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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 20:26:14 GMT
Wonder which producer Clarkson will deck this time... He made one genuine mistake. Doesn't mean he'll do it again. Well, that one was the "genuine mistake" that done him in with TG but it's not - let's not be silly - the only moronic thing he's done. He's got a list as long as either of our arms of controversies but his PR managed to turn it into "Oh, he's just playing a part...it's banter". He's a right-wing dinosaur but sadly that seems to be quite the popular thing in 2018.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 9, 2018 20:31:53 GMT
Jeremy Clarkson and a revival of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?-what a bizarre combination.
How long till the first ill-judged comment sparks a controversy?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 20:35:54 GMT
He made one genuine mistake. Doesn't mean he'll do it again. Well, that one was the "genuine mistake" that done him in with TG but it's not - let's not be silly - the only moronic thing he's done. He's got a list as long as either of our arms of controversies but his PR managed to turn it into "Oh, he's just playing a part...it's banter". He's a right-wing dinosaur but sadly that seems to be quite the popular thing in 2018. Sadly yes, it seems like we are returning to the Loaded lads mag culture. They should have gone for a female host.
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Post by doomlord on Mar 9, 2018 20:46:39 GMT
Chris Tarrant used to have a hefty cheque paid to him back then too and would probably match Clarkson's pay packet in today's inflation. Tarrant was a top of the TV chain presenter and producer back then. It will be nothing compared to what Clarkson will be being paid. Clarkson is being paid millions by Amazon, and so he will come at a hefty price for ITV. I'd say there's a high chance of an app rather than phone-ins, if there is still a way of entering during the show rather than just using the online application form. Well, as you've admitted yourself, you weren't aware of the original early days of the show. I was and am. Therefore, have a better idea than you about how much clout Tarrant had in TV land before Clarkson was just about to find his feet. I really don't want to repeat myself that Tarrant was one of the highest paid presenters on TV in the 1990s and inflation could and may well match what Clarkson may get but in all honesty, I really couldn't give two hoots if Jezza got more or less as it has zero impact on my life and that a massive paycheck higher than a previous presenter does not gauge the measurement of better presenter. And just because Amazon paid him a lot, doesn't mean that ITV will match it. Yes, there's a high chance of an app but not in replacement of the traditional phone-in. TV programme apps at the moment are favourable with teenagers and young adults but when you're trying to appeal to a wider audience, the traditional way will win over every time. Never the less, if they create an app for the show and you decide to go for it, it will cost you. The money going into the jackpot, keeping the cost of the overall production down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:00:35 GMT
Chris Tarrant used to have a hefty cheque paid to him back then too and would probably match Clarkson's pay packet in today's inflation. Tarrant was a top of the TV chain presenter and producer back then. It will be nothing compared to what Clarkson will be being paid. Clarkson is being paid millions by Amazon, and so he will come at a hefty price for ITV. When he left his radio show in 2005 he was earning £4.2 million for Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? He was rumoured to be earning another £3 million on top for new ITV shows at the time. So we will see how much the horrible Clarkson gets & if it indeed does make what Tarrant got look like "nothing".
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 9, 2018 21:09:32 GMT
He made one genuine mistake. Doesn't mean he'll do it again. Well, that one was the "genuine mistake" that done him in with TG but it's not - let's not be silly - the only moronic thing he's done. He's got a list as long as either of our arms of controversies but his PR managed to turn it into "Oh, he's just playing a part...it's banter". He's a right-wing dinosaur but sadly that seems to be quite the popular thing in 2018. If you believe all the tabloid over-dramatisation, yes. But nothing else he has done has been remotely offensive IMO, and was just tabloids over-exaggerating things. He's never been politically correct, but that's what makes Jeremy Clarkson such an entertaining watch. He's the naughty school kid who couldn't care less what he says. That's what made Clarkson, Hammond and May Top Gear so special, and what will hopefully make Clarkson's version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire a success
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 9, 2018 21:17:40 GMT
Well, that one was the "genuine mistake" that done him in with TG but it's not - let's not be silly - the only moronic thing he's done. He's got a list as long as either of our arms of controversies but his PR managed to turn it into "Oh, he's just playing a part...it's banter". He's a right-wing dinosaur but sadly that seems to be quite the popular thing in 2018. Sadly yes, it seems like we are returning to the Loaded lads mag culture. They should have gone for a female host. Problem is that there are much less female hosts than male ones. The main ones I can think of are: Mel and Sue - Wouldn't suit Who Wants To Be A Millionaire at all, and seem to be largely BBC-exclusive. Sandi Toksvig - Too similar to Chris Tarrant. Tess Daly - Seems to be BBC-only and a bit wooden compared to other presenters. Zoe Ball - Seems to be BBC-only, and tends to be more a presenter of magazine shows than quizzes. Alex Jones - Seems to be BBC-only, and tends to be more a presenter of magazine shows than quizzes. Emma Willis - Could do a good job, although I'm not sure she'd make the show feel any fresher. Davina McCall - She would be fun on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire! Imagine how exciteable she'd get whenever anyone wins a million pound. Caroline Flack - Tends to be more a presenter of spin-off shows. Her primetime ITV debut on The X Factor wasn't exactly a success. Scarlett Moffatt - A fun presenter but better suited to variety shows like Saturday Night Takeaway than a quiz show with a million pound at stake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:29:39 GMT
