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Post by mark687 on Mar 20, 2021 16:24:58 GMT
This Weeks Live www.bigfinish.com/podcasts/v/2021-03-21-torchwood-doomsdayBehind the scenes on the Lost stories Return of the Cybermen (sound Design) and Doomsday Contract From the E-mails Praise Return of the Cybermen, Sadie Miler and Christopher Naylor There was an approach made to John Lucarotti's Estate to adapt his original draft for Ark in Space for the Lost Stories Range but terms could not be reached, in regards to the original drafts of Pyramids of Mars and Brain of Morbius how much exists or if their just urban myth is not clear. Bits and Bobs TW MR Lease of Life due out this coming week. When Live this Weeks RAN Offer (25% Off CD/DL) will be DW MR No 220 Quicksliver Regards mark687
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Post by grinch on Mar 20, 2021 17:07:07 GMT
It does make me wonder what the future of the Lost Stories range will be going forwards.
I suspect they’ll probably start adapting proposed scripts from the Revived Series.
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Post by x2magneto on Mar 20, 2021 23:29:53 GMT
Could have used a Master! 15 minute drama tease.
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 21, 2021 13:08:53 GMT
It does make me wonder what the future of the Lost Stories range will be going forwards. I suspect they’ll probably start adapting proposed scripts from the Revived Series. oh there are heaps of Lost Stories that could be adapted
Fifth Doctor: The Six Doctors by Robert Holmes (Completely Possible as there are heaps of details on it on The 25th Anniversary DVD of The Five Doctors)
Sixth Doctor: Yellow Fever by Robert Holmes (Despite what Nick Briggs claims there is an actual Three Episode outline does exist it features The Autons, The Master (not The Rani as at the time Kate o Mara was doing Dynasty) and The Brigadier (surprisingly Benton also features despite him being retired by Mawdryn Undead) just ask Ian Levine
Seventh Doctor: The Dark Dimension by Adrian Rigelsford (Obvious choice but there are many factors against it so its unlikely to ever happen)
Lungbarrow by Marc Platt (Initially a script that got replaced by Ghost Light and later novelized unlikely to happen due to Marc Platt not in favor of its adaptation unlikely to happen sadly)
Tenth Doctor: Century House by Tom Mcrae (a complete script but kinda seems redudant now that No Place is basically almost a remake of it)
The 1920s by Steven Fry (a complete script exists but Steven Fry doesnt know where he put it)
The Suicide Exhibition by Mark Gattis (complete script with 10 and Donna yep can definetly see it happening)
Eleventh Doctor: Death To The Doctor by Gareth Roberts (a draft script but unlikely to ever happen)
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Post by cwm on Mar 21, 2021 13:24:10 GMT
BF have been very clear that there simply isn't enough of Yellow Fever to justify an adaptation. And I trust them over Levine.
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Post by muddyviolet on Mar 21, 2021 13:44:48 GMT
BF have been very clear that there simply isn't enough of Yellow Fever to justify an adaptation. And I trust them over Levine. Plus the name Yellow Fever and the fact it was set in Hong Kong could make it seem a bit too Covid related for it to be considered tasteful.
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Post by grinch on Mar 21, 2021 16:29:00 GMT
Considering that Mark Gatiss has and continues to do projects with Big Finish, I could quite easily see The Suicide Exhibition being adapted as a part of the Lost Stories range.
I’d imagine the title would be probably be changed though.
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 22, 2021 14:00:49 GMT
Considering that Mark Gatiss has and continues to do projects with Big Finish, I could quite easily see The Suicide Exhibition being adapted as a part of the Lost Stories range. I’d imagine the title would be probably be changed though. Why there is nothing wrong with the title
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Post by grinch on Mar 22, 2021 14:03:36 GMT
Considering that Mark Gatiss has and continues to do projects with Big Finish, I could quite easily see The Suicide Exhibition being adapted as a part of the Lost Stories range. I’d imagine the title would be probably be changed though. Why there is nothing wrong with the title Personally, I don’t have an issue with it but I could see Big Finish possibly be reluctant to use the word ‘Suicide’ on one of their boxsets.
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Post by number13 on Mar 22, 2021 15:09:32 GMT
BF have been very clear that there simply isn't enough of Yellow Fever to justify an adaptation. And I trust them over Levine. Agree, according to Richard Molesworth's excellent book 'Robert Holmes: A Life In Words', "not a single word had been committed to paper" when the story and season 23 (and the show, temporarily!) was cancelled.
It seemed at "exist" only as a 'shopping list' of characters and locations suggested by JN-T and a section of a letter from him is quoted in the book making this very clear.
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 23, 2021 13:10:12 GMT
Why there is nothing wrong with the title Personally, I don’t have an issue with it but I could see Big Finish possibly be reluctant to use the word ‘Suicide’ on one of their boxsets. That would be pathetic if they did an adaption and changed the name i mean Warner Bros are using The Suicide Squad title for their upcoming DC Film and no one would bat an eyelid
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 23, 2021 13:11:50 GMT
BF have been very clear that there simply isn't enough of Yellow Fever to justify an adaptation. And I trust them over Levine. Agree, according to Richard Molesworth's excellent book 'Robert Holmes: A Life In Words', "not a single word had been committed to paper" when the story and season 23 (and the show, temporarily!) was cancelled.
It seemed at "exist" only as a 'shopping list' of characters and locations suggested by JN-T and a section of a letter from him is quoted in the book making this very clear.
