and decides that they maybe better off with the Doctor's next incarnation. The Timelords have already created a process where they can extract a potential future incarnation of a Timelord whilst the current version is unharmed - someone who could be sent on suicidal missions or allow a Timelord to be in two places at the same time. Ollistra herself may have had this done in the past. These new incarnations are called Portents (potential regenerations), unlike the source Timelord they do not have the ability to regenerate. They are one and done! Although the council are happy for the Doctor to be forced to regenerate in the usual way Ollistra opts to incarcerate the War Doctor after extracting his Portent. This new Doctor simply believes he has regenerated and continues the war effort. It is only later that they work out what has happened and releases their true self - the War Doctor. The Doctor of Portent dies in the process.
It's an intresting idea, but I highly doubt the BBC would let Big Finish effectivily cast a new Doctor
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 24, 2017 11:02:17 GMT
When they get the rights to the 12th Doctor, I'd like to see Grant/The Ghost somehow be accidentally transported to the Time War. Let's see a hero try to be a 'hero' during a tragic war where even The Doctor can't see himself as one.
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Post by tardybox on Apr 24, 2017 12:38:20 GMT
I would have no problem if Big Finish cast a younger War Doctor to chronicle his early battles just after his regeneration. Although I am not keen on the idea of recasting the War Doctor a younger version would make sense and be easier to accept, however I would much rather the Eighth Doctor have those stories. What I am keen for is the continuation of the story Big Finish have already started. Finding out what happens to Ollistra and with Leela. I do expect War Doctor Chronicles in time, but how about this for a wacky notion... The Doctor of PortentFollowing his actions at the end of The Enigma Dimension and the following adventure (that would be narrated later in flashback) Cardinal Ollistra decides that the War Doctor has become too loose a canon and decides that they maybe better off with the Doctor's next incarnation. The Timelords have already created a process where they can extract a potential future incarnation of a Timelord whilst the current version is unharmed - someone who could be sent on suicidal missions or allow a Timelord to be in two places at the same time. Ollistra herself may have had this done in the past. These new incarnations are called Portents (potential regenerations), unlike the source Timelord they do not have the ability to regenerate. They are one and done! Although the council are happy for the Doctor to be forced to regenerate in the usual way Ollistra opts to incarcerate the War Doctor after extracting his Portent. This new Doctor simply believes he has regenerated and continues the war effort. It is only later that they work out what has happened and releases their true self - the War Doctor. The Doctor of Portent dies in the process. Ooh... Or what if this Doctor of Portent wound up becoming the Valeyard?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 16:03:59 GMT
When they get the rights to the 12th Doctor, I'd like to see Grant/The Ghost somehow be accidentally transported to the Time War. Let's see a hero try to be a 'hero' during a tragic war where even The Doctor can't see himself as one. I'd like to see him transported to the heart of a supernova and killed instantly. The story can then get on with decent characters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 16:05:05 GMT
When they get the rights to the 12th Doctor, I'd like to see Grant/The Ghost somehow be accidentally transported to the Time War. Let's see a hero try to be a 'hero' during a tragic war where even The Doctor can't see himself as one. I'd like to see him transported to the heart of a supernova and killed instantly. The story can then get on with decent characters. Hey, I've been demoted. I used to be the fourth doctor!!!! Now I'm a chancellory guard.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 24, 2017 17:12:21 GMT
When they get the rights to the 12th Doctor, I'd like to see Grant/The Ghost somehow be accidentally transported to the Time War. Let's see a hero try to be a 'hero' during a tragic war where even The Doctor can't see himself as one. I'd like to see him transported to the heart of a supernova and killed instantly. The story can then get on with decent characters. Each to their own. I think Grant/The Ghost is a great character and I think an exploration of what it means to be a superhero would be interesting, if perhaps bearing the danger of veering too close to the War Doctor's character arc. I'm imagining a dramatic moment in my head where The Ghost removes his superhero costume in the middle of the battlefield and becomes Grant only, signifying that he is just a normal person stuck in the middle of a devastating war. Not even a superhero can save the Time Lords. Of course, this would be difficult to show on audio but I believe with a good performance by Justin Chatwin the tragedy behind The Ghost being insignificant in the context of the Time War could be conveyed to the audience if written well.
