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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 10, 2024 17:17:34 GMT
Peter Purves has been rather vocal in the past about not wanting to perform opposite a Hartnell impersonator I really can't see why they dropped him (and Fraser Hines as the second Doctor), particularly after the fantastic "Daughter of the Gods"
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Post by bonehead on Feb 10, 2024 17:29:34 GMT
I like this development for the Chronicles. Perhaps they'll be performed stories but with only a couple of actors? It'll be interesting to find out. I like Stephen Noonan very much, and the issue I have with Michael Troughton (at least from the first 2DA set) is that his performance seemed in a kind of 'limbo' compared with the rest of the cast. Perhaps with just him and, say Wendy Padbury, it'll work better.
As for Peter Purves not wanting to work with a Hartnell impersonator, that's a shame, but I can understand it. Perhaps he'll reconsider. I hope so. Steven has really had a new lease of life with Big Finish. It'd be nice to se that continue.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 10, 2024 17:41:15 GMT
I think the issue with the limited to 1,500 copies thing is that by its very nature it’s inconsistent. Ranges will sell better than others, which will completely alter the time it takes for these things to sell out and nobody knows how many sales have been carried out on preorders before official announcements and confirmation of units remaining. Or does it go 1,500 copies from announcement, in which we have another Once & Future situation where there’s actually more copies than what’s being listed? And has 1,500 been something that’s carefully considered, as in some cases I wonder if they’d be stuck with more leftovers in the warehouse than they would if they’d have just stuck to it being in print for a year? And what about selling to other retailers, how many are reserved for them? I don't think it's a company-wide policy. Goth Opera for example isn't a limited CD release, whereas the new 4, 5, 6, and Missy sets are. I think there'll be a blend going forward - I doubt the 8DAs or 9DAs aren't outselling the 1500 number. I think if they’re offering bundles that are mixed in terms of limited or not, then it becomes messy. If they’re doing it for the 4, 5 & 6 sets, then it seems logical it’ll happen for 1, 2, 3 & 7 moving forward (and dare I say the recasts should be even more limited? But I can’t see them outright implying that by attaching numbers to them fewer than 1,500), leaving 8 exempt, despite being part of the Classic Doctors bundle. I wouldn’t be surprised if 8 is limited moving forward, mind, if 4 is, as they both were consistently in BF’s top sellers for 2024. Which would suggest 9 should also be limited for Series 4 onwards? And if Goth Opera isn’t limited but Dream Team is, then where’s the logic there if we’ve been told the novel adaptations aren’t brilliant sellers previously? They’re clearly selling enough to justify another run, but have they suddenly outsold the general Classic Doctor sets? I can’t see it myself. As I say, messy. Will be interesting to see how it evolves moving forward, such as when the 2025 Classic Doctors bundle is announced, or we get new ranges. EDIT: That’s not to say I don’t favour limiting the numbers. If it works for BF and ensures their future viability, then it’s great. It’s just not very clear cut currently, there’s a lot of varying factors that don’t seem to be in clear consideration currently, at least not as customers. And they’ve not got a good track record of decisions like these.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 10, 2024 17:41:43 GMT
Peter Purves has been rather vocal in the past about not wanting to perform opposite a Hartnell impersonator I really can't see why they dropped him (and Fraser Hines as the second Doctor), particularly after the fantastic "Daughter of the Gods" He went public with the fact he wouldn't get Vaccinated for COVID so either they've managed to get him set up for Home Recording or they've agreed terms on health and safety liabilities. Regards mark687
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 10, 2024 17:49:07 GMT
I really can't see why they dropped him (and Fraser Hines as the second Doctor), particularly after the fantastic "Daughter of the Gods" He went public with the fact he wouldn't get Vaccinated for COVID so either they've managed to get him set up for Home Recording or they've agreed terms on health and safety liabilities. Regards mark687 Sorry Mark, I’ve read and re-read your post but don’t really follow what you’re saying. Are you suggesting Noonan was cast in favour of Purves as the latter wasn’t keen on getting vaccinated? If so, what’s that got to do with a home recording or agreement now, if he’s not recording? He’s not doing the 1DAs and doesn’t seem likely to appear in the Chronicles replacement based on his previous views, so I’m not grasping your point, apologies.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 10, 2024 21:48:55 GMT