Well, that one was the "genuine mistake" that done him in with TG but it's not - let's not be silly - the only moronic thing he's done. He's got a list as long as either of our arms of controversies but his PR managed to turn it into "Oh, he's just playing a part...it's banter". He's a right-wing dinosaur but sadly that seems to be quite the popular thing in 2018. If you believe all the tabloid over-dramatisation, yes. But nothing else he has done has been remotely offensive IMO, and was just tabloids over-exaggerating things. He's never been politically correct, but that's what makes Jeremy Clarkson such an entertaining watch. He's the naughty school kid who couldn't care less what he says. That's what made Clarkson, Hammond and May Top Gear so special, and what will hopefully make Clarkson's version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire a success Yep, he's just a naughty school kid.He's a relic, a dinosaur that thinks, & as has been proven he can, get away with anything. Horrible man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:30:16 GMT
Well, that one was the "genuine mistake" that done him in with TG but it's not - let's not be silly - the only moronic thing he's done. He's got a list as long as either of our arms of controversies but his PR managed to turn it into "Oh, he's just playing a part...it's banter". He's a right-wing dinosaur but sadly that seems to be quite the popular thing in 2018. If you believe all the tabloid over-dramatisation, yes. But nothing else he has done has been remotely offensive IMO, and was just tabloids over-exaggerating things. He's never been politically correct, but that's what makes Jeremy Clarkson such an entertaining watch. He's the naughty school kid who couldn't care less what he says. That's what made Clarkson, Hammond and May Top Gear so special, and what will hopefully make Clarkson's version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire a success Tabloid over-dramatisation....Jeez louise. I guess they do those rose tinted specs in your prescription when it comes to "Jezza". "There he is, making fun of gypsies, women drivers and Asians....all a bit of fun though!" I guess racial slurs aren't "remotely offensive" these days. Explains a lot about the UK these days I guess. By the way, for someone who takes offence when anyone with a disability is mocked your Saint Jeremy mocked Gordon Brown for having one eye...I guess that's just "naughty school kid" stuff though.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 9, 2018 21:35:21 GMT
If you believe all the tabloid over-dramatisation, yes. But nothing else he has done has been remotely offensive IMO, and was just tabloids over-exaggerating things. He's never been politically correct, but that's what makes Jeremy Clarkson such an entertaining watch. He's the naughty school kid who couldn't care less what he says. That's what made Clarkson, Hammond and May Top Gear so special, and what will hopefully make Clarkson's version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire a success Tabloid over-dramatisation....Jeez louise. I guess they do those rose tinted specs in your prescription when it comes to "Jezza". "There he is, making fun of gypsies, women drivers and Asians....all a bit of fun though!" I guess racial slurs aren't "remotely offensive" these days. Explains a lot about the UK these days I guess. By the way, for someone who takes offence when anyone with a disability is mocked your Saint Jeremy mocked Gordon Brown for having one eye...I guess that's just "naughty school kid" stuff though. They were all comments taken out of context, especially the racial slur - which came from an unaired outtake which was scrapped precisely because it sounded like Jeremy Clarkson was mumbling the 'N' word. And it was only mumbling too, because as he explained that was the rhyme he was brought up with. As for the 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' thing, he wasn't making fun of the disability - that wasn't the point - he was making fun of Gordon Brown's infamously terrible job as prime minister. Gordon Brown's one eye is just a joke painting a picture, rather than the point behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:37:59 GMT
Tabloid over-dramatisation....Jeez louise. I guess they do those rose tinted specs in your prescription when it comes to "Jezza". "There he is, making fun of gypsies, women drivers and Asians....all a bit of fun though!" I guess racial slurs aren't "remotely offensive" these days. Explains a lot about the UK these days I guess. By the way, for someone who takes offence when anyone with a disability is mocked your Saint Jeremy mocked Gordon Brown for having one eye...I guess that's just "naughty school kid" stuff though. They were all comments taken out of context, especially the racial slur - which came from an unaired outtake which was scrapped precisely because it sounded like Jeremy Clarkson was mumbling the 'N' word. And it was only mumbling too, because as he explained that was the rhyme he was brought up with. As for the 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' thing, he wasn't making fun of the disability - that wasn't the point - he was making fun of Gordon Brown's infamously terrible job as prime minister. Gordon Brown's one eye is just a joke painting a picture, rather than the point behind it. How were they all taken out of context? As for the rhyme, I was brought up with it as well. But I know it is wrong I do not use it, nor even mumble it. Basically though I guess he can do no wrong in your eyes. Good for you I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:39:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:40:28 GMT
So he wasn't mocking him for having one eye...but thought mentioning his disability showed how bad a PM he was. Because the one-eyed thing makes that.....funnier. No - lost me now.
