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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 17, 2017 17:58:48 GMT
Yes its oddly spaced hard to spot when seen on darker backgrounds, people found the same thing with the cover for Time in Office
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I thought it was just another star in the background artwork! Yes, I suppose there should be a comma after 'Peter Davison' on the 'Time in Office' cover, it's a list. But when the names are arranged one per line, I'd go wild with the grammar rebels and leave it out. (Shocking, but true. ) Ah I see, I was wondering why you were going on about an apostrophe Its not really an issue for me as I swapped the cover around, and the other side has no comma at all.
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Post by number13 on Oct 17, 2017 18:39:20 GMT
I thought it was just another star in the background artwork! Yes, I suppose there should be a comma after 'Peter Davison' on the 'Time in Office' cover, it's a list. But when the names are arranged one per line, I'd go wild with the grammar rebels and leave it out. (Shocking, but true. ) Ah I see, I was wondering why you were going on about an apostrophe Its not really an issue for me as I swapped the cover around, and the other side has no comma at all. Misplaced apostrophe's do annoy me but not this time (even if there had been one, which there wasn't!); that was another poster. I thought it was a star then found it was a comma; perhaps it was a commaet and it moved away through space...
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Oct 17, 2017 19:31:50 GMT
Ah I see, I was wondering why you were going on about an apostrophe Its not really an issue for me as I swapped the cover around, and the other side has no comma at all. Misplaced apostrophe's do annoy me but not this time (even if there had been one, which there wasn't!); that was another poster. I thought it was a star then found it was a comma; perhaps it was a commaet and it moved away through space... Yeah sorry, my mistake. Their response to me had been quoted by you, so I was trying to just reply to the conversation as a whole.
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Post by number13 on Oct 18, 2017 23:34:47 GMT
The BehemothI had looked forward to this story for an unusually long time, since we first learned on this forum about a Sixth Doctor historical, the period and the subject - well before the earliest official announcements. DU have agents everywhere... Normally I stay clear of spoilers, I don't listen to the trailer and so on, but this time I was so intrigued that I did the opposite and followed every pre-release detail, building up a shopping list of what I wanted from the story: classic 'Doctor Who' historical / morality play on the slave trade plus Sheridan-esque 'Restoration' social comedy and a very large and unusual diversion thrown in. That much expectation may seem risky, but I was confident from the moment I heard Marc Platt would be writing the story - and the result is a cracker (as they said in 1756...) It's everything I hoped for and more; moving, entertaining, adventurous, intricate, educational and life-affirming with surprising amounts of humour (given the historical backdrop) and some moments of pure fan-pleasing continuity. The icing on the cake was when I heard the character names and a few Malapropisms, then Marc Platt mentioning Sheridan's plays on the interview track. Brilliant. Colin Baker, Lisa Greenwood and Miranda Raison make a terrific team and whoever had the idea of bringing Flip and Constance into the TARDIS together, they were inspired. This is a classic historical, updated very slightly for the Sixth Doctor's era, and the usual rules about not rewriting history apply. So Marc Platt has cleverly told the story of the slave trade in miniature, with the Doctor and companions helping one couple to escape enslavement and be together, freed with a few of their friends from one single slave owner and trader (and dark satanic mill-owner too.) As this is a classic historical, we can enjoy looking out for the checklist of traditional moments: the TARDIS crew taking part in local customs at the baths and the ball, the Doctor impersonating (if not actually disguised as) a famous personage, a real famous personage 'The Lady Clara' making her considerable presence felt, a companion separated and needing rescue, a journey with the TARDIS loaded onto a cart for transport, 'Marco Polo' style (or as in the author's excellent story 'The Flames of Cadiz'). But some of the familiar elements are there just for show, before a twist reminds us this is the Sixth Doctor not the First and that a few things have changed along the years. {Spoiler} The TARDIS isn't there just for show - the Doctor can actually pilot it now, accurately enough to use it in the plot. The character writing and the guest cast are really excellent and the plot is full of detail; this is a story to listen to with full attention and savour every moment. And while Constance's friendship with anti-slavery campaigner Rev. Naylor ends tragically, there is a happy ending for Sarah and Gorembe, evil Sir Geoffrey Balsam gets his just desserts and rich brat Titus Craven gets his too. But the best guest character for me was Mrs Middlemint (played perfectly by Georgina Moon) who develops considerably during the play, in part thanks to the Doctor's influence; the African characters aren't the only ones who need to gain their freedom. As you can tell, I loved it; a superb story to listen to many times. {Spoiler Notes} Marc Platt fans will enjoy spotting references to Jane Austen and "the last dragon in England" ('Frostfire') and the Wingalu people ('The Ghosts of Gralstead') and I'm sure there were more I missed, while the Doctor's mildly romantic cups of hot chocolate with Mrs. Middlemint are surely a charming nod to a similar moment in 'The Aztecs', 50 years before.
