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Post by elkawho on May 20, 2017 14:28:02 GMT
So my son and I were talking and he asked me if every Doctor has met The Master, and I couldn't answer that well. I don't think so, at least not when talking only TV and audio. According to my somewhat limited memory: One and Two haven't, since he was introduced during Three's era. However, we know that The Doctor and The Master go way back, so maybe there have been stories with them. (And I could bring up the whole "The War Chief is The Master" controversy, but I don't want to open THAT can of worms.) We know 4-8 have, but Nine didn't and I don't believe Eleven did either. And who knows if War did. If so, we just don't have those stories yet.
Am I right? I may be missing something.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 20, 2017 14:51:07 GMT
I'd say War Doctor met War Master a couple of times on different campaigns. If The Dark Path is canon then the Second Doctor met him on the path to being the Master and of course The first Doctor and he were friends for years but when he had no inkling of being The Master
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 16:20:54 GMT
Even if you're not talking audios and books - The Five Doctors has the First and Second Doctors meeting up with Ainley's Master albeit in a group setting.
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Post by elkawho on May 20, 2017 16:22:47 GMT
Even if you're not talking audios and books - The Five Doctors has the First and Second Doctors meeting up with Ainley's Master albeit in a group setting. Oh yes!! I knew I was missing something, I just couldn't think of what. |
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Post by dasmaniac on May 20, 2017 19:48:08 GMT
IDW's Prisoner of Time series had the Eleventh Doctor meet the Ainley Master. So far I believe the Ninth Doctor is the only incarnation not to encounter the Master in any medium. Titan has had The War Doctor encounter the Master though.
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Post by sherlock on May 20, 2017 19:53:14 GMT
IDW's Prisoner of Time series had the Eleventh Doctor meet the Ainley Master. So far I believe the Ninth Doctor is the only incarnation not to encounter the Master in any medium. Titan has had The War Doctor encounter the Master though. Ninth Doctor is present in the finale of Prisoners of Time where the Doctors as a group face Ainley Master (I think, from rough memory). |
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Post by acousticwolf on May 20, 2017 20:23:58 GMT
The Second Doctor knew The Master, but of course back then he was known as The War Chief  I'll get my coat... Cheers Tony |
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Post by kimalysong on May 20, 2017 20:26:34 GMT
I haven't read it but I recall there was a book with the 2'd Doctor & Master. And acousticwolf you did not just go there  |
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Post by nucleusofswarm on May 20, 2017 21:09:07 GMT
I haven't read it but I recall there was a book with the 2'd Doctor & Master. The Dark Path by David A. McIntee |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 6:40:40 GMT
I haven't read it but I recall there was a book with the 2'd Doctor & Master. And acousticwolf you did not just go there Light the blue touch paper and stand well back.  There's also The Nameless City short story which features the Second Doctor, Jamie and the Master. |
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Post by acousticwolf on May 21, 2017 7:34:40 GMT
 Cheers Tony |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 2:32:36 GMT
I haven't read it but I recall there was a book with the 2'd Doctor & Master. And acousticwolf you did not just go there Light the blue touch paper and stand well back. There's also The Nameless City short story which features the Second Doctor, Jamie and the Master.
Huh, I didn't know that, I haven't read any of the Penguin short stories. Thanks, Wolfie
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 2:42:02 GMT
Light the blue touch paper and stand well back. There's also The Nameless City short story which features the Second Doctor, Jamie and the Master.
Huh, I didn't know that, I haven't read any of the Penguin short stories. Thanks, Wolfie
No worries. They're not my most favourite stories in the world, but I can definitely recommend Nothing O'Clock by Neil Gaiman for the Eleventh Doctor. There's some real clever storytelling going on with that one. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 22, 2017 16:20:00 GMT
It would be nice if Big Finish could find a way to do a Ninth Doctor/Master story if they ever achieve the impossible and get Christopher Eccleston onboard.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on May 22, 2017 17:30:20 GMT
It would be nice if Big Finish could find a way to do a Ninth Doctor/Master story if they ever achieve the impossible and get Christopher Eccleston onboard. Not possible, is it? Unless we head down the memory wipe lane for both of them and that's a cop out we're sick of. |
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Post by mark687 on May 22, 2017 17:42:43 GMT
Why stand back everyone if BF and DWM can alter accepted Cannon post Pertwee TV EPs then the Dark Path should be followed.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 23, 2017 8:21:59 GMT
It would be nice if Big Finish could find a way to do a Ninth Doctor/Master story if they ever achieve the impossible and get Christopher Eccleston onboard. Not possible, is it? Unless we head down the memory wipe lane for both of them and that's a cop out we're sick of. They could have the Ninth Doctor meet an earlier incarnation, like Geoffrey Beevers' Master. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 0:17:54 GMT
I can't help but wonder if we're going to see The Master in a First Doctor Early Adventure release with the original TARDIS team.
Yes, it'd be incredibly audacious, but Big Finish has never shirked from such a challenge before and there's still plenty of room to keep The Master mysterious if it's kept mostly from Ian and Babara's point of view. |
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Post by constonks on May 24, 2017 2:56:58 GMT
I can't help but wonder if we're going to see The Master in a First Doctor Early Adventure release with the original TARDIS team.
Yes, it'd be incredibly audacious, but Big Finish has never shirked from such a challenge before and there's still plenty of room to keep The Master mysterious if it's kept mostly from Ian and Babara's point of view. Hm. I'd hope not, if only because BF would feel the need to tell the first Master story (the EAs are always meant to fit into the series at the time after all) and I like The Dark Path which clearly gives the Doctor and Master a first meeting since leaving Gallifrey. Kind of disappointed we never got an EA-style version of that book while we had the NAs, but I understand the Delgado recast was a bit of an issue. But! If we got an Ian and Barbara story with Geoffrey Beevers where the Doctor never ran into his nemesis (or just never realises who he is), oh my my I would love that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 6:30:39 GMT
I can't help but wonder if we're going to see The Master in a First Doctor Early Adventure release with the original TARDIS team.
Yes, it'd be incredibly audacious, but Big Finish has never shirked from such a challenge before and there's still plenty of room to keep The Master mysterious if it's kept mostly from Ian and Babara's point of view. Hm. I'd hope not, if only because BF would feel the need to tell the first Master story (the EAs are always meant to fit into the series at the time after all) and I like The Dark Path which clearly gives the Doctor and Master a first meeting since leaving Gallifrey. Kind of disappointed we never got an EA-style version of that book while we had the NAs, but I understand the Delgado recast was a bit of an issue. But! If we got an Ian and Barbara story with Geoffrey Beevers where the Doctor never ran into his nemesis (or just never realises who he is), oh my my I would love that. You could imply it, I suppose. David A. McIntee did something similar with Mission: Impractical, bounty hunters Sha'ol and Karthakh are dispatched by Mr Zimmerman who has ties to the Matrix on Gallifrey. He's never named, nor his identity exposed, but a slip of the tongue when he says "our" instead of "his" heavily implies he's the Valeyard. (Personally, I like to think this was the last in a very long series of assassination attempts on his part during Frobisher's post- Trial adventures with Sixie. It's why he steps up and puts himself in the spotlight for Trial of the Valeyard.) |
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