He went public with the fact he wouldn't get Vaccinated for COVID so either they've managed to get him set up for Home Recording or they've agreed terms on health and safety liabilities. Regards mark687 Sorry Mark, I’ve read and re-read your post but don’t really follow what you’re saying. Are you suggesting Noonan was cast in favour of Purves as the latter wasn’t keen on getting vaccinated? If so, what’s that got to do with a home recording or agreement now, if he’s not recording? He’s not doing the 1DAs and doesn’t seem likely to appear in the Chronicles replacement based on his previous views, so I’m not grasping your point, apologies. I've not heard anything about Purves objecting to re-casts but he did say he wouldn't get vaccinated, I'm summarizing that working around that would be a bigger hurdle then someone objecting to re-casts, and as previously stated the re-casts will feature in these new Chronicle stories anyway. Regards mark687
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 10, 2024 22:10:38 GMT
Sorry Mark, I’ve read and re-read your post but don’t really follow what you’re saying. Are you suggesting Noonan was cast in favour of Purves as the latter wasn’t keen on getting vaccinated? If so, what’s that got to do with a home recording or agreement now, if he’s not recording? He’s not doing the 1DAs and doesn’t seem likely to appear in the Chronicles replacement based on his previous views, so I’m not grasping your point, apologies. I've not heard anything about Purves objecting to re-casts but he did say he wouldn't get vaccinated, I'm summarizing that working around that would be a bigger hurdle then someone objecting to re-casts, and as previously stated the re-casts will feature in these new Chronicle stories anyway. Regards mark687 Thanks for the clarification. Still not really seeing the relevance, as COVID restrictions are no longer in place, so don’t think Big Finish will have done any sort of compromise or arrangement if Purves was to be recording now. Although if true it does make one wonder if they’d planned a fourth First Doctor Companion Chronicles set that never materialised? The comments about Purves being hesitant to working opposite another actor playing the First Doctor has come from panels at cons, including ones I’ve attended. That stance could well change; it’s happened enough with actors and Big Finish over the years after all. Time will tell, it always does.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 10, 2024 22:26:56 GMT
I've not heard anything about Purves objecting to re-casts but he did say he wouldn't get vaccinated, I'm summarizing that working around that would be a bigger hurdle then someone objecting to re-casts, and as previously stated the re-casts will feature in these new Chronicle stories anyway. Regards mark687 Thanks for the clarification. Still not really seeing the relevance, as COVID restrictions are no longer in place, so don’t think Big Finish will have done any sort of compromise or arrangement if Purves was to be recording now. Although if true it does make one wonder if they’d planned a fourth First Doctor Companion Chronicles set that never materialised? The comments about Purves being hesitant to working opposite another actor playing the First Doctor has come from panels at cons, including ones I’ve attended. That stance could well change; it’s happened enough with actors and Big Finish over the years after all. Time will tell, it always does. Interestingly Colin Baker just sent him Birthday wishes ending with "see you "On Set" soon Regards mark687
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Post by captainpugwash on Feb 11, 2024 1:01:13 GMT
[CD Collectors "will be fine if they get in early" despite Limited Pressings apparently!
That sounds quite callous to me.
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Post by muddyviolet on Feb 11, 2024 3:37:33 GMT
[CD Collectors "will be fine if they get in early" despite Limited Pressings apparently! That sounds quite callous to me. If you ask me this is too boost sales. I've already bought two series I would have waited till future discounts before ordering. Its a scarcity marketing tactic that is not only beneficial for increasing sales but moves them towards the digital focused model they've been moving towards.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 11, 2024 6:18:52 GMT
[CD Collectors "will be fine if they get in early" despite Limited Pressings apparently! That sounds quite callous to me. If you ask me this is too boost sales. I've already bought two series I would have waited till future discounts before ordering. Its a scarcity marketing tactic that is not only beneficial for increasing sales but moves them towards the digital focused model they've been moving towards.