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 19, 2017 7:06:51 GMT
Two hours of solid top notch audio drama, The Monthly Range has had strong releases this year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 14:25:37 GMT
Another angle to the hot chocolate scene, the conversation topic the Doctor offers about the source of the chocolate reminds me of of the scene in Remembrance of the Daleks where the Seventh Doctor ponders the moral price of the sugar in his tea. The Doctor enjoying hot chocolate with a quite amourous lady friend while his companions go through the ringer? Never mind Remembrance - that was pure Aztecs I liked this one a lot. It was quite intense not just because of the underlying subject matter but Marc's writing and dialogue is always so dense and clearly he goes to lengths to ensure it's as authentic as possible when doing historicals. Because of that, it was a story I found I had to really focus on quite intently. I agree with others that the nature of this story, and the verbosity of Sixie, could easily have lent itself to a patronising, preachy outing but this never veers anywhere near those problems while still taking a distinctly DW stance.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 31, 2017 11:35:10 GMT
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Post by nottenst on Oct 31, 2017 13:45:56 GMT
Listened to this last week. It was a lot of fun and as several people have mentioned as well, Mrs Middlemint was my favorite supporting character. She was great throughout with a nice arc. Just overall well done even though the party-goers never did get see Lady Clara. I was quite surprised that she was an historical character. In the wikipedia article it says "Little is known of her exact movements from 1752 to 1758" so having the story in 1756 fits in there.
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Post by elkawho on Nov 6, 2017 18:45:10 GMT
I listened to it again. I think I did like it more, but for some reason it just didn't grab me the way is did the rest of you. And the first episode is SO slow. And I find it odd that I feel this way since I usually love the historicals. Ah, well.
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Post by constonks on Feb 9, 2018 1:47:32 GMT
I listened to it again. I think I did like it more, but for some reason it just didn't grab me the way is did the rest of you. And the first episode is SO slow. And I find it odd that I feel this way since I usually love the historicals. Ah, well. Funnily enough I liked the slow beginning more than the quicker pace at the end. It was good overall but its focus was a little all over the place. I think I may need to give it another listen - probably will pick it up again when Flip and Constance eventually return for another story or three.
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Post by Ela on Apr 16, 2018 19:03:48 GMT
I just finished listening to this. It was a little slow to get started, but, by the end I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Flip was definitely no "damsel in distress". I love the way she bonded with Clara. And I love the way the issue of slavery in that time period was tackled.
Full marks on this story from me.
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Post by Hieronymus on Oct 22, 2018 2:41:07 GMT
This story featured many surprises and kept a brisk pace while remaining focused on the characters. I was not expecting a purely historical adventure and was pleased greatly by the combination of elements so well assembled.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 14:55:30 GMT
Lordy I can't get into this at all. I'm finding it somewhat dreary and so, SO slow. I don't think I've got passed the first one and a half episodes without either becoming distracted by something else and hence losing the plot, or simply falling asleep, despite six restarts !
UPDATE: ...... Nope finally given up on this one. Really not my cup of tea.
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