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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 26, 2020 10:32:43 GMT
The latest podcast suggests we may get the download of The Lovecraft Invasion soon. I think that implies that there’s been some work done to it and material has been edited, so the download will be ready but the CD’s will need to be repressed. It can’t have been an issue with the recording, otherwise the delay would’ve happened far earlier, and it can’t have been an issue with the CD’s, as the download would’ve still gone out, amid Big Finish’s warehouse backlog. I don’t think we’ll never know what actual edits have been made, but I think it’s safe to say that it relates to the story content.
Its a real shame that we wont likely hear the Original Unedited Version of The Lovecraft Invasion if thats the case.
True. It may be edits after the fact. Intriguing. & such a late in the day decision. Wonder if they will be honest in the extras.
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Post by dorney on Jul 26, 2020 11:29:14 GMT
The latest podcast suggests we may get the download of The Lovecraft Invasion soon. I think that implies that there’s been some work done to it and material has been edited, so the download will be ready but the CD’s will need to be repressed. It can’t have been an issue with the recording, otherwise the delay would’ve happened far earlier, and it can’t have been an issue with the CD’s, as the download would’ve still gone out, amid Big Finish’s warehouse backlog. I don’t think we’ll never know what actual edits have been made, but I think it’s safe to say that it relates to the story content. Several releases have had issues between recording and manufacturing that don’t involve edits.
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Post by dorney on Jul 26, 2020 11:34:23 GMT
Its a real shame that we wont likely hear the Original Unedited Version of The Lovecraft Invasion if thats the case.
True. It may be edits after the fact. Intriguing. & such a late in the day decision. Wonder if they will be honest in the extras. With this greatest of respect you seem obsessed with the idea there’s something sinister here. But this does sometimes happen. Indeed if there is a download out this month it’s literally the same thing as happened with Robots two.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 26, 2020 13:33:00 GMT
The latest podcast suggests we may get the download of The Lovecraft Invasion soon. I think that implies that there’s been some work done to it and material has been edited, so the download will be ready but the CD’s will need to be repressed. It can’t have been an issue with the recording, otherwise the delay would’ve happened far earlier, and it can’t have been an issue with the CD’s, as the download would’ve still gone out, amid Big Finish’s warehouse backlog. I don’t think we’ll never know what actual edits have been made, but I think it’s safe to say that it relates to the story content. Several releases have had issues between recording and manufacturing that don’t involve edits. Okay? I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure what point you’re making with respect to The Lovecraft Invasion. If it was an issue with the recording, sound or music then the delay would’ve happened far earlier than Big Finish announced. If it was an issue with the manufacturing then they wouldn’t have delayed the release, just the dispatch of the CD’s, which wouldn’t have been a massive issue given the warehouse backlog. They would’ve been more clear with the reasoning behind the delay too, I’d have thought.
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Post by dorney on Jul 26, 2020 13:41:19 GMT
Several releases have had issues between recording and manufacturing that don’t involve edits. Okay? I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure what point you’re making with respect to The Lovecraft Invasion. If it was an issue with the recording, sound or music then the delay would’ve happened far earlier than Big Finish announced. If it was an issue with the manufacturing then they wouldn’t have delayed the release, just the dispatch of the CD’s, which wouldn’t have been a massive issue given the warehouse backlog. They would’ve been more clear with the reasoning behind the delay too, I’d have thought. That’s a bit of a leap. We are going through unprecedented times. People have different circumstances. It’s easily possible something that would usually have been caught earlier wasn’t.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 26, 2020 13:49:58 GMT
Okay? I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure what point you’re making with respect to The Lovecraft Invasion. If it was an issue with the recording, sound or music then the delay would’ve happened far earlier than Big Finish announced. If it was an issue with the manufacturing then they wouldn’t have delayed the release, just the dispatch of the CD’s, which wouldn’t have been a massive issue given the warehouse backlog. They would’ve been more clear with the reasoning behind the delay too, I’d have thought. That’s a bit of a leap. We are going through unprecedented times. People have different circumstances. It’s easily possible something that would usually have been caught earlier wasn’t. I think that’s a leap. Big Finish have carried on with their large output all through these unprecedented times and the only disruption just so happens to be on the release that was set to deal with a historical figures well documented xenophobia and was due to release bang in the middle of protests speaking out against it. That’s an awful lot of coincidences.