Which is a shame (as a physical collector of all things over the last 40 years).. Theory - when they Eventually get rid of physical product so all that's left is digital.. watch the prices go up...
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Post by number13 on Feb 11, 2024 9:14:38 GMT
To me the new Chronicles as described do sound exactly like the Early Adventures except with recast Doctors. I think this is a pity for two reasons.
I like the old-style Chronicles, with the narration. It makes them a distinct range; the last few tried to be as full-cast as possible and while they were good stories, it lost the distinctiveness and (for me) some of the charm.
The Early Adventures were excellent. For overall consistency and quality v. quantity I thought they were one of BF's best ranges, up there with J&L and the 60s Counter-Measures. There were zero poor stories and a high number of classics; admittedly the logistics are getting harder but we could have had another few First/Steven/Vicki and Second/Jamie/Zoe stories surely?
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Post by hamsterexastris on Feb 11, 2024 13:17:10 GMT
Which is a shame (as a physical collector of all things over the last 40 years).. Theory - when they Eventually get rid of physical product so all that's left is digital.. watch the prices go up...
If they think the market will bear it, why would they wait?
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 11, 2024 18:34:14 GMT
New Companion Chronicles will be more like EAs with Steven Noonan and Micheal Troughton appearing with TV Companion Actors Then why not just call them EAs and market them as such if that is what they are? Why call them Companion Chronicles at all?
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 11, 2024 19:10:25 GMT
Which is a shame (as a physical collector of all things over the last 40 years).. Theory - when they Eventually get rid of physical product so all that's left is digital.. watch the prices go up...
If they think the market will bear it, why would they wait? My theory is they know they still $ell a good percentage of physical.. Plus any change and Whovians freak out LOLZ.
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Post by theillusiveman on Feb 12, 2024 5:45:07 GMT
A thought just occurred if they are having Noonan and Troughton in the companion chronicles range then why not simply just have a second volume for the first and second doctor adventures
If it’s going to be full cast and the 1/2DAs have just one volume wouldn’t it be more financially viable to do that instead of changing the companion chronicles?
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Post by theillusiveman on Feb 12, 2024 5:45:53 GMT
If they think the market will bear it, why would they wait? My theory is they know they still $ell a good percentage of physical.. Plus any change and Whovians freak out LOLZ.
There is always a market for physical media I just wish that companies would remember that
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 17, 2024 10:28:53 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Feb 17, 2024 12:16:42 GMT
This Weeks Live Link www.bigfinish.com/podcasts/v/2024-02-18-planet-sabotageThe Chat In light of Gallifrey Debate on the correct pronunciation and origins of Galiyifrey Nick still edits mentions of it from 1DAs and 2DAS Tangent Nicks done some random AI assisted 3rd Doctor Endings From the E-Mails Charlotte Pollard Series 3 is meant to be written by Nick and Ian Medows. however there is still no time or place for it in the schedule (last weeks Podcast remember said the next 3 years schedule was almost locked in) Would they bring a humanoid companion back from the dead? only if the story was strong enough. No plans but at same time there wouldn't be a problem factoring in the Blu-Ray Announcement films They Haven't forgotten that its 25 Years of DW at BF. There will be things happening. When Live this Week's RAN Offer Discount Tittle [25% Off DL Only] will be: DW MR NO 196 Equilibrium Next Weeks Podcast will cover Star Cops Blood Moon 2 Daughters of Death Regards mark687
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Post by timleschild on Feb 17, 2024 14:26:13 GMT
Nicks done some random AI assisted 3rd Doctor Endings OMG no Nick no.
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