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Post by mbt66 on May 13, 2017 11:15:01 GMT
I had really great idea for something that could happen in the Time War. There's a planet where exiled Time Lords (forced exile or self imposed, it doesn't really matter) are living on, and they are occupied by Weeping Angels. It's the perfect opportunity for them, as Time Lords are much tastier than races with shorter life spans and there could be ambiguity about whether the Time Lord being spoken to has already been sent back in time. The Angels can do more with a Time Lord population than any other. With the Time War affecting the laws of time, paradoxes wouldn't be so much of an issue. It'd explore more with the Angels, specifically them being in charge as previous stories have had them as scavengers, too weak to do anything or just too few in number to be an end of the world threat. The main conflict would arise with the Doctor arriving on this planet and the Angels scheming to get to Gallifrey. Could the Weeping Angels have been created by the Time Lords? Being quantum locked and feeding on time paradoxes sounds like something that could have happened during the Time War. The Time Lords could have developing either a weapon or, like my idea of putting worlds on ice, their good intentions go wrong when they try to save a peaceful intellectual race they turn them into deadly killers.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 11:18:41 GMT
I had really great idea for something that could happen in the Time War. There's a planet where exiled Time Lords (forced exile or self imposed, it doesn't really matter) are living on, and they are occupied by Weeping Angels. It's the perfect opportunity for them, as Time Lords are much tastier than races with shorter life spans and there could be ambiguity about whether the Time Lord being spoken to has already been sent back in time. The Angels can do more with a Time Lord population than any other. With the Time War affecting the laws of time, paradoxes wouldn't be so much of an issue. It'd explore more with the Angels, specifically them being in charge as previous stories have had them as scavengers, too weak to do anything or just too few in number to be an end of the world threat. The main conflict would arise with the Doctor arriving on this planet and the Angels scheming to get to Gallifrey. Could the Weeping Angels have been created by the Time Lords? Being quantum locked and feeding on time paradoxes sounds like something that could have happened during the Time War. The Time Lords could have developing either a weapon or, like my idea of putting worlds on ice, their good intentions go wrong when they try to save a peaceful intellectual race they turn them into deadly killers. Alien Bodies has a weapon that takes control of architecture and turns it against its target (e.g. it could wall you inside a room and starve you to death), so I got a really strong impression that they were a really successful attempt at creating a discreet coterie of assassins. Maybe their legendary status was because they were from Rassilon's time?
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Post by Ela on May 14, 2017 6:13:23 GMT
I had really great idea for something that could happen in the Time War. There's a planet where exiled Time Lords (forced exile or self imposed, it doesn't really matter) are living on, and they are occupied by Weeping Angels. It's the perfect opportunity for them, as Time Lords are much tastier than races with shorter life spans and there could be ambiguity about whether the Time Lord being spoken to has already been sent back in time. The Angels can do more with a Time Lord population than any other. With the Time War affecting the laws of time, paradoxes wouldn't be so much of an issue. It'd explore more with the Angels, specifically them being in charge as previous stories have had them as scavengers, too weak to do anything or just too few in number to be an end of the world threat. The main conflict would arise with the Doctor arriving on this planet and the Angels scheming to get to Gallifrey. Could the Weeping Angels have been created by the Time Lords? Being quantum locked and feeding on time paradoxes sounds like something that could have happened during the Time War. The Time Lords could have developing either a weapon or, like my idea of putting worlds on ice, their good intentions go wrong when they try to save a peaceful intellectual race they turn them into deadly killers. What's said about the Weeping Angels in the series indicates they've been around since the dawn of time. So I'd say no, they weren't created by the Time Lords. Doesn't ring true to me.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 15, 2017 11:30:37 GMT
Could the Weeping Angels have been created by the Time Lords? Being quantum locked and feeding on time paradoxes sounds like something that could have happened during the Time War. The Time Lords could have developing either a weapon or, like my idea of putting worlds on ice, their good intentions go wrong when they try to save a peaceful intellectual race they turn them into deadly killers. What's said about the Weeping Angels in the series indicates they've been around since the dawn of time. So I'd say no, they weren't created by the Time Lords. Doesn't ring true to me. The Titan comics mention them as being legendary creatures, so yeah, they definitely seem like they came from The Dark Times
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Post by sherlock on May 15, 2017 11:39:07 GMT
What's said about the Weeping Angels in the series indicates they've been around since the dawn of time. So I'd say no, they weren't created by the Time Lords. Doesn't ring true to me. The Titan comics mention them as being legendary creatures, so yeah, they definitely seem like they came from The Dark Times Surely it's possible they were made in the Time War and then sent back in time to the Dark Times? The Time Lords do something in the Time War that inadvertently creates the Weeping Angels. In an attempt to rectify this they end up sending them back in Time to the Dark Times where they are presumably encountered by ancient Time Lords. Considering the nature of the Angels having their creation be something of a pre-destination paradox would be quite fitting.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 13:10:51 GMT
The Titan comics mention them as being legendary creatures, so yeah, they definitely seem like they came from The Dark Times Surely it's possible they were made in the Time War and then sent back in time to the Dark Times? The Time Lords do something in the Time War that inadvertently creates the Weeping Angels. In an attempt to rectify this they end up sending them back in Time to the Dark Times where they are presumably encountered by ancient Time Lords. Considering the nature of the Angels having their creation be something of a pre-destination paradox would be quite fitting. Another point to raise is which time war? The conflict with the Yssgaroth, the mass extermination of the Charon, the retaliatory conflict with the Order of the Black Sun, the civil war that resulted from Morbius's original attempts at galactic conquest, the War in Heaven with the mysterious Enemy... Aside from the Last Great Time War, there's quite a number of scenarios where these creatures could have originated from.
