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Post by fitzoliverj on Apr 18, 2018 19:31:42 GMT
Hmmm... my local Vue is putting on very few 3D showings, and when I checked the next town along it was the same (whereas the smaller, and less conveniently located cinema in our team, is dividing equally between 2D, 3D and 3D-plus-Dolby-somethingorother). Is 3D now dead?
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Post by omega on Apr 18, 2018 20:18:52 GMT
The fact that very little about the plot has been revealed in the trailers is what excites me Avoid the Lego set descriptions. They contain plot spoilers.
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Post by omega on Apr 18, 2018 20:19:45 GMT
Going to the IMAX 3D screening April 25th.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 19, 2018 11:45:56 GMT
Think Im just gonna do the 3D one on opening Night.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 3:48:09 GMT
The trailers do nothing for me on this one. Like the point of the trailer appears to be "Look at all these characters!" which is the one thing we've known about the movie for years. Nothing about the plot, just generic fighty fight, characters staring off-camera, couple of contextless lines... guess that's just a modern trailer though. I kinda can't see how this movie will be anything other than a big hot mess... Civil War managed to fit however many characters it had, as well as introducing Spider-Man and Black Panther, but even adding one or two more heroes to that movie would have collapsed it. BUT! I'll still watch it pretty much regardless. I've liked most of Marvel's output so far, regardless of their many problems. And, hey, the Black Panther trailer also underwhelmed me but I liked that one!
Eh, it's all about the build up Marvel's been working with for the last ten years. Audiences have been waiting for the Guardians to meet The Avengers for four years at this point, Spider-Man in a fully fledged Avengers blockbuster even longer (despite Pete's recent inclusion in the MCU), the space has been allocated by the audience, Thanos in action, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 3:51:38 GMT
Think Im just gonna do the 3D one on opening Night.
I don't need no gimmicks! 3D does nothing for me
God, I'm a cranky thirty year old.
OH GOD, I'M A THIRTY YEAR OLD.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 3:54:14 GMT
Please, please let there be a lot of Valkiyre/Bruce (platonic buddy) scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 6:42:57 GMT
Tickets booked Thursday afternoon for my cousin & i, we can't wait.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 23, 2018 11:51:41 GMT
Think Im just gonna do the 3D one on opening Night.
I don't need no gimmicks! 3D does nothing for me
God, I'm a cranky thirty year old.
OH GOD, I'M A THIRTY YEAR OLD.
Im 33 lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 12:06:25 GMT
I've got little interest in this, or Deadpool 2, right now. I guess I'm just feeling a bit burnt out. I'll probably wait for the bluray.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Apr 23, 2018 12:23:59 GMT
I don't need no gimmicks! 3D does nothing for me
God, I'm a cranky thirty year old.
OH GOD, I'M A THIRTY YEAR OLD.
Im 33 lol LOLZ.. I am 43 in a couple months
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Apr 23, 2018 12:25:17 GMT
I have been waiting for "this" since easily the mid to late 80's - I started reading comix around '82-'83 .. To me there is no such thing as "superhero fatigue" . If they are done well and respect the source material then it's all good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 13:08:20 GMT
I have been waiting for "this" since easily the mid to late 80's - I started reading comix around '82-'83 .. To me there is no such thing as "superhero fatigue" . If they are done well and respect the source material then it's all good. Russo Brothers directing this so i got little doubt it will be nothing short of epic, me & my cousin can't freaking wait.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 15:51:45 GMT
I have been waiting for "this" since easily the mid to late 80's - I started reading comix around '82-'83 .. To me there is no such thing as "superhero fatigue" . If they are done well and respect the source material then it's all good. There are absolutely loads of long term comic readers on the forum. I've been reading for 25 years myself but that doesn't keep me immune from the fatigue. We have comic book movies pretty much monthly these days, and nearly two hundred episodes of TV shows from Marvel and DC properties a year now that we have shows like Runaways,Gifted, Krypton, Legion, Inhumans, the Netflix shows on top of the Arrowverse shows, Gotham, SHIELD etc and we've got Cloak And Dagger, Titans and New Warriors coming this year. It's hard not to think we're at saturation point on small screen and at the cinema. I mean...Black Panther is still playing and here's a new film with him coming already. I think this could well be the peak with diminishing returns following. There's a risk - and we're not there yet but it's coming I think - that the films become less event-worthy and more episodic, the world's biggest TV show in essence. Marvel via Disney can't keep the run of every single film being profitable (mostly VERY profitable) and excellently reviewed going forever. No studio ever has. DC couldn't go two films in to their universe without a dud and they didn't have their A-listers sold off to other studios like Marvel did. Whatever Kevin Feige earns...he's earning it. To get nearly two dozen films in to a franchise in less than a decade and not hit one roadbump is a hell of an achievement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 22:28:44 GMT
