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Post by rran on Jan 10, 2018 8:46:31 GMT
As I've said elsewhere "Its not due for dispatch till the 10th of January (Tomorrow) at least." You've somehow got a Dispatch E-mail early by mistake.
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Yup that's exactly what i been told in the Emai my friend. Yoda told me off "impatient you are young Timelord, be your downfall it will". I actually pictured the Great Jedi telling off my Doctor in this fashion on reading your post
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 10, 2018 9:11:39 GMT
Yup that's exactly what i been told in the Emai my friend. Yoda told me off "impatient you are young Timelord, be your downfall it will". I actually pictured the Great Jedi telling off my Doctor in this fashion on reading your post Lol, be a great scene.
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Post by dorney on Jan 10, 2018 10:00:38 GMT
I know, I know. I'm not particularly a fan of the theory that they're one and the same Time Lord, even though I've seriously contemplated it a couple of times (you never know, BF already crushed my S6b dreams with The Black Hole, although that isn't enough proof in my books anyways). It's just that at one point in part four I got that impression. Which is probably just me, but you know XD Oh, well, I guess that means no-one else did. For what it's worth, The Black Hole only defines placement for The Two Doctors. It does not account for The Three Doctors or The Five Doctors, and, in fact, The Five Doctors must itself take place in 6B because Two knows that Jamie and Zoe had their memories erased. Additionally, the Action in Exile comics still firmly take place post-War Games, so there's your 6B right there as well. In addition to that one PDA. I might have included a little possibility for covering those in something coming up this year...
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Post by mark687 on Jan 10, 2018 10:12:29 GMT
For what it's worth, The Black Hole only defines placement for The Two Doctors. It does not account for The Three Doctors or The Five Doctors, and, in fact, The Five Doctors must itself take place in 6B because Two knows that Jamie and Zoe had their memories erased. Additionally, the Action in Exile comics still firmly take place post-War Games, so there's your 6B right there as well. In addition to that one PDA. I might have included a little possibility for covering those in something coming up this year... Dorney!!! (only kidding BF are always careful when they expand the mythos and continuity).
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Post by constonks on Jan 10, 2018 20:01:47 GMT
Well, The Three Doctors was covered by a Brief Encounter in DWM... but it did imply it was directly after Mind Robber, which it can't be as the Second Doctor mentions The Invasion to Benton.
Honestly, the only reason I cling to 6B in any way is that World Game and a few short stories are explictly set within it. But there's some room in a couple places for Second Doctor stories alone with Jamie (during The Black Hole, during the first couple scenes of The Wheel in Space) and it's entirely possible that the CIA would rewrite time after 6B was done anyway...
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jan 10, 2018 22:42:58 GMT
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Post by dasmaniac on Jan 13, 2018 1:16:00 GMT
All this talk of when the multi-doctor stories take place for the Second Doctor. What about the First? Do we have any idea at which point in his life he is plucked from?
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Post by sherlock on Jan 13, 2018 1:24:22 GMT
All this talk of when the multi-doctor stories take place for the Second Doctor. What about the First? Do we have any idea at which point in his life he is plucked from? One DWM Brief Encounter had his wandering in a rose garden in The Five Doctors occurring soon after The Daleks' Master Plan and a MA novel placed his part in The Three Doctors between The Time Meddler and Galaxy 4. I don't think Big Finish have ever broached the subject.
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Post by constonks on Jan 13, 2018 6:09:34 GMT
All this talk of when the multi-doctor stories take place for the Second Doctor. What about the First? Do we have any idea at which point in his life he is plucked from? One DWM Brief Encounter had his wandering in a rose garden in The Five Doctors occurring soon after The Daleks' Master Plan and a MA novel placed his part in The Three Doctors between The Time Meddler and Galaxy 4. I don't think Big Finish have ever broached the subject. Nor do they need to - the paradox of the Second Doctor placement is that he is A) travelling alone and B) knows things he shouldn't. The First Doctor is taken so quickly in both cases that he could easily have companions with him that we don't see and, indeed, he does in the stories mentioned - he's with Steven and Vicki in The Empire of Glass (which works the time distortion of Three Docs into its plot - Brax is trying to summon Pertwee and gets Hartnell by mistake) and he's alone with Steven in Roses.
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Post by lidar2 on Jan 13, 2018 11:07:06 GMT
the paradox of the Second Doctor placement is that he is A) travelling alone and B) knows things he shouldn't. . Assume that these adventures take place for the second dr after Serpents Crest and it solves these 2 problems
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 12:22:57 GMT
the paradox of the Second Doctor placement is that he is A) travelling alone and B) knows things he shouldn't. . Assume that these adventures take place for the second dr after Serpents Crest and it solves these 2 problems He doesn't have his own TARDIS from memory though, so he's stuck on Earth. It works for Action in Exile, but not for his other stories. I've yet to be convinced about Season 6B being a pile of guff, even with The Black Hole. It feels like it bugs out after the Sontaran attack on Camera, it doesn't quite jibe with the latter part of the story in Seville. For The Two Doctors novelisation, Bob Holmes wrote in for the pair meeting the Time Lords (potentially the High Council). I'll transcribe it here for the novelty: It's probably just a coincidence, but the bookends for The Massacre feature a retired Doctor in a similar garden being queried about his adventures abroad.
