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Post by bobod on Jan 19, 2018 10:55:27 GMT
I like the sound of both of those stories. Both feel like they could be quintessential Jon Pertwee era narratives, although it is a shame that Nicholas Courtney is no longer around. Well that's intrinsically true.
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Post by number13 on Jan 19, 2018 11:55:11 GMT
I suppose the counter-argument to that though is that since the TV 3rd Doctor had so few returnees, BF doing more of those would both be adding to the era AND providing a contrast to the TV episodes. Yep, I can certainly appreciate that. Also, I can appreciate that sticking a Dalek or a Cyberman on the cover might sell more products and further guarantee a future for this hugely enjoyable series. If it boosts the 3DAs, it's fine with me. Going by what Katy Manning said on the v3 interviews disc, the 3DAs were already doing well with lots more planned even before we'd heard v3, easily the best volume yet imo. ("From what I'm gathering, they [the 3DAs] are doing extraordinarily well and I'm even hearing little rumours that if Matron will let me out of the Home, we're going to be doing lots more!") I'll trust Jo Grant's undercover intelligence reports from inside BF HQ anyday! The Third Doctor had his own original 'monsters', few of which have returned with other Doctors, or very rarely. So as well as the Daleks (check) and Cybermen (check) I'd like to see Nestenes, Sea Devils, Axons for starters, maybe one per box set, giving space for new creations in the other story. The other 'return' I'd personally like to see is a final Peladon story to complete the cycle - Peladon votes to leave the Federation. Are the Pels truly reclaiming their ancient independence, or is it all an(other) evil plot by diehard traditionalists? ("The Pexit of Peladon"?? )
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 19, 2018 12:07:34 GMT
Yep, I can certainly appreciate that. Also, I can appreciate that sticking a Dalek or a Cyberman on the cover might sell more products and further guarantee a future for this hugely enjoyable series. If it boosts the 3DAs, it's fine with me. Going by what Katy Manning said on the v3 interviews disc, the 3DAs were already doing well with lots more planned even before we'd heard v3, easily the best volume yet imo. ("From what I'm gathering, they [the 3DAs] are doing extraordinarily well and I'm even hearing little rumours that if Matron will let me out of the Home, we're going to be doing lots more!") I'll trust Jo Grant's undercover intelligence reports from inside BF HQ anyday! The Third Doctor had his own original 'monsters', few of which have returned with other Doctors, or very rarely. So as well as the Daleks (check) and Cybermen (check) I'd like to see Nestenes, Sea Devils, Axons for starters, maybe one per box set, giving space for new creations in the other story. The other 'return' I'd personally like to see is a final Peladon story to complete the cycle - Peladon votes to leave the Federation. Are the Pels truly reclaiming their ancient independence, or is it all an(other) evil plot by diehard traditionalists? ("The Pexit of Peladon"?? ) I'd like to see some new series monsters. The Third Doctor and Jo v The Silence would be great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 12:08:54 GMT
Yep, I can certainly appreciate that. Also, I can appreciate that sticking a Dalek or a Cyberman on the cover might sell more products and further guarantee a future for this hugely enjoyable series. Going by what Katy Manning said on the v3 interviews disc, the 3DAs were already doing well with lots more planned, even before we'd heard v3, easily the best volume yet imo. ("From what I'm gathering, they [the 3DAs] are doing extraordinarily well and I'm even hearing little rumours that if Matron will let me out of the Home, we're going to be doing lots more!") I'll trust Jo Grant's undercover intelligence reports from inside BF HQ anyday! The Third Doctor had his own original 'monsters', few of which have returned with other Doctors, or very rarely. So as well as the Daleks (check) and Cybermen (check) I'd like to see Nestenes, Sea Devils, Axons for starters, maybe one per box set, giving space for new creations in the other story. The other 'return' I'd personally like to see is a final Peladon story to complete the cycle - Peladon votes to leave the Federation. Are the Pels truly reclaiming their ancient independence, or is it all an(other) evil plot by diehard traditionalists? ("The Pexit of Peladon"?? ) I'd quite like another Peladon story, either with the Third Doctor or otherwise. I love that it has been a kind of allegory for our UK political, erm, situation, and would like to see that continue. The Peladon Chronicles, anyone ( Pexit is very tempting)? Other Third Doctor originals I remember with extreme fondness are those dear old Drashigs, giant maggot, giant spiders (another 'giant' familiar insect would be welcome for the 3DAs - wasps! Bees! Termites!) and, yes, the Sea Devils.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 19, 2018 17:12:15 GMT