I have been waiting for "this" since easily the mid to late 80's - I started reading comix around '82-'83 .. To me there is no such thing as "superhero fatigue" . If they are done well and respect the source material then it's all good. There are absolutely loads of long term comic readers on the forum. I've been reading for 25 years myself but that doesn't keep me immune from the fatigue. We have comic book movies pretty much monthly these days, and nearly two hundred episodes of TV shows from Marvel and DC properties a year now that we have shows like Runaways,Gifted, Krypton, Legion, Inhumans, the Netflix shows on top of the Arrowverse shows, Gotham, SHIELD etc and we've got Cloak And Dagger, Titans and New Warriors coming this year. It's hard not to think we're at saturation point on small screen and at the cinema. I mean...Black Panther is still playing and here's a new film with him coming already. I think this could well be the peak with diminishing returns following. There's a risk - and we're not there yet but it's coming I think - that the films become less event-worthy and more episodic, the world's biggest TV show in essence. Marvel via Disney can't keep the run of every single film being profitable (mostly VERY profitable) and excellently reviewed going forever. No studio ever has. DC couldn't go two films in to their universe without a dud and they didn't have their A-listers sold off to other studios like Marvel did. Whatever Kevin Feige earns...he's earning it. To get nearly two dozen films in to a franchise in less than a decade and not hit one roadbump is a hell of an achievement. Eh, we're about to enter a new stage for the MCU next year which is going to shake things up and keep things fresh. I think your just excited to reach the end point and letting go and maybe you don't feel particularly connected to Deadpool 2 because of the oncoming merger? You can't blame Marvel for trying to set themselves up as an institution in light of declining comic book sales from BOTH main players companies, though. Both Marvel and DC know that they kind of missed the mark with competing media back in the nineties and relied on the iconic statuts of their characters too long and for Marvel, setting up a sideways universe as a jumping on point for new fans and keeping the main narrative going was a mistake, alienating some of the younger readers they were aiming for who felt they weren't getting the 'real story'. Even with people praising DC's moves, they haven't really connected with new fans, Supergirl's and Super Sons cancellation kind of stands to that, sadly and DC'S New Age of Heroes doesn't really have much of a link up for newcomers and Jim Lee and Dan Dido talking about sales of trades over single issues with newer readers and a large portion of customers preferring trades when discussing Black Label kind of registers that the end of the single issue comic book is nigh. Marvel pushing onwards with the Secret Empire controversy didn't do them any favours, either or the less then transparent Disney wrangling of the X-Office or the toxic fan culture that's kind of emerged with a generation growing up with the internet (he said, talking on the internet). Not to be 'geeks get outside', but a generation growing up with the internet and some not engaging with the world around them has kind of brought down the discourse , as much as it has been raised by a generation growing up with the net. Seeing things through a limited prism of you can't help and it's why your more inclined to complain about characters who don't look like you, etc. That's not to say criticism of titles can't exist, nothing's holy, everything should be up for criticism, but it's defiantly impacted the discourse and reactive internet responses don't help either. And that's not to say internet outrage ain't a thing, either. Add that to fans who just want to rage on things, regardless. Fandom doesn't reliase how close it is to burning down what they love and honestly, I think we've reached escalation point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 0:31:50 GMT
There are absolutely loads of long term comic readers on the forum. I've been reading for 25 years myself but that doesn't keep me immune from the fatigue. We have comic book movies pretty much monthly these days, and nearly two hundred episodes of TV shows from Marvel and DC properties a year now that we have shows like Runaways,Gifted, Krypton, Legion, Inhumans, the Netflix shows on top of the Arrowverse shows, Gotham, SHIELD etc and we've got Cloak And Dagger, Titans and New Warriors coming this year. It's hard not to think we're at saturation point on small screen and at the cinema. I mean...Black Panther is still playing and here's a new film with him coming already. I think this could well be the peak with diminishing returns following. There's a risk - and we're not there yet but it's coming I think - that the films become less event-worthy and more episodic, the world's biggest TV show in essence. Marvel via Disney can't keep the run of every single film being profitable (mostly VERY profitable) and excellently reviewed going forever. No studio ever has. DC couldn't go two films in to their universe without a dud and they didn't have their A-listers sold off to other studios like Marvel did. Whatever Kevin Feige earns...he's earning it. To get nearly two dozen films in to a franchise in less than a decade and not hit one roadbump is a hell of an achievement. Eh, we're about to enter a new stage for the MCU next year which is going to shake things up and keep things fresh. I think your just excited to reach the end point and letting go and maybe you don't feel particularly connected to Deadpool 2 because of the oncoming merger? No, that's