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Post by constonks on Jan 13, 2018 14:25:35 GMT
the paradox of the Second Doctor placement is that he is A) travelling alone and B) knows things he shouldn't. . Assume that these adventures take place for the second dr after Serpents Crest and it solves these 2 problems Uh but the Second Doctor isn't in that. That's his clone in Serpent's Crest. And even in that story the Fourth Doctor theorizes that the Second Doctor might be during 6B..
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Post by lidar2 on Jan 13, 2018 14:41:40 GMT
Assume that these adventures take place for the second dr after Serpents Crest and it solves these 2 problems Uh but the Second Doctor isn't in that. That's his clone in Serpent's Crest. Thats the whole point, that's precisely why it solves the problems raised by the 2nd dr in the 5 drs
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Post by constonks on Jan 13, 2018 14:57:31 GMT
Uh but the Second Doctor isn't in that. That's his clone in Serpent's Crest. Thats the whole point, that's precisely why it solves the problems raised by the 2nd dr in the 5 drs Ohhhhh. Huh. I guess that does solve every problem: He's technically a clone of the Fourth Doctor, after all, so he miiight have his memories of The War Games, even if he ended up with the wrong face. I don't remember him being able to time travel though, even if we don't technically see the Second Doc's TARDIS in T5D. ...but honestly I can't say I'm a fan of it. It cheapens the Five Docs scenes too much for me. I'm curious to see what Dorney is alluding to for this year...
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Post by nudge on Jan 14, 2018 9:56:54 GMT
Listened to both stories and a bit of the ‘behind the scenes’ chat yesterday. Really enjoyed the stories and appreciated the mix of sci-fi and historical. Great sound design, very film-esque. Wasn’t particularly keen on either Barbara or Susan, wished the actors had gone with their interpretation of the characters rather than trying to mimic. In the ‘behind the scenes’ chat Claudia Grant said she was trying to copy Carole Ann Ford’s voice - which I’m not particularly keen on either - but think it would have been better to have gone with something more nearer her own natural voice. This would also have helped keep their voices more consistent as a couple of times one of them reminded me of Claire Foy in Netflix’s ‘The Crown’. Also anybody spot Rosalita’s Puerto Rican accent sway into Scottish twice, once quite noticeably, was surprised no one picked it up during recording?
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Post by nudge on Jan 15, 2018 14:59:43 GMT
Also anybody spot Rosalita’s Puerto Rican accent sway into Scottish twice, once quite noticeably, was surprised no one picked it up during recording? If anyone is curious by this according to my Big Finish Android app it occurs @ 32minutes 42 secs Rosalita: "You do not look well Ian, are you sure you should not be in your bed". Have a listen, what do you think?
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Jan 15, 2018 15:36:47 GMT
Also anybody spot Rosalita’s Puerto Rican accent sway into Scottish twice, once quite noticeably, was surprised no one picked it up during recording? I thought that, too - but I'm Scottish and I think everybody should have a Scottish accent.
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Post by nudge on Jan 15, 2018 19:51:48 GMT
Also anybody spot Rosalita’s Puerto Rican accent sway into Scottish twice, once quite noticeably, was surprised no one picked it up during recording? I thought that, too - but I'm Scottish and I think everybody should have a Scottish accent. It would be nice if in a future adventure the Doctor visits an obscure Scottish historical event. It would suit this Doctor perfectly me thinks; makes a nice change to have people stories as sometimes DW is far too reliant on alien monster baddies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 20:33:38 GMT
Any sign of physical copies of this yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 20:43:32 GMT
I loved both stories and thought the world building was fantastic in both. Bradley sounds sweet fanny adams like Hartnell but he's a great First Doctor anyway. I've always liked Jamie Glover and thought he's an excellent Ian. The only thing I disliked in both sets was the Rosalita character. The performance was really quite poor, the accent all over the place and the character going from raving hysteric to rational, cool and collected. Though her sublot managed to make an action scene out of some people climbing a ladder so there's that. I'm sure there'll be complaints about some of the Noo Yawwwwk accents but hey - don't care. These are ancestors of Morton Dill, Lazlo and Tallulah. Though I liked James Dreyfus as The Master in the first story, he doesn't bring anything new to the part at all. In fact, following on so soon from Jacobi there's little about him that stands out that you can say is distinct to his incarnation. A fine but uninspired performance and characterisation. Kinda frsutrates that The Doctor is so different from body to body and incarnation to incarnation but in 2017 BF still give us a massively Delgado-informed Master. Every Doctor does their own thing - why are so many Masters written the same way and played likewise?
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