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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 9:11:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 9:31:20 GMT
I'd be more inclined to think he's hinting we'll see him at Christmas in a coda like we had with the Tennant and Smith companions when those Docs left. I don't see Chibnall having a new broom but retaining Nardole, frankly. Like Series 5, I expect Series 11 to be something of a scorched earth approach with all new heroes.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 19, 2017 9:31:27 GMT
I assumed his departure was rushed because he wasn’t exactly part of the plan from the start.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 9:32:37 GMT
I'd be more inclined to think he's hinting we'll see him at Christmas in a coda like we had with the Tennant and Smith companions when those Docs left. I don't see Chibnall having a new broom but retaining Nardole, frankly. Like Series 5, I expect Series 11 to be something of a scorched earth approach with all new heroes. He might want one returning element from S10 to make his first series working on the show less daunting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 9:45:48 GMT
I didn't feel Nardole's exit from the show was rushed. I would be inclined to think his 'return' will be briefly in the Christmas special. I wouldn't mind Big Fiish taking him on for a while. The Nardole Chronicles has a certain appeal!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 9:50:51 GMT
I didn't feel Nardole's exit from the show was rushed. I would be inclined to think his 'return' will be briefly in the Christmas special. I wouldn't mind Big Fiish taking him on for a while. The Nardole Chronicles has a certain appeal! I wouldn't be surprised if Nardole's first Big Finish appearance is in The Diary of River Song. Maybe in a story that takes place after The Husbands of River Song where River tells Nardole to find her diary and look after the Doctor once she's gone.
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Post by omega on Oct 19, 2017 9:52:03 GMT
I'd be more inclined to think he's hinting we'll see him at Christmas in a coda like we had with the Tennant and Smith companions when those Docs left. I don't see Chibnall having a new broom but retaining Nardole, frankly. Like Series 5, I expect Series 11 to be something of a scorched earth approach with all new heroes. He might want one returning element from S10 to make his first series working on the show less daunting. Moffat did a scorched Earth, New Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS interior, new screwdriver etc. He had created River Song and must of had her story at least roughly sketched out at that point. Nardole wasn't a Chibnall creation, I don't think he'd have any particular reason to retain Nardole.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 9:54:19 GMT
He might want one returning element from S10 to make his first series working on the show less daunting. Moffat did a scorched Earth, New Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS interior, new screwdriver etc. He admitted it was hard though. Chibnall might want to make it easier for himself by keeping Nardole.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 10:00:45 GMT
He might want one returning element from S10 to make his first series working on the show less daunting. Moffat did a scorched Earth, New Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS interior, new screwdriver etc. He had created River Song and must of had her story at least roughly sketched out at that point. Nardole wasn't a Chibnall creation, I don't think he'd have any particular reason to retain Nardole. Yeah, exactly. In his commentary for Silence In The Library, the other contributors are trying to get River's identity out of Moffat and it's clear he wrote her with the future in mind knowing he's have time to unravel the mystery. I also don't get why, DB, you think having Nardole back would make it less daunting? Surely a blank canvas is easier to paint on than one with some of it already painted by someone else? Having to contrive Nardole's return would be more daunting than starting over, surely. I loved Matt Lucasin the role but I don't see any narrative need for him now. He would only serve to tie the past in when this should be a whole new era.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 10:04:52 GMT
Moffat did a scorched Earth, New Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS interior, new screwdriver etc. He had created River Song and must of had her story at least roughly sketched out at that point. Nardole wasn't a Chibnall creation, I don't think he'd have any particular reason to retain Nardole. Yeah, exactly. In his commentary for Silence In The Library, the other contributors are trying to get River's identity out of Moffat and it's clear he wrote her with the future in mind knowing he's have time to unravel the mystery. I also don't get why, DB, you think having Nardole back would make it less daunting? Surely a blank canvas is easier to paint on than one with some of it already painted by someone else? Having to contrive Nardole's return would be more daunting than starting over, surely. I loved Matt Lucasin the role but I don't see any narrative need for him now. He would only serve to tie the past in when this should be a whole new era. A new everything requires the showrunner to start from scratch with no idea whether or not it will work. If he kept Nardole he would have a returning element he knows works to reassure audiences it is the same show.