Still, you're obviously happy with supporting the man through thick and thin so good luck.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 9, 2018 21:43:50 GMT
They were all comments taken out of context, especially the racial slur - which came from an unaired outtake which was scrapped precisely because it sounded like Jeremy Clarkson was mumbling the 'N' word. And it was only mumbling too, because as he explained that was the rhyme he was brought up with. As for the 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' thing, he wasn't making fun of the disability - that wasn't the point - he was making fun of Gordon Brown's infamously terrible job as prime minister. Gordon Brown's one eye is just a joke painting a picture, rather than the point behind it. How were they all taken out of context? As for the rhyme, I was brought up with it as well. But I know it is wrong I do not use it, nor even mumble it. Basically though I guess he can do no wrong in your eyes. Good for you I guess. The papers took everything Clarkson said or did on Top Gear out of context. He seemed to become an easy target for them. Good that you don't mumble it, but for some I guess it's probably hard to think which word to substitute it with. I could understand if the clip had aired and he had actually said the word, but it didn't and he didn't. Nobody would have even known about it if it hadn't been for the Mirror.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 9, 2018 21:44:56 GMT
Tabloid over-dramatisation....Jeez louise. I guess they do those rose tinted specs in your prescription when it comes to "Jezza". "There he is, making fun of gypsies, women drivers and Asians....all a bit of fun though!" I guess racial slurs aren't "remotely offensive" these days. Explains a lot about the UK these days I guess. By the way, for someone who takes offence when anyone with a disability is mocked your Saint Jeremy mocked Gordon Brown for having one eye...I guess that's just "naughty school kid" stuff though. They were all comments taken out of context, especially the racial slur - which came from an unaired outtake which was scrapped precisely because it sounded like Jeremy Clarkson was mumbling the 'N' word. And it was only mumbling too, because as he explained that was the rhyme he was brought up with. As for the 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' thing, he wasn't making fun of the disability - that wasn't the point - he was making fun of Gordon Brown's infamously terrible job as prime minister. Gordon Brown's one eye is just a joke painting a picture, rather than the point behind it. He could have, I dunno, just not said the rhyme at all if he's incapable of doing it without the slur. The 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' thing is clearly trying to mock Brown's disability. It doesn't need to be there to call Brown an idiot, the only reason it's there is just to be nasty.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 9, 2018 21:45:09 GMT
Yes. He was talking about the slope of the bridge, not the person of colour walking across it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:49:49 GMT
Yes. He was talking about the slope of the bridge, not the person of colour walking across it. Are you being deliberately naive. He was using it as a double meaning because he is a racist old dinosaur.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:54:17 GMT
How were they all taken out of context? As for the rhyme, I was brought up with it as well. But I know it is wrong I do not use it, nor even mumble it. Basically though I guess he can do no wrong in your eyes. Good for you I guess. The papers took everything Clarkson said or did on Top Gear out of context. He seemed to become an easy target for them. Good that you don't mumble it, but for some I guess it's probably hard to think which word to substitute it with. I could understand if the clip had aired and he had actually said the word, but it didn't and he didn't. Nobody would have even known about it if it hadn't been for the Mirror. That is a lie. They do not take everything Clarkson said or did on Top Gear out of context, it is there on video in the archives to look at if anyone wants to use the context excuse! Oh & it is not hard to think of a word to substitute in that rhyme as there is an alternative non-racist version. But you will defend him to the bitter end I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:59:32 GMT
The papers took everything Clarkson said or did on Top Gear out of context. He seemed to become an easy target for them. Good that you don't mumble it, but for some I guess it's probably hard to think which word to substitute it with. I could understand if the clip had aired and he had actually said the word, but it didn't and he didn't. Nobody would have even known about it if it hadn't been for the Mirror. That is a lie. They do not take everything Clarkson said or did on Top Gear out of context, it is there on video in the archives to look at if anyone wants to use the context excuse! Oh & it is not hard to think of a word to substitute in that rhyme as there is an alternative non-racist version. But you will defend him to the bitter end I guess. I swear to God I hadn't even heard the racist version of the rhyme when the story broke - it was always "catch a tiger by the toe" when I was a kid. Clarkson's got kids - no way does he not know the "tiger" version.
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