I prefer when the Doctor and the Master meet in, more or less, the right order. I would prefer if they mostly kept Dreyfus in the First Doctor Adventures and Early Adventures. If Caroline John was still alive, then I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Third Doctor episode set before Terror of the Autons. Sadly, that can’t really happen without another recast. Rather than a recast Delgado how about the Beevers Master pre-Deadly Assassin? I would be perfectly happy to see the Beevers Master before he got disfigured in The Two Masters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 18:52:28 GMT
I am really looking forward to this, and the Cybermen are an extra draw. I would hope though, that the amount of returning foes continues to be kept in check throughout the 3DAs. The Third Doctor's television stories rarely featured returnees - as far as I recall, only the Daleks and Ice Warriors made return appearances. I would love for the audios to continue to invent new foes for Old Three-ie to face I suppose the counter-argument to that though is that since the TV 3rd Doctor had so few returnees, BF doing more of those would both be adding to the era AND providing a contrast to the TV episodes. Either/or is acceptable, it wouldn't bother me as I would like to see more 'familiar' elements from that era used in the 3DA's. I might have enjoyed the second story of the last set if it featured a couple of regular UNIT characters like Yates or Benton. My view of the 3DA's is it's not necessary for BF to break new ground with them as such, but to be reminiscent of the era the stories are supposed to represent, which Nick Briggs achieved with his Dalek story The Conquest of Far. So for me, the more returnees the better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 18:58:06 GMT
I wonder if John Levene would feature in any 3DAs? I ask because after his initial distancing from BF, he has subsequently said he would be eager to do more. However, John was extremely close to Jon Pertwee and possibly would find it difficult working with a 'new' Third Doctor. I suspect we'll see.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 19, 2018 19:17:29 GMT
I wonder if John Levene would feature in any 3DAs? I ask because after his initial distancing from BF, he has subsequently said he would be eager to do more. However, John was extremely close to Jon Pertwee and possibly would find it difficult working with a 'new' Third Doctor. I suspect we'll see. I have kind of assumed that is the reason we have yet to hear John Levene take part in any of these. As you say, we will see.
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Post by number13 on Jan 19, 2018 23:18:35 GMT
I wonder if John Levene would feature in any 3DAs? I ask because after his initial distancing from BF, he has subsequently said he would be eager to do more. However, John was extremely close to Jon Pertwee and possibly would find it difficult working with a 'new' Third Doctor. I suspect we'll see. I have kind of assumed that is the reason we have yet to hear John Levene take part in any of these. As you say, we will see. But there is also Richard Franklin and I'd very much hoped he would be in at least the earthbound story of each volume after he appeared in vol 1. In the 3DAs, I wonder if it simply comes down to balancing cost and creative freedom? The number of guest actors BF can afford will have a limit - and going by the volumes to date I would guess that for the 3DAs that's four or five guests per story plus Katy and Tim of course - and every time they ask a regular from the classic era to appear, that's one less guest character the writer can create. I have also wondered if there is a sensitivity in any quarter about recreating classic UNIT, to avoid 'competing' with new TV UNIT? They are different teams and eras so there shouldn't be a problem but that doesn't mean one might not be perceived. Personally I'd love both Richard Franklin and John Levene to appear in every earthbound 3DA - never mind 'UNIT Needs You' - We Need UNIT!
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Post by constonks on Jan 20, 2018 5:15:42 GMT
I wonder if they're hesitant to get Richard Franklin for just one story of the two? I ask because he went to space in Vol 1 rather than just being in the Earth story. Not that I'd be against seeing their trip to Karfel...