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Post by omega on Oct 19, 2017 10:09:30 GMT
Yeah, exactly. In his commentary for Silence In The Library, the other contributors are trying to get River's identity out of Moffat and it's clear he wrote her with the future in mind knowing he's have time to unravel the mystery. I also don't get why, DB, you think having Nardole back would make it less daunting? Surely a blank canvas is easier to paint on than one with some of it already painted by someone else? Having to contrive Nardole's return would be more daunting than starting over, surely. I loved Matt Lucasin the role but I don't see any narrative need for him now. He would only serve to tie the past in when this should be a whole new era. A new everything requires the showrunner to start from scratch with no idea whether or not it will work. If he kept Nardole he would have a returning element he knows works to reassure audiences it is the same show. RTD practically started over with everything, easing in the familiar elements like the Daleks. It wasn't until School Reunion it was confirmed on screen the Classic Series was still canon.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 19, 2017 10:25:15 GMT
see I've read it another way,
" cant go into detail but it remains A big part of my life put it that way"
Appearance in a future River diary set maybe or Errands in History with Nardol for BF perhaps?
Regards
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 10:31:03 GMT
Appearance in a future River dairy set maybe They should milk that for all it's worth.
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Post by number13 on Oct 19, 2017 10:31:41 GMT
A new everything requires the showrunner to start from scratch with no idea whether or not it will work. If he kept Nardole he would have a returning element he knows works to reassure audiences it is the same show. RTD practically started over with everything, easing in the familiar elements like the Daleks. It wasn't until School Reunion it was confirmed on screen the Classic Series was still canon. !!! and more ! If it's very, very well-behaved and remembers who its Daddy is, the New Series is allowed to be canon.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 10:35:13 GMT
see I've read it another way, " cant go into detail but it remains A big part of my life put it that way" Appearance in a future River dairy set maybe or Errands in History with Nardol for BF perhaps? Regards mark687 River 'dairy'? I'm sure her husbands would enjoy drinking from her milk if the Whoniverse were real but I don't think she would class herself as a dairy product. Would she be semi-skimmed? Or perhaps a piece of cheese?
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Post by number13 on Oct 19, 2017 10:36:58 GMT
see I've read it another way, " cant go into detail but it remains A big part of my life put it that way" Appearance in a future River dairy set maybe or Errands in History with Nardol for BF perhaps? Regards mark687 Sounds very hopeful. It seemed sometimes that whenever Nardole spoke he dropped in references to unseen previous adventures with and without the Doctor. I thought it was the clearest gaps-for-future-stories operation I've ever seen - which was very good, I liked Nardole in S10. 'The Nardole Chronicles' please.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 10:37:30 GMT
A new everything requires the showrunner to start from scratch with no idea whether or not it will work. If he kept Nardole he would have a returning element he knows works to reassure audiences it is the same show. RTD practically started over with everything, easing in the familiar elements like the Daleks. It wasn't until School Reunion it was confirmed on screen the Classic Series was still canon. Doesn't mean Chibnall would want to do it.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 19, 2017 10:47:09 GMT
RTD practically started over with everything, easing in the familiar elements like the Daleks. It wasn't until School Reunion it was confirmed on screen the Classic Series was still canon. Doesn't mean Chibnall would want to do it. It equally doesn't meant that he wouldn't. I think this is an 'agree to disagree' situation, gentleman We've already done a round or two - let's hit the nail on the head now and be done with it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 19, 2017 10:56:03 GMT
Doesn't mean Chibnall would want to do it. It equally doesn't meant that he wouldn't. I think this is an 'agree to disagree' situation, gentleman We've already done a round or two - let's hit the nail on the head now and be done with it. If we can't agree on this, can we agree on what milk Alex Kingston would be if she was a dairy product? I'm still going for semi-skimmed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 11:04:00 GMT
Yes alright, Dalekbuster. mark687 made a typo. You're very clever pointing it out.
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