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Post by Ela on May 15, 2017 14:35:34 GMT
The Titan comics mention them as being legendary creatures, so yeah, they definitely seem like they came from The Dark Times Surely it's possible they were made in the Time War and then sent back in time to the Dark Times? The Time Lords do something in the Time War that inadvertently creates the Weeping Angels. In an attempt to rectify this they end up sending them back in Time to the Dark Times where they are presumably encountered by ancient Time Lords. Considering the nature of the Angels having their creation be something of a pre-destination paradox would be quite fitting. Guess it depends on how convoluted you want to get with time lines. But, yeah, I still don't buy that one.
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Post by elkawho on May 17, 2017 1:29:21 GMT
I want to know how the Time War affected Romana, Brax and Narvin, how Leela ended up in that situation, how affected Susan: did she left Earth? , what happened to the Rani (if the Time Lords recussitated the Master to fight would they also bring in the Rani for her scientific knowledge? Maybe have her devise weapons against the Daleks. And what about the Eleven? Is he still alive when the war starts? Maybe The Rani created The Moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 1:39:54 GMT
I want to know how the Time War affected Romana, Brax and Narvin, how Leela ended up in that situation, how affected Susan: did she left Earth? , what happened to the Rani (if the Time Lords recussitated the Master to fight would they also bring in the Rani for her scientific knowledge? Maybe have her devise weapons against the Daleks. And what about the Eleven? Is he still alive when the war starts? Maybe The Rani created The Moment.
It's been a long time since I've seen The Day of The Doctor, but isn't where The Momment housed in The Omega archive? To me, it kind of implies the weapons were created unwittingly by Rasilon and Omega while they were trying to master time travel.
If I'm wrong, I kind of like The Momment's interface popping u pand going: "Yeah, no, Mum." and The Rani getting aggrevated trying to bring her creation to heel.
the Omega archive? I
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Post by omega on May 17, 2017 1:49:16 GMT
Could the Weeping Angels have been created by the Time Lords? Being quantum locked and feeding on time paradoxes sounds like something that could have happened during the Time War. The Time Lords could have developing either a weapon or, like my idea of putting worlds on ice, their good intentions go wrong when they try to save a peaceful intellectual race they turn them into deadly killers. Alien Bodies has a weapon that takes control of architecture and turns it against its target (e.g. it could wall you inside a room and starve you to death), so I got a really strong impression that they were a really successful attempt at creating a discreet coterie of assassins. Maybe their legendary status was because they were from Rassilon's time? Anarchitecture I believe.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 2:51:21 GMT
Alien Bodies has a weapon that takes control of architecture and turns it against its target (e.g. it could wall you inside a room and starve you to death), so I got a really strong impression that they were a really successful attempt at creating a discreet coterie of assassins. Maybe their legendary status was because they were from Rassilon's time? Anarchitecture I believe. That's the one.
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Post by bobod on May 17, 2017 9:39:21 GMT
Maybe The Rani created The Moment.
It's been a long time since I've seen The Day of The Doctor, but isn't where The Momment housed in The Omega archive? To me, it kind of implies the weapons were created unwittingly by Rasilon and Omega while they were trying to master time travel.
If I'm wrong, I kind of like The Momment's interface popping u pand going: "Yeah, no, Mum." and The Rani getting aggrevated trying to bring her creation to heel.
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The Black Archive
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