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Post by dasmaniac on Jan 28, 2018 23:07:08 GMT
Rather than a recast Delgado how about the Beevers Master pre-Deadly Assassin? I would be perfectly happy to see the Beevers Master before he got disfigured in The Two Masters. There's also the possibility of an incarnation in between the two. Maybe more than one. All we know for certain is that the Beevers Master is the 13th incarnation o the Master's first regenerative cycle.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 29, 2018 0:12:19 GMT
I would be perfectly happy to see the Beevers Master before he got disfigured in The Two Masters. There's also the possibility of an incarnation in between the two. Maybe more than one. All we know for certain is that the Beevers Master is the 13th incarnation o the Master's first regenerative cycle. That’s true, but as long as they have an established Master who can fit into that era, they might as well use him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 0:30:39 GMT
There's also the possibility of an incarnation in between the two. Maybe more than one. All we know for certain is that the Beevers Master is the 13th incarnation o the Master's first regenerative cycle. That’s true, but as long as they have an established Master who can fit into that era, they might as well use him. Katy Manning has stated that she doesn't want to do any new Master stories due to her friendship with Roger Delgado.
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Post by bobod on Jan 29, 2018 0:44:31 GMT
That’s true, but as long as they have an established Master who can fit into that era, they might as well use him. Katy Manning has stated that she doesn't want to do any new Master stories due to her friendship with Roger Delgado. Katy Manning used to state she didn't want to play Jo ever again. Then Katy Manning used to state she didn't want to play Jo with no Jon beside her.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 29, 2018 0:49:19 GMT
Katy Manning has stated that she doesn't want to do any new Master stories due to her friendship with Roger Delgado. Katy Manning used to state she didn't want to play Jo ever again. Then Katy Manning used to state she didn't want to play Jo with no Jon beside her. Bobod speaks the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 0:56:51 GMT
Katy Manning used to state she didn't want to play Jo ever again. Then Katy Manning used to state she didn't want to play Jo with no Jon beside her. Bobod speaks the truth. There was an interview about ten months ago on the podcast with Katy Manning on the subject of a Master recast and Katy Manning firmly declined, stating while she loves working at Big Finish and she appreciates and understand fan intrest, but it's too personal for her and that the circumstances around the Tim Trelor casting only really emerged out of her working with him on another project.
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Post by bobod on Jan 29, 2018 1:29:17 GMT
And, as I say, she's firmly declined things before. She was ADAMANT she'd never ever play Jo again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 1:33:03 GMT
And, as I say, she's firmly declined things before. She was ADAMANT she'd never ever play Jo again. It's in print for any doubters - in The Inside Story. She says she took Iris when offered as it was her way of getting back into the Who world since she then believed she'd never be able to play Jo without Jon.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jan 29, 2018 1:54:29 GMT
There was an interview about ten months ago on the podcast with Katy Manning on the subject of a Master recast and Katy Manning firmly declined, stating while she loves working at Big Finish and she appreciates and understand fan intrest, but it's too personal for her and that the circumstances around the Tim Trelor casting only really emerged out of her working with him on another project. As bobod & David rightly note, she has changed her mind about what she would do in the past. There is no reason not to think she can or will change her mind in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 2:53:56 GMT
There was an interview about ten months ago on the podcast with Katy Manning on the subject of a Master recast and Katy Manning firmly declined, stating while she loves working at Big Finish and she appreciates and understand fan intrest, but it's too personal for her and that the circumstances around the Tim Trelor casting only really emerged out of her working with him on another project. As bobod & David rightly note, she has changed her mind about what she would do in the past. There is no reason not to think she can or will change her mind in the future. Actually, I just checked up on it and she has stated that it's something she's open to, if the right actor comes along. I must have gotten it mixed up with another non-Doctor Who interview. www.bigfinish.com/podcasts/v/the-big-finish-podcast---katy-manning-june-02 (15:57-37:53) However, that being said, I think with these sort of things, we need to respect the actor's wishes.
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