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Post by Digi on Jul 26, 2020 13:50:41 GMT
I’m really looking forward to the delay turning out to be for just the most asinine reasons in the world. Like, ‘I unexpectedly had to dog sit for a few days and when I got home my computer had died and due to everyone being at home it took ages for a new one to be shipped out so I missed the deadline for finishing the story in time for release’ kind of thing.
If, for no other reason, just because I’m tired of reading sinister conspiratorial nonsense in this thread.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jul 26, 2020 13:57:55 GMT
BF have actually sided with the Dalek Empire to spread anti-Doctor propaganda. And you fools have all fallen for it!
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Post by grinch on Jul 26, 2020 14:01:16 GMT
BF have actually sided with the Dalek Empire to spread anti-Doctor propaganda. And you fools have all fallen for it! What tommyrot! Clearly Cthulhu and the rest of his fellow Eldritch brethren have taken steps to suppress this release to prevent such slander being made about their character.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 26, 2020 14:11:49 GMT
I’m really looking forward to the delay turning out to be for just the most asinine reasons in the world. Like, ‘I unexpectedly had to dog sit for a few days and when I got home my computer had died and due to everyone being at home it took ages for a new one to be shipped out so I missed the deadline for finishing the story in time for release’ kind of thing. If, for no other reason, just because I’m tired of reading sinister conspiratorial nonsense in this thread. Yeah, it will have been a small thing. Maybe there was a sentence in there that needed editing. So what? Or maybe it was a dog sitting issue, as you say. I obviously was only a small thing because they seem to have fixed the issue already.
I do not understand why this needs to be made into a mystery drama.... I actually even suspect they might tell us sometime later. Until then I am just curious to hear the audio play.
And looking forward to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 17:52:38 GMT
If, for no other reason, just because I’m tired of reading sinister conspiratorial nonsense in this thread. It seems everywhere I turn these days I hear sinister conspiratorial nonsense... there must be something in the air.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 26, 2020 17:58:09 GMT
If, for no other reason, just because I’m tired of reading sinister conspiratorial nonsense in this thread. It seems everywhere I turn these days I hear sinister conspiratorial nonsense... there must be something in the air. Yeah, it’s people in positions of power conspiring against us.
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 26, 2020 19:21:32 GMT
Maybe it's all a marketing ploy because preorders were low. If it was, it's worked well - the release is certainly getting a lot more attention!
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 26, 2020 19:28:34 GMT
Okay? I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure what point you’re making with respect to The Lovecraft Invasion. If it was an issue with the recording, sound or music then the delay would’ve happened far earlier than Big Finish announced. If it was an issue with the manufacturing then they wouldn’t have delayed the release, just the dispatch of the CD’s, which wouldn’t have been a massive issue given the warehouse backlog. They would’ve been more clear with the reasoning behind the delay too, I’d have thought. That’s a bit of a leap. We are going through unprecedented times. People have different circumstances. It’s easily possible something that would usually have been caught earlier wasn’t. For what it's worth, trying to look at this from a standpoint that is (a) neutral and (b) ignorant of what is really going on, shallacatop's argument is the more persuasive. Doesn't mean he's right or you're wrong, but his is more plausible sounding. Perhaps if you gave an example of a similar very last minute delay and the (non sinister) reasons for it, your argument would would be more persuasive
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Post by penguintim on Jul 26, 2020 19:43:27 GMT
Perhaps if you gave an example of a similar very last minute delay and the (non sinister) reasons for it, your argument would would be more persuasive The Jackie/Metacrisis 10 short trips?