Well The outline for Episode 1 of Yellow Fever was photocopied to Ian from Eric Saward himself. if Ian showed Big Finish the outline he could prove its existance
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Post by shutupbanks on Mar 23, 2021 22:27:14 GMT
Agree, according to Richard Molesworth's excellent book 'Robert Holmes: A Life In Words', "not a single word had been committed to paper" when the story and season 23 (and the show, temporarily!) was cancelled.
It seemed at "exist" only as a 'shopping list' of characters and locations suggested by JN-T and a section of a letter from him is quoted in the book making this very clear.
Well The outline for Episode 1 of Yellow Fever was photocopied to Ian from Eric Saward himself. if Ian showed Big Finish the outline he could prove its existance An outline for one episode (making it a quarter or a third of an entire story based on standard classic Who) isn’t really enough to build a recording on to genuinely call it a Robert Holmes “story.” Or even a story.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 23, 2021 23:32:53 GMT
It does make me wonder what the future of the Lost Stories range will be going forwards. I suspect they’ll probably start adapting proposed scripts from the Revived Series. oh there are heaps of Lost Stories that could be adapted
Fifth Doctor: The Six Doctors by Robert Holmes (Completely Possible as there are heaps of details on it on The 25th Anniversary DVD of The Five Doctors)
Sixth Doctor: Yellow Fever by Robert Holmes (Despite what Nick Briggs claims there is an actual Three Episode outline does exist it features The Autons, The Master (not The Rani as at the time Kate o Mara was doing Dynasty) and The Brigadier (surprisingly Benton also features despite him being retired by Mawdryn Undead) just ask Ian Levine
Seventh Doctor: The Dark Dimension by Adrian Rigelsford (Obvious choice but there are many factors against it so its unlikely to ever happen)
Lungbarrow by Marc Platt (Initially a script that got replaced by Ghost Light and later novelized unlikely to happen due to Marc Platt not in favor of its adaptation unlikely to happen sadly)
Tenth Doctor: Century House by Tom Mcrae (a complete script but kinda seems redudant now that No Place is basically almost a remake of it)
The 1920s by Steven Fry (a complete script exists but Steven Fry doesnt know where he put it)
The Suicide Exhibition by Mark Gattis (complete script with 10 and Donna yep can definetly see it happening)
Eleventh Doctor: Death To The Doctor by Gareth Roberts (a draft script but unlikely to ever happen)
On Ian Briggs Whosround he talks about his first storyline, a very traditional story that he refers to as the rebel story. Maybe that's a possibility?
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Post by number13 on Mar 25, 2021 2:32:18 GMT
Agree, according to Richard Molesworth's excellent book 'Robert Holmes: A Life In Words', "not a single word had been committed to paper" when the story and season 23 (and the show, temporarily!) was cancelled.
It seemed at "exist" only as a 'shopping list' of characters and locations suggested by JN-T and a section of a letter from him is quoted in the book making this very clear.
Well The outline for Episode 1 of Yellow Fever was photocopied to Ian from Eric Saward himself. if Ian showed Big Finish the outline he could prove its existance A Robert Holmes storyline (even for one single episode, either from the originally mooted 3x45 min "version" or the 6x25 later "version") would be well worth reading, judging by his entertaining storyline for 'The Time Warrior'!
Or much less excitingly, perhaps what exists is just JN-T's outline for the opening sequence plus his 'shopping list' of things he wanted in the story? He described those in later years including to DWM I think.
At this distance in time, I doubt anyone would mind if the document was posted online and that would settle it.
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Post by cwm on Mar 25, 2021 9:56:11 GMT
IIRC Levine has *said* he has a storyline but has never been able to locate it, or something along those lines. The evidence available weighs very, very strongly in favour of there never having been any real work done on it at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 11:13:53 GMT
IIRC Levine has *said* he has a storyline but has never been able to locate it, or something along those lines. The evidence available weighs very, very strongly in favour of there never having been any real work done on it at all. That's what I've understood for years too, pretty much. It's been covered in DWM, the DWAS Bulletin and with people much more in the know like Richard Bignell and still nothing has ever turned up. I think it's an Occam's Razor really - the obvious reason why is there's nothing to turn up, as you say. Levine is...hmm...I don't like to talk too negatively about people who aren't on the forum to answer back but he's been prone over the years to quite strong exaggeration and unless he has evidence ceased to be considered much of a source of quantifiable info a long time ago.
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 25, 2021 11:50:34 GMT
IIRC Levine has *said* he has a storyline but has never been able to locate it, or something along those lines. The evidence available weighs very, very strongly in favour of there never having been any real work done on it at all. He mentioned its somewhere in his shed. hopefully Big Finish could atleast ask him and they could make an offer to get it unearthed and see what could be done with the outline
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Post by number13 on Mar 25, 2021 12:11:56 GMT
Well The outline for Episode 1 of Yellow Fever was photocopied to Ian from Eric Saward himself. if Ian showed Big Finish the outline he could prove its existance An outline for one episode (making it a quarter or a third of an entire story based on standard classic Who) isn’t really enough to build a recording on to genuinely call it a Robert Holmes “story.” Or even a story. I'm not so sure, there are precedents...
PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE with BELA LUGOSI
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 12:24:13 GMT
An outline for one episode (making it a quarter or a third of an entire story based on standard classic Who) isn’t really enough to build a recording on to genuinely call it a Robert Holmes “story.” Or even a story. I'm not so sure, there are precedents...
PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE with BELA LUGOSI
To be fair Ed Wood used Bela so oddly even when he did have him full time that it doesn't even seem jarring in Plan 9. The "PULL DE STRING" chant over stock footage, the wonderful "Home? I have no home..." speech which starts legit touching then quickly becomes about atomic supermen and world domination..wonderfully off the wall.
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