not how I feel at all, honestly. It's really the feast after so many years of famine - you can only gorge on so much before feeling full regardless of how hungry you were at the start. As I said, we're in an era with hundreds of hours of this stuff a year now. It can't feel as momentous as when you have to wait longer for it. Sure, Marvel will do some more stuff now with other characters (they have to - Evans and Hemsworth want to leave and Downey is getting on) but is Captain Marvel going to be a seismic shift? I don't see the formula changing unless they have a flop. There's something - perhaps undefinable - that loses my interest when I see Feige or DC tell us their next 10 years of films. Call me old fashioned but I kinda liked when the audiences decided whether you get a hit or not, whether you get a sequel or not, whether you get a franchise or not. I'm a big James Bond fan...I get one every four years or so. If I got one every 3 months with loads of 007 TV shows and Barbara Broccoli telling me what's in the pipeline years in advance, I'd feel the same as I now am with a lot of superhero things - overwhelmed. As for Deadpool, well I didn't love the first one much either. It didn't come even a tenth of the way towards being as bold and brave as I thought it would given the reviews. Cullen Bunn's run on the comics - that's what I'd love to see be on screen. A really meta-takedown of the genre, not just the odd fourth wall break aside tossed in to give the impression of being revolutionary but a narrative deconstruction. Deadpool actually had as run of the mill a plot as any superhero film. It used that to it's advantage once but it doesn't make me need more of it. I know on a forum like this these views won't be popular but I see even people like James Cameron and David Cronenberg expressing similiar views so at least I have some company.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 0:41:17 GMT
Eh, we're about to enter a new stage for the MCU next year which is going to shake things up and keep things fresh. I think your just excited to reach the end point and letting go and maybe you don't feel particularly connected to Deadpool 2 because of the oncoming merger? No, that's not how I feel at all, honestly. It's really the feast after so many years of famine - you can only gorge on so much before feeling full regardless of how hungry you were at the start. As I said, we're in an era with hundreds of hours of this stuff a year now. It can't feel as momentous as when you have to wait longer for it. Sure, Marvel will do some more stuff now with other characters (they have to - Evans and Hemsworth want to leave and Downey is getting on) but is Captain Marvel going to be a seismic shift? I don't see the formula changing unless they have a flop. There's something - perhaps undefinable - that loses my interest when I see Feige or DC tell us their next 10 years of films. Call me old fashioned but I kinda liked when the audiences decided whether you get a hit or not, whether you get a sequel or not, whether you get a franchise or not. I'm a big James Bond fan...I get one every four years or so. If I got one every 3 months with loads of 007 TV shows and Barbara Broccoli telling me what's in the pipeline years in advance, I'd feel the same as I now am with a lot of superhero things - overwhelmed. As for Deadpool, well I didn't love the first one much either. It didn't come even a tenth of the way towards being as bold and brave as I thought it would given the reviews. Cullen Bunn's run on the comics - that's what I'd love to see be on screen. A really meta-takedown of the genre, not just the odd fourth wall break aside tossed in to give the impression of being revolutionary but a narrative deconstruction. Deadpool actually had as run of the mill a plot as any superhero film. It used that to it's advantage once but it doesn't make me need more of it. I know on a forum like this these views won't be popular but I see even people like James Cameron and David Cronenberg expressing similiar views so at least I have some company. I can see what you mean, if though I disagree. I think there's been a wild variety within the MCU and the shows are very distinct. For me, eh, it's hero's journey. I guess, I just want to have these characters to have some sort of legacy when it looks increasingly likely that their source material looks to be fading away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 7:36:54 GMT
Marvel cinematic universe is here to stay for the foreseeable future, Avengers 3 & 4 will take comic book movies to the next level because the Russos are flipping geniuses, DC need someone like Kevin Fiege a backbone to plan out the character arcs, DC failed to set up there characters in solo movies before doing Justice League which is why i think it wasn't well received because barring Superman & Wonder Woman we haven't built up a camaraderie with the other characters.
James Cameron nearly brought Spider-Man to the big screen & David Cronenberg cameoed in Jason X which is basically a comic book horror movie albeit a bad one.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 24, 2018 11:46:47 GMT
I think Marvel Studios would be smart enough to realise whens the best time to end the MCU. At the least its got another 5 years. At the most? who knows
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 14:42:38 GMT
I think Marvel Studios would be smart enough to realise whens the best time to end the MCU. At the least its got another 5 years. At the most? who knows Well the heroes in the comics are still going strong so the MCU may never finish... just reboot with new actors when required, then rinse and repeat. As you say, who knows?
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