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Post by dorney on Jul 26, 2020 20:02:31 GMT
That’s a bit of a leap. We are going through unprecedented times. People have different circumstances. It’s easily possible something that would usually have been caught earlier wasn’t. For what it's worth, trying to look at this from a standpoint that is (a) neutral and (b) ignorant of what is really going on, shallacatop's argument is the more persuasive. Doesn't mean he's right or you're wrong, but his is more plausible sounding. Perhaps if you gave an example of a similar very last minute delay and the (non sinister) reasons for it, your argument would would be more persuasive I’m not giving out any reasons that aren’t in the public domain, sorry. Largely because I don’t know many, but mainly because it just isn’t professional. (Also - given that I was pointing out that a pandemic is somewhat unprecedented, so unusual situations can occur, I’m not likely to find many similar comparisons, am I?) But I’m not really making an actual argument. Just pointing something out. Shallacatop’s speculation is plausible, sure. But the journey between recording and physical copy is a long one, with many stages where things can go wrong. Meaning the argument isn’t exhaustive. That’s all I’m saying.
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 26, 2020 20:12:23 GMT
For what it's worth, trying to look at this from a standpoint that is (a) neutral and (b) ignorant of what is really going on, shallacatop's argument is the more persuasive. Doesn't mean he's right or you're wrong, but his is more plausible sounding. Perhaps if you gave an example of a similar very last minute delay and the (non sinister) reasons for it, your argument would would be more persuasive I’m not giving out any reasons that aren’t in the public domain, sorry. Largely because I don’t know many, but mainly because it just isn’t professional. Fair enough and I shouldn't have asked - sorry
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Post by dorney on Jul 26, 2020 20:24:41 GMT
I’m not giving out any reasons that aren’t in the public domain, sorry. Largely because I don’t know many, but mainly because it just isn’t professional. Fair enough and I shouldn't have asked - sorry Oh, not a worry. For what it’s worth, I do get the curiosity. I understand that. All I’m saying, really, is that sometimes things get delayed. For a variety of reasons, some of which you’d never guess. It happens. Sometimes things get edits after the fact too (without changing the release date in the slightest!). Certainly as I’ve mentioned above, Robots 2 was due out last month, but has come out this month. I think there was less explanation for that than Lovecraft, but somehow this is the one that’s caught the imagination. Anyhow...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 20:38:47 GMT
Fair enough and I shouldn't have asked - sorry Oh, not a worry. For what it’s worth, I do get the curiosity. I understand that. All I’m saying, really, is that sometimes things get delayed. For a variety of reasons, some of which you’d never guess. It happens. Sometimes things get edits after the fact too (without changing the release date in the slightest!). Certainly as I’ve mentioned above, Robots 2 was due out last month, but has come out this month. I think there was less explanation for that than Lovecraft, but somehow this is the one that’s caught the imagination. Anyhow... I'm really hoping that the delay going from from production to distribution has been for interviews with the author, Robert Valentine. *crosses fingers* In Vortex, he sounded as though he had more than a passing familiarity with the Lovecraft mythos, its themes and its application in media, so it'd be really great to get that perspective on this release, in particular.
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Post by cwm on Jul 26, 2020 20:42:37 GMT
Fair enough and I shouldn't have asked - sorry Oh, not a worry. For what it’s worth, I do get the curiosity. I understand that. All I’m saying, really, is that sometimes things get delayed. For a variety of reasons, some of which you’d never guess. It happens. Sometimes things get edits after the fact too (without changing the release date in the slightest!). Certainly as I’ve mentioned above, Robots 2 was due out last month, but has come out this month. I think there was less explanation for that than Lovecraft, but somehow this is the one that’s caught the imagination. Anyhow... The Robots was moved back a month well in advance of its originally scheduled release date, whilst Lovecraft was taken off the schedule altogether with two days left in June where it could have come out. We also already knew that Lovecraft was going to be tackling multiple issues that were currently in the headlines (racism, whether it is possible to separate an artist with problematic views from their art). I'm not sure it's that surprising, all things considered, that the delay of Lovecraft